Hi yall. Heres something I wonder if someone can assist me with, or point me in the right direction about: I just bought this portable DVD player - WINTAL PDVD636, and it includes a disc that has 150 nintendo roms on it. Thats the main reason I bought the thing, because it plays NES games! Naively I thought I could burn NES roms onto a disc and put it into the unit and play those roms. Turns out the disc that came with the dvd unit, which is explorable by PC cdrom drive, has all these roms saved in a folder, and the roms are listed as Gxxx.bin files. So, does anyone out here have a line on how a bloke like me could get a NES rom and put it on a disc that this WINTAL dvd unit can read and play? I gots to get me (and wife) playin these old school games! I there a way to convert .nes files to .bin files? Does anyone know anything about what Im talking about?? Thanks
I'm not familiar with that DVD player. But chances are those BIN files are actually iNES ROM files renamed. Open the BIN files with a hex editor and check them out.
Look at it in hex editor? Can you recommend a good one? Also once I see it in a hex editor, then what might I do, any suggestion?
Thanks
HXD is a decent hex editor.
You want to look at the first 16 bytes. If the first three bytes (look at the right side) say "NES", then the fourth byte is 1A, it's a NES file. Compare to another NES rom.
And these DVD players are known for having spotty quality emulation. Right now, the Wii has much better emulators available.
I'm impartial to
http://www.handshake.de/user/chmaas/delphi/download/xvi32.zip. It's a good hex editor. Not awesome, but it doesn't require installation. Just unzip the exe, and load up the file.
If you're thinking about running homebrew on the emulator built into an off-brand DVD player, the accuracy might leave something to be desired. The last time we heard about a DVD player playing NES games, it was in a
discussion about an ebook reader. The player turned out to be incompatible with a few techniques used to fit a screenful of text into RAM.
Another thing that might make it easier: Exactly how many bytes in size are the ROM files for older games like Balloon Fight, Mario Bros., and Super Mario Bros.?
I think the approach taken in the ebook reader thread was misguided, should have just tried Sprite 0 Hit to begin with, not mess with DMC IRQ stuff.
Hmmm, okay. I got the HXD program, opened it up, loaded up balloon fight, which is not called balllon fight as the file name on the cd, instead its called: G026.BIN. Now, are the first 16 bytes displayed as the first line in the opened file in HXD? (The very first line reads -
Offset (h) 00 01 02 03 etc...) The line directly beneath I guess is the first line , it starts with 00000000 then 3C 08 40 etc... and at the very right is closely spaced symbols and dots, <.@.%.i...... so on. But I do not see NES anywhere or 1A. Balloon fight is 96.0 KB, Super Mario is also 96.0 KB, and unfortunately the disc does NOT have mario bros (1) - too bad.
But it does have Goonies 2... sweet... Also, Mega Man is called Rockman, which I believe is the Japanese name of that game.
Thanks
Yeah so it looks like the .NES rom is quite a bit smaller in size than the equivalent game file .BIN on the cd disc. I take it then that the manufacturers of this aforementioned device didnt want eager beavers to put together their own playable game discs. Poop. But still theres got to be a way to do it, these guys couldnt have made it so amazingly hack proof that sufficient elbow grease cant get at it, I will research...
Well, you gotta find out how these BIN files are put together. The best thing you can do is compare the file of a common game with it's .NES counterpart and see what is different. Maybe the original ROM isn't even visible, maybe it's encrypted or something, in which case it will be much harder to reverse engineer.
Transferring pirated games around here is not allowed, otherwise I would tell you to post one of the binary files so that other people here could take a look at it.
did u try just burning some nes ROM's and seeing if the player will load um?
what do the directions say? generally devices that include pirated copy's of old games along with emulator functions don't try to stop you from playing whatever.
