DRW wrote:
koitsu wrote:
maybe this upcoming NES developer won't be doing NES development any longer
He isn't a developer, he was looking for one. But if a project leader gets discouraged by my little sarcasm, then he's not a real project leader to begin with and is probably just some kiddy that wants others to do his little game and nothing would have come out of this offer anyway.
If you think the problem is with the sarcasm, you are sadly mistaken (ask anyone who knows me: I'm a sarcastic son of a bitch, and very easily annoyed). The sarcasm isn't what I have a problem with -- it's something else. Something you disclose later on. Something worse.
DRW wrote:
koitsu wrote:
I'd like you to think about how this thread would have turned out had you just replied to the OP with something like this
The thread would have turned out differently, sure.
Good. So my question to you is then: why did you feel approach/mannerism you took was the appropriate way to express your displeasure? Are you unaware of how it discredits you, while simultaneously disheartening others? It does you no justice, and only makes you look bad. Ah, wait, you don't have to answer this -- because you already do here:
DRW wrote:
I could have been friendlier to him, but why should I? If I go to a car repair shop and say: "Hey guys, I've got an idea about some car stuff, but I won't tell you what it is. Come on, anybody wants to work with me?", I deserve being ridiculed.
And here we have it: it's not about sarcasm, it's about ridiculing someone else. You literally just admitted it. I'm not manipulating your words, or taking you out of context. And actually, admitting it is helpful because it means you're self-aware of your behaviour... though that does make me wonder why you thought feigning innocence through sarcasm would work? We're not idiots here, you know.
This is a very sour and awful trait you have. I hope at some point you unlearn it, or if not unlearn it, at least learn when and where to apply it (hint: NOT at a random person who approached showing humility and respect looking for NES developers. Save it for those rare opportunities, like "Okay, I've stayed quiet in this thread so far, but really I feel the need to say something" -- then let loose).
DRW wrote:
Why should I treat lazy people who come here and basically say "Hey, yo, wanna do my game? Write me" with the highest respect?
And why shouldn't you provide some common politeness (the same kind you'd show a stranger on the street -- someone you know nothing about, and who knows nothing about you)? I already gave you an example of how you could have approached the situation and expressed your displeasure, sternly at that, while simultaneously keeping that politeness. Again: "It would really help if you could at least post a synopsis of what your game is about and what it is you're looking for exactly (i.e. what the role of 'NES programmer' encompasses). People will likely be interested, but without any idea of what they could be getting involved with, I think many will avoid it. You can reach out to a bigger audience of potentials if you provide a summary of the game and list of needs/wants. Thanks!"
If you think that simple, commonplace politeness is showing "the highest respect", then I think your view of what "respect" amounts to is highly skewed.
DRW wrote:
It wouldn't have been blown out of proportion if you hadn't made this thread all about me by talking to me directly in every single one of your posts. If you had just answered the original poster, my post would have been forgotten soon.
I have to call bullshit on this as well. You have a track record of doing this. Repeatedly. It's a recurring behaviour, and therefore, your posts are really never "forgotten". Phrased differently: you are VERY difficult to ignore when you keep doing something that results in situations like this (yes, this whole discussion *IS* the result of your words/actions). And don't pull the ignorance card: you know exactly what I'm talking about. It's the same thing rainwarrior is talking about.
Actually, let's be crystal fucking clear here:
You are responsible for your actions and words. If you go about mouthing off publicly, you should damn well expect someone to say something, or something to happen (to you/that affects you) as a result. You
cannot blame others for your actions. A defense of "hey, just ignore me!" is really not a defense at all; it's a rebuttal I'd expect from a snotty-nosed 10 year old who is in dire need of a good ass-whooping.
Simply put, being a stern and "I don't cater to bullshit" type of person is perfectly fine (an old boss of mine described me in such a way that I still think is highly accurate: "he's very... prickly" (like a cactus)). What makes your behaviour awful is:
1. You have an established track record of doing this,
2. The person you responded to approached showing humility and politeness -- yet you ridiculed them (your words not mine),
3. You attempted to justify your actions through feigning sarcasm, followed by a strange "then just ignore me!" defense, while later admitting ridicule as your purpose.
The best I can determine is that you're simply annoyed seeing people show up and ask for NES programmers/developers (particularly without shedding light on what the project is about or what their needs of the developer are). And you know what, that's perfectly an OK thing to be annoyed with, and I doubt anyone here would have a problem with the fact that such annoys you (everybody is different/has different tolerances). If that's the case, then I liken this to Bregalad being annoyed by people showing up for no reason other than to try and make reproduction carts that they put on eBay to make money (i.e. people who know nothing, but want help, so they can try to make a quick buck). I understand his annoyance too, trust me! But you don't see him (at this point) ridiculing people over it, followed by multi-page diatribes with almost bizarre forms of reverse psychology being applied as a defense.
Otherwise, if you're completely inconsolable, and are destined to have the social graces of a gnat, then maybe this isn't the best place for you to be. There's a certain level of baseline respect that should be shown to people. Maybe you're from a different time, but in my day, this was part of what was called good
netiquette. You violate many of these, and therein explains the annoyance of others. And again I remind you: I fully support someone's right to criticise and even offend, but how you're going about it isn't practical.