Has anyone else download this yet? If not then please avoid like the plague. The new rendering engine is horrible. All of the text that was sharp before now has smooth edges. Call me old fashioned if you want, but I preferred the old method. Any other thoughts?
I don't plan on ever using any version of Internet Explorer again. Ever.
commodorejohn wrote:
I don't plan on ever using any version of Internet Explorer again. Ever.
Why not?
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but I preferred the old method.
me too, so I turned it off (options->advanced->multimedia->uncheck "Always use ClearType for HTML")
WedNESday wrote:
commodorejohn wrote:
I don't plan on ever using any version of Internet Explorer again. Ever.
Why not?
It started with the fact that it's grossly insecure and bloated. Even if the security holes are as fixed as they claim in 7, it's still, by the accounts in this thread, just as slow and bloated as ever. And to top it off, Mozilla Firefox is pretty much a work-alike, a billion times more secure, and faster. About the only thing you need IE for is a few stupid sites (I'm lookin' at
you, coursecompass,) which require proprietary plugins which aren't provided for Firefox.
One of the other issues is its horrible support for HTML and CSS standards - design a website to render correctly in Firefox, Opera, and Safari, and it'll likely be mangled in IE.
Quietust wrote:
One of the other issues is its horrible support for HTML and CSS standards - design a website to render correctly in Firefox, Opera, and Safari, and it'll likely be mangled in IE.
ugh, this is the main reason I won't use IE anymore. I don't even check anything I make in IE at all now. If my site was up right now, I'd have you take a look at the difference in the two browsers, with the proper CSS and all. It seems that all Microsoft cares about is making anything they think of as a standard, even if it hasn't been approved/initiated by the W3C yet. I find it hard to believe that M$ can't get their browsers to render properly, yet almost EVERY OTHER browser out their can. Hell, I'd rather use Off-By-One before IE, and I'm no fan of that program either.
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It seems that all Microsoft cares about is making anything they think of as a standard, even if it hasn't been approved/initiated by the W3C yet.
So true !
What is so fun is that Microsoft's site seem to be 100% compatible with the W3C HTML and CSS standards, while any site made with Microsoft Front Page has at least 1000 errors. Isn't that funny ?
I guess they don't "eat their own dogfood." It means they had someone competent do their page.
I don't kick IE... No clue, but there are a few sites, mainly some Java-based, that only runs on IE, giving an odd error on Firefox. Maybe my PC, maybe my dog making noise, I don't know... -_-;;
Does the sites you mentionned show respect of
W3C's norms ?
I use Firefox pretty much exclusively. I have Opera installed since they had a free version, but never use it either.
Unless I run into one of those odd sites that has all the text jumbled up and overlapping unless you view it with IE.. that's pretty annoying. Haven't even tried IE7 yet.
I've been using Firefox for about a year now, but recently installed IE7. Typical Microsoft -- once competition shows up, either buy them out, or copy them wholesale. IE7 pretty much has all of Firefox's features at this point, minus all the customizability yaya.
Oddly enough, soon after i installed IE7, Firefox began crashing quite frequently... Hmm...
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I don't kick IE... No clue, but there are a few sites, mainly some Java-based, that only runs on IE, giving an odd error on Firefox.
Just reword it in terms of emulators it becomes obvious why this doesn't let IE off the hook:
"I don't kick Nesticle... No clue, but there are a few homebrew games, mainly some older ones, that only runs on Nesticle, giving an odd error on Nintendulator."
Translation: many sites only work in IE because they are broken in a way that matches how IE is broken.
*takes a shower*
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Translation: many sites only work in IE because they are broken in a way that matches how IE is broken.
That's because IE doesn't clear the VBlank flag, and Firefox does. >_<
Fx3 wrote:
That's because IE doesn't clear the VBlank flag, and Firefox does. >_<
Sorry run that by me again? VBlank flag?
WedNESday wrote:
Fx3 wrote:
That's because IE doesn't clear the VBlank flag, and Firefox does. >_<
Sorry run that by me again? VBlank flag?
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WedNESday wrote:
Fx3 wrote:
That's because IE doesn't clear the VBlank flag, and Firefox does. >_<
Sorry run that by me again? VBlank flag?
Netscape 4 was the iNES of web standards, and IE was the Nesticle. Firefox is the FCE Ultra, and Firefox with Web Developer extensions is the FCE Ultra XD. The
Acid2 test makes your browser say Blargg.
Uhh... it fails here with Firefox.
With IE, it's total crap.
tepples wrote:
The
Acid2 test makes your browser say Blargg.
Bad example - the Acid2 test doesn't work yet even in Firefox 2.0, though, to be fair, it looks a
lot better than it does in IE. Opera is the only browser I know of (which runs under Windows) that passes it.
Fx3 wrote:
Uhh... it fails here with Firefox.
Likewise, Blargg's more complicated tests fail on the most recent official FCEU. That's why I said FCEU and not Nintendulator.
tepples wrote:
Fx3 wrote:
Uhh... it fails here with Firefox.
Likewise, Blargg's more complicated tests fail on the most recent official FCEU. That's why I said FCEU and not Nintendulator.
For the record, Nintendulator doesn't pass them either. Quite a few of them are
extremely convoluted tests which would require completely rewriting large chunks of my emulator in order to pass properly.
I only use IE to use "Windows Update" site other than that I always use Firefox. I also find it ridiculously shitty that in order to install IE7 you have to go through the windows genuine advantage bullshit and disable the always use clear type thing or IE7 will make you go blind. Whoever designed it must have had there head and/or heads firmly planted in there ass.
Those analogies between emulators and browsers are very fun.
But what would be the 'real' browser as opposed to the real NES ? W3C haven't released a device that can download pages that only are 100% W3C compatible and that would output an AV signal on a TV.
Major edit for conciseness:
Amaya = acNES (no offense)
Opera = Nestopia (If what I hear is correct, then Nestopia actually does better on blargg's test ROMs than Nintendulator. Note that I've run most of blargg's test ROMs on Nestopia but almost none on Nintendulator.)
There is no satisfactory answer to Bregalad's last question.