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pricecharting sniper tool - is that what y'all do

Jun 23 at 4:55:19 PM
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I've been trying to get an edge with finding games and buying them on ebay, I was told about this pricecharting sniper tool. So I pulled it up and I started watching. Then something comes on the screen, it's a couple of gba boxes that are listed below market value by the time I clicked on it it had already had 8 views and within 5 minutes it was bought, lol.

My question is this? Is that what people do, sit by there computer all day long waiting for discounts and trying to buy this stuff? Good grief. The other week I got lucky as I searched for a listing that had just put something up and while I didn't buy it, I saw it LIVE before it was bought around 10 minutes later. 

I want deals, but this seems pretty taxing to sit at your computer all day waiting for 10 to 20 dollar savings. I mean there have been some good deals I've seen that I've missed because i can't sit there all day looking at a screen. What am I missing?

Jun 23 at 4:58:05 PM
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Apparently people have auction sniping tools. It is 2019, so I would assume even more tools are available that I don't know about as I don't use any auction tools other than saved searches.

You want discounts? Buy larger quantities from people on NA and locally and they might give you a discount.  

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Jun 23 at 5:00:51 PM
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Yeah...eBay has sniping tools. It's been going on for years and eBay doesn't do shit about it. I've been sniped on quite a few things...that's why I don't bother with auctions anymore...fuck that noise.

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Jun 23 at 5:01:19 PM
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Originally posted by: Mega Tank

Apparently people have auction sniping tools. It is 2019, so I would assume even more tools are available that I don't know about as I don't use any auction tools other than saved searches.

You want discounts? Buy larger quantities from people on NA and locally and they might give you a discount.  
I'm working on my saved search list, but yeah people have tools other than auction sniping. Just for SNG go to an item that you are searching for and use advance to check the sold listings. Some of the deals that you might see will make you cry. But those deals were made sometimes minutes from when the item was BIN listed.

 

Jun 23 at 5:03:52 PM
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Originally posted by: Astor Reinhardt

Yeah...eBay has sniping tools. It's been going on for years and eBay doesn't do shit about it. I've been sniped on quite a few things...that's why I don't bother with auctions anymore...fuck that noise.
The auction sniping doesn't bother me as much because if I want to bid 200 at the end of an aution on an item that the current bid is less than $10, then I'm most likely going to win that auction with a bid no higher than the last highest bid from mine. But the BIN sniping is much worse, believe me.

 


Edited: 06/23/2019 at 05:05 PM by 14u2ponder

Jun 23 at 5:05:27 PM
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Originally posted by: 14u2ponder
But those deals were made sometimes minutes from when the item was BIN listed.

 

Bots.
 

Jun 23 at 5:08:16 PM
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Originally posted by: Tulpa
 
Originally posted by: 14u2ponder
But those deals were made sometimes minutes from when the item was BIN listed.

 

Bots.
 
where can i get me a bot, lol

 


Edited: 06/23/2019 at 05:08 PM by 14u2ponder

Jun 23 at 5:11:38 PM
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There are billions of people on this planet. I'd guess that there are thousands of people manually searching Good BINs every minuite of the day.

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Jun 23 at 5:14:08 PM
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Well, this tool exists. And you were looking into using it. And you saw that other people are using it. You can't be surprised about it.

I would imagine that people grabbing something in the first few minutes just buy anything that appears under the average, not looking for anything specific.

Jun 23 at 5:15:47 PM
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Originally posted by: acomicbookguyc

There are billions of people on this planet. I'd guess that there are thousands of people manually searching Good BINs every minuite of the day.
For some, sure, but it doesn't explain the instances where people have reported items bought the second it's listed. Before a page view had generated (and well before it hits public view.) There are definitely bots being used.

 

Jun 23 at 5:23:06 PM
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Originally posted by: 14u2ponder
 
Originally posted by: Tulpa
 
Originally posted by: 14u2ponder
But those deals were made sometimes minutes from when the item was BIN listed.

 

Bots.
 
where can i get me a bot, lol

 
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Jun 23 at 6:27:12 PM
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Originally posted by: Tulpa

Originally posted by: acomicbookguyc

There are billions of people on this planet. I'd guess that there are thousands of people manually searching Good BINs every minuite of the day.
For some, sure, but it doesn't explain the instances where people have reported items bought the second it's listed. Before a page view had generated (and well before it hits public view.) There are definitely bots being used.

 





I buy within seconds of items being listed quite frequently, especially if I'm "following" a person that is currently listing items. I do believe bots exist for cheap, common games (Mario Kart 64 cart listed for $20) but it's all manual on anything that's seriously undervalued.