Thanks for the info thus far. I wanted to say that in 1985 my parents got me the Nintendo entertainment system with light gun, mario/duck hunt. I was 10. I still remember the price of that was 262 CDN, which would now be like, a thousand bucks. Ive had 4 NES systems before, I was buying games as a teenager at 50 - 60 dollars each, I still have about 35 carts. Thats some major money, but Im not trying to legitimize piracy in stating this, just trying to express to you all that I have in fact made a relatively significant contribution to the developmental causes of Nintendo throughout the years. (not to mention 3 gameboys, 2 SNES, a DS, and dozens of games for those, and I still might buy a Wii) Imagine spending 175 - 200 on a game right now, with the graphics and sound and so on of say... Lode Runner? I still remember shelling out 110 for Street Fighter 2 turbo for SNES in 1991... Holy crow, now I wish I saved all that for a house! Just kidding. Anyway thats my waffle on down memory (card) lane. That still doesnt mean I condone piracy, but I do admit it occupies somewhat of a gray area on my moral compass. I do respect the rationale of restraint when it comes to issues of piracy. Im gonna follow your guys advice and analyze the contents of these files in Hex editor, burn a CD and so forth, and report the results. The crux of the thing I guess is that I hate playing console games on PCs, and Im reluctant to buy a Wii for the purpose of playing these old school titles, and this cheap little device seems almost perfect for me in this case, if I can get some other games to play on it. Of course even if I cant, the thing is still cool enough for under a hundred buckaroos!
There are cards for your DS to let you play GBA-based and DS-based NES emulators. And because PocketNES for GBA and nesDS for DS are maintained by someone who cares about emulation, they are probably compatible with more games and fewer glitches than a DVD player will ever be.
For 135$ USD you can buy the NES PowerPAK where you can play your ROM images on a real NES console. It beats any emulator.
http://www.retrousb.com/product_info.ph ... ucts_id=34
Also there are NES emulators for the PS1, DreamCast, and PS2 if you are interested in playing on a TV rather than a PC. The PS1 emulator was quite good from what I remember. It was called IMBNES (ItMightBeNES). You can play it on any PS1 with a simple swap trick. DreamCast you just burn a CD. PS2 is more complicated to run homebrew apps on.
MottZilla wrote:
For 135$ USD you can buy the NES PowerPAK where you can play your ROM images on a real NES console. It beats any emulator.
http://www.retrousb.com/product_info.ph ... ucts_id=34
- Surely, if I would live in USA...
The shipping costs are really low, at least I think so.
Also, my (SNES) PowerPak got through customs without any problems or charged import duty.
I'd really like as SNES PowerPak, but can't afford the taxes.
I live in Brazil like Fx3 and had to pay the outrageous tax of 60% of the value of my NES PowerPak, and of course I wasn't happy at all. I don't expect to buy anything else from RetroZone because of this. Most sellers I dealt with saw no problem in declaring lower values for their products in hopes that they wouldn't be caught by customs (after all it's their product and they can sell for as much as they'd like... who can say the number in the paper isn't the true price?), but bunnyboy said he wouldn't do this. So yeah, for some people getting a PowerPak is quite a bit more expensive than for others.
Hey Fx3, are you watching The Lost Canvas? I just came back home from a concert where Hironobu Kegeyama performed, if you like Saint Seiya you may know him... =)
Did bunnyboy also rule out having the product manufactured in Brazil? Apparently, products manufactured in Brazil don't have to pay the import duty, only VAT and IPI.
You could also ask someone in a country that doesn't have those taxes to buy it for you and then send it to you valuing it at 5$ or something. Just because Bunnyboy won't do it doesn't mean you can't find someone else who will be a middle man for you.
Hey people. Looks like the game gods and goddesses chose to smile down upon me, maybe after I reminded them what a devoted follower Ive been, lol. I CAN download .NES files and play them on this little contraption Ive been talking about! I cannot as yet use the CD drive with a CD or DVD to play .NES roms, but, I can save the .NES roms onto a USB stick or SD card, and have the dvd player load them right from that... And the emulation seems pretty good so far. I think from what I have gathered, the cd-drive unit itself is a no go as far as individual files are concerned, because I think and it stands to reason that the hardware is seaching for a file structure matching that of you know - DVD, CD, VCD... which has a certain architecture/standard. Of course as most of you probably know a typical dvd player is not like a PC where you can explore through individual files of any extension, and view them up on a screen. Anyway, it does work with USB/SD, which I am more than fine with. Thanks for all your assistance and suggestions. ALso some people on here might be interested in a little doo-dad I found on EBay, and even with worldwide shipping charges this thing is like 50 bucks.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-4-4GB-PMP-Game-Vi ... 3ca7c2e4d4
try makeing a dvd with the filesystem ISO09660 + UDF, data type MODE1/2048 and UDF revision 1.02 with NES games on it and see if that would work, these setting should make any dvd player able to read your disk