http://www.unseen64.net/2012/02/1...

I wrote this sometime ago being a big a fan of the game.

Oh what I would do or give if someone dumped this online.
One can only dream....so many differences from the looks of it....

OK, I agree with you that it would be really awesome to see a proto of this surface, but why would a person be a jerk for owning it?

If they haven't dumped it, I think thats wrong. The differences on this beta are vast and I think people should enjoy it. Also let us not forget about the dreadful "bitrot" that is inevitable.

I suppose I came off rather crass, I apologize.

The story of Cop Slapper comes to mind... *shakes fist

For those that don't know, Cop Slapper is an unreleased Color Dreams game that was recently found, but the guy basically wants to keep it to himself and not let any of it see the light of day for anyone else.

I understand your frustration OP!

It would be great to get a chance to check some of these out, and hopefully at some point the owners will do a release that allows them to recoup their investment as well as share more games with the world.

Well if it still exists, it has to be a Famicom prototype. I know this for a fact due to its eventual Japanese release followed by the worldwide release. I hope to God it surfaces in my life time. I really do.
I posted this here on Nintendo age to raise awareness. I hope this doesn't go in vein. Please big whig collectors, seek this out. For the love of Argus!!!

Did you particiapte in the recent auctiosn on Ebay for source code material for some of the color dreams games?
It was about two or three months ago.

Do you have a link?

The last I've heard of Cop Slapper was when Dutch pretended to have a copy back in 2009 on DP. It was a scam of course, and he was ultimately banned from there and every other game site on the planet.

I would love to hear more about Cop Slapper, but don't want to egg my hopes up.  What a great game that would have been.

I'd like to know more about Cop Slapper too. I'd like to think that if some copy/copies of that exist somewhere perhaps Color Dreams (aka: Wisdom Tree) may still have it. Perhaps with the agreement Piko Interactive has something of it if it exists could be brought to daylight still.

Somehow hearing "Cop Slapper" and "Color Dreams" in the same sentence for the first time doesn't surprise me, LMAO!

As for you, Velheim, it could have easily been destroyed, re-used, etc., or whatever. I wouldn't get your hopes up more than they already are, and being angry about it doesn't help the situation at all.

Again, I apologize if I came off angry. If that is how I'm coming off, I will gladly re-edit that sub-title. The last thing I would want to do is throw people off around here when I've just joined. I truly apologize.

As I've said previously, I posted this to raise awareness of its existence.

I have attached a screenshot I found in a famicom magazine for further clarification.

I've always hoped this would be found one day. This and the alternate version of *Edit: Nightmare on Elm St.* Ops!
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No offense bro, but the grammar on that piece is not particularly good. If you were paid for that, I am seriously jealous, as I would love to have a job such as writing about old games. Ah well, majoring in English gives me more heartbreak than anything, I guess.

In regards to prototypes being out there, every game had a prototype made at some point. Every game! So just scanning photos from old game adverts really doesn't say too much, tbh.

Also, I am curious about Cop Slapper too. I never heard anything about an actual proto of that being found, and tbh, I don't think the game ever even made it that far for a proto to exist!

Am I missing something? Those pictures look just like the NES released version.

Take a closer look, Greg. Some of those screenshots appear nowhere else in the game.
Why would the Death Pigor be fought on the first floor of the tower of Garba? Where in Lapis do such platforms exist? Why does the Hermit's room have no exit door?

Where in the first level do such trees with branches exist?
Where in Garloz is there an inaccessible shrine?

At the top of the Gran Mountain, no such platforms exist for rope climbing and the tree pole from which you fire your cross-bow from is on the bottom platform next to the hermit's door. Not the top.

These are questions that for years have raised no answers.

I am still upset that the famicom Monster Party won't see the light of day closest. I.seen was a rom hack of.the.released version.

It could exist, or perhaps those are just mockups used for promotion. Or perhaps the build that is represented was overwritten or destroyed. However, all it takes is one person to put it up for sale one day. The Famicom version of Monster Party was long assumed to be the stuff of legend, but out of the blue, around 20 years after it was made, a prototype of said version shows up for sale. And, given the somewhat professional appearance of the cart, there could very well be even more copies of said game out there waiting to be sold in the coming years. Not every proto owner posts on game forums, and some are not even gamers, or at least don't realize the value of some old cart with a shoddy label that they found at a flea market or was given to them by a friend. Not everyone is intentionally hoarding games, and even if they are, they don't have a duty to share anything.

Prototypes for old games show up for sale very regularly, even obscure ones, popular ones, or ones that differ notably from the final release, so just keep looking and who knows, somebody might toss one up for sale.

The real question is, are you willing to spend the couple hundred that it could fetch at auction?

I was also surprised when the Monster Party proto surfaced, but I was extra surprised at what it sold for. I didn't realize there were those kinds of fans out there for that game, haha! (I think it sold for around ~$4,000? I could be way off here, but it was quite a large amount.)

Also I had a crazy idea:

What if those interested on NA chipped into a fund SHOULD a proto like that be found, and that money would be soley used to purchase, and then release games like that. Wouldn't have to worry about it going for $X,XXX, and then never seeing the light of day.

Eh, I'd still outbid 'em

edit:  that was a joke btw

That's nightmare on elm street and there is that version on the Commodore 64

Yeah, that build of the game is rather popular. The buyer was some big Famicom collector (famicomcafe) who I believe has bought some other big, not-released Famicom games. I THINK he dumped it for himself, then later resold it. I do not know what it sold for after that, but  I think I once found the remnants of that listing. The cart has a "more than one might exist" look given the printed label and white casing, but who knows. 

Well, in my search for photos of Famicom protos, I found a photograph of an Argus no Senshi prototype. Dunno if it is the build you are curious about or not.

If you don't know, this is the style of PCB that is generally housed in an FDS RAM adapter shell, but clearly this one has been removed from said case.

Wow, cool find! Any idea who the owner is?

Is it just me, or when I click on the picture it just shows that no picture is linked [X] ?

Some Japanese collector I'd imagine.

Let me know if the image works. It is tiny as heck and I don't think the enlarged version is any larger than the thumbnail.

I don't see anything but you've got me intrigued.