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Jun 23 at 7:02:07 PM
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Originally posted by: Maertens29
 
Originally posted by: Tulpa
 
Originally posted by: acomicbookguyc

There are billions of people on this planet. I'd guess that there are thousands of people manually searching Good BINs every minuite of the day.
For some, sure, but it doesn't explain the instances where people have reported items bought the second it's listed. Before a page view had generated (and well before it hits public view.) There are definitely bots being used.

 



I buy within seconds of items being listed quite frequently, especially if I'm "following" a person that is currently listing items. I do believe bots exist for cheap, common games (Mario Kart 64 cart listed for $20) but it's all manual on anything that's seriously undervalued.
Like I said, I don't doubt that it happens, but even people here have reported stuff selling faster than humanly possible. Like, they hit list and PayPal immediately reports money received. Those are definitely bots.

 


Edited: 06/23/2019 at 07:02 PM by Tulpa

Jun 23 at 7:23:07 PM
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I've read speculation that some folks have access to the ebay API, and can get access to listings seconds before a person could actually get the page to load. And depending on which server a lister is using (continent, or side of the USA), there can be a half minute or minute delay before people accessing different ebay servers are able to see it. There are definitely people with complex search strings sniping listings automatically the second they list. I'd only question what they do when they accidentally get a false positive and accidentally auto-pay $100 for an "earthbound box that is complete" instead of a "complete in box earthbound."

If you have indeed had a listing sniped the second you listed it, can you share the name of the buyers here? I'm not asking for personal info, but just whether it's an obviously automated random account name used for sniping, or if it's a big seller on ebay like Pedro or JJ Games.

Jun 23 at 7:31:53 PM
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Also, it's more or less known that there are sellers using other software systems on places like ebay. I've unknowingly bought from them a few times. Basically what they do, is they have software tracking a series of generic brand new items and what they sell for somewhere like Amazon. Then they calculate what their profit margin would be after fees, and undercut that seller on ebay a certain amount. When someone buys their ebay listing, they just have that Amazon seller ship to the buyer. On the ebay seller's end, there's zero human involvement.

They're basically flipping other peoples' items, but they're operating on smaller margins than a human would find worth their time, and do it in volume.

Jun 24 at 12:11:21 AM
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Long search strings and a second monitor while browsing newly listed and BIN's. Sniping tool for auction only items always, unless the ending date lines up to a time that I'm already free and home.

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Jun 24 at 1:17:30 AM
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Originally posted by: BalloonFight

Long search strings and a second monitor while browsing newly listed and BIN's. Sniping tool for auction only items always, unless the ending date lines up to a time that I'm already free and home.

Which sniping tool do u use?
 

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Jun 24 at 1:37:58 AM
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Originally posted by: VelvetElf
 
Originally posted by: BalloonFight

Long search strings and a second monitor while browsing newly listed and BIN's. Sniping tool for auction only items always, unless the ending date lines up to a time that I'm already free and home.

Which sniping tool do u use?
 

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Jun 24 at 8:56:50 AM
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Remember back in the day when WE used to be the sniping tool???

I would just remember when an auction I was watching would be ending and be on my computer for that time.

I wouldn't bother with what has to be hell trying to outbid bots (even possible???) and millions of dorks like us trying to bid on ebay now. BIN BAYBEEEEEEE.

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Jun 24 at 9:29:24 AM
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Originally posted by: AirVillain

Remember back in the day when WE used to be the sniping tool???

I would just remember when an auction I was watching would be ending and be on my computer for that time.

I wouldn't bother with what has to be hell trying to outbid bots (even possible???) and millions of dorks like us trying to bid on ebay now. BIN BAYBEEEEEEE.

You can outbid a bot easy, just make your bid what you are willing to pay rather than making it "just enough to nudge over the current high bid" You are still not full-proof here, but if you wait to bid till the last 5 seconds and then make a healthy bid on something, the bot would have to be set to bid OVER your high bid, which it doesn't know what that is. 
 

Jun 24 at 10:19:11 AM
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Originally posted by: 14u2ponder
 
Originally posted by: AirVillain

Remember back in the day when WE used to be the sniping tool???

I would just remember when an auction I was watching would be ending and be on my computer for that time.

I wouldn't bother with what has to be hell trying to outbid bots (even possible???) and millions of dorks like us trying to bid on ebay now. BIN BAYBEEEEEEE.

You can outbid a bot easy, just make your bid what you are willing to pay rather than making it "just enough to nudge over the current high bid" You are still not full-proof here, but if you wait to bid till the last 5 seconds and then make a healthy bid on something, the bot would have to be set to bid OVER your high bid, which it doesn't know what that is. 
 

Yo guy... that's not beating a bot, that's paying my maximum price. 

I want to get it for as LOW as possible.

If I'm going to pay my max price, why bother with the auction? I'll just BIN. Which, as alluded to, is my preffered method now because it's just much easier and I don't have to bother watching auctions. 

Back in the day when there was much more available it was worth it to watch auctions, and FUN, but not so much anymore. 

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Jun 24 at 10:46:14 AM
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Originally posted by: AirVillain
 
Originally posted by: 14u2ponder
 
Originally posted by: AirVillain

Remember back in the day when WE used to be the sniping tool???

I would just remember when an auction I was watching would be ending and be on my computer for that time.

I wouldn't bother with what has to be hell trying to outbid bots (even possible???) and millions of dorks like us trying to bid on ebay now. BIN BAYBEEEEEEE.

You can outbid a bot easy, just make your bid what you are willing to pay rather than making it "just enough to nudge over the current high bid" You are still not full-proof here, but if you wait to bid till the last 5 seconds and then make a healthy bid on something, the bot would have to be set to bid OVER your high bid, which it doesn't know what that is. 
 

Yo guy... that's not beating a bot, that's paying my maximum price. 

I want to get it for as LOW as possible.

If I'm going to pay my max price, why bother with the auction? I'll just BIN. Which, as alluded to, is my preffered method now because it's just much easier and I don't have to bother watching auctions. 

Back in the day when there was much more available it was worth it to watch auctions, and FUN, but not so much anymore. 

I guess with this, two people the highest amount they are ok with paying, then it goes to whoever was going to pay the highest. Just put the most your willing to pay at the latest time you can then, but if someone else put a higher maximum bid you're going to lose.

So either you will get it for just over what the other person put as their highest amount they would pay, or you dont get and dont sweat it because it went for more than you wanted.

For example, if you put a maximum price of $200, it does not mean your going to pay $200. If you put $200 and someone else puts say, $120, then you will get it for $121.

I know ebay used to be you put a maximum bid and thats what it would jump to (regardless of what others put), but doesnt really work like that now (or for a while)
 

Jun 24 at 10:47:32 AM
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Originally posted by: AirVillain
 
Originally posted by: 14u2ponder
 
Originally posted by: AirVillain

Remember back in the day when WE used to be the sniping tool???

I would just remember when an auction I was watching would be ending and be on my computer for that time.

I wouldn't bother with what has to be hell trying to outbid bots (even possible???) and millions of dorks like us trying to bid on ebay now. BIN BAYBEEEEEEE.

You can outbid a bot easy, just make your bid what you are willing to pay rather than making it "just enough to nudge over the current high bid" You are still not full-proof here, but if you wait to bid till the last 5 seconds and then make a healthy bid on something, the bot would have to be set to bid OVER your high bid, which it doesn't know what that is. 
 

Yo guy... that's not beating a bot, that's paying my maximum price. 

I want to get it for as LOW as possible.

If I'm going to pay my max price, why bother with the auction? I'll just BIN. Which, as alluded to, is my preffered method now because it's just much easier and I don't have to bother watching auctions. 

Back in the day when there was much more available it was worth it to watch auctions, and FUN, but not so much anymore. 
You actually don't pay the maxium. 

Example: say you are looking at an auction that is currently sitting at $9.87 with 2 bidders for Kid Dracula loose cart (mint condition). There is 1:36 seconds till the gavel. You want to beat the bots and whoever else is willing to bid. SO:
you judge that you'd be willing to pay $88.65 for the cart. You feel if you can get it UNDER $90 then you got a bargain. With this number in mind, you decide to put a final bid of $90 on the cart and cross your fingers.
At 5 seconds left to go, you unleash your bid: $90. At the same time, the bots and other humans who are trying to get it release their bids, and here's where ebay makes it FAIR and why the bots aren't better than anybody else bidding.
Ebay's bot system is sorting through all of these bids at a lightnighing pace. It does 3 things.
First it looks to see what the current high bidder's maximum bid is. When the high bidder put in his bid, he had the option of putting a number that HE was willing to buy the game for. So for example, let's say that the current high bidder put in a $50 bid, and so he outbid the person who was the previous high bidder's mark, and was sitting at $9.87 as his CURRENT high bid. Remember, that when HE placed the bid, he did not BID $9.87, he bid $50. So in order to beat his bid you need to go over that amount.
So now comes the more complicated part. At the end of an auction, everybody is putting in last minute bids and say you do the same. Say you bid $10, and then look to see you have been outbid to $10.50. The important part here is that the person who bid $10.50 did not have to do anything. Ebay's bot saw that he has a bid of $50, so ebay took your bid, and increased the high bid accordingly. This concept is important. Because let's go back to your $90 maximum bid. If you bid $90 at the end of the auction and no one else bid anything, then you WