Originally posted by: AirVillain
Originally posted by: 14u2ponder
Originally posted by: AirVillain
Remember back in the day when WE used to be the sniping tool???
I would just remember when an auction I was watching would be ending and be on my computer for that time.
I wouldn't bother with what has to be hell trying to outbid bots (even possible???) and millions of dorks like us trying to bid on ebay now. BIN BAYBEEEEEEE.
You can outbid a bot easy, just make your bid what you are willing to pay rather than making it "just enough to nudge over the current high bid" You are still not full-proof here, but if you wait to bid till the last 5 seconds and then make a healthy bid on something, the bot would have to be set to bid OVER your high bid, which it doesn't know what that is.
Yo guy... that's not beating a bot, that's paying my maximum price.
I want to get it for as LOW as possible.
If I'm going to pay my max price, why bother with the auction? I'll just BIN. Which, as alluded to, is my preffered method now because it's just much easier and I don't have to bother watching auctions.
Back in the day when there was much more available it was worth it to watch auctions, and FUN, but not so much anymore.
You actually don't pay the maxium.
Example: say you are looking at an auction that is currently sitting at $9.87 with 2 bidders for Kid Dracula loose cart (mint condition). There is 1:36 seconds till the gavel. You want to beat the bots and whoever else is willing to bid. SO:
you judge that you'd be willing to pay $88.65 for the cart. You feel if you can get it UNDER $90 then you got a bargain. With this number in mind, you decide to put a final bid of $90 on the cart and cross your fingers.
At 5 seconds left to go, you unleash your bid: $90. At the same time, the bots and other humans who are trying to get it release their bids, and here's where ebay makes it FAIR and why the bots aren't better than anybody else bidding.
Ebay's bot system is sorting through all of these bids at a lightnighing pace. It does 3 things.
First it looks to see what the current high bidder's maximum bid is. When the high bidder put in his bid, he had the option of putting a number that HE was willing to buy the game for. So for example, let's say that the current high bidder put in a $50 bid, and so he outbid the person who was the previous high bidder's mark, and was sitting at $9.87 as his CURRENT high bid. Remember, that when HE placed the bid, he did not BID $9.87, he bid $50. So in order to beat his bid you need to go over that amount.
So now comes the more complicated part. At the end of an auction, everybody is putting in last minute bids and say you do the same. Say you bid $10, and then look to see you have been outbid to $10.50. The important part here is that the person who bid $10.50 did not have to do anything. Ebay's bot saw that he has a bid of $50, so ebay took your bid, and increased the high bid accordingly. This concept is important. Because let's go back to your $90 maximum bid. If you bid $90 at the end of the auction and no one else bid anything, then you WIN that auction and your final bid would not be $90, it would be $50.50, or just over the maximum bid that came in or was already in.
So see, the bots don't have an advantage on you other than the fact they are willing to bid more than you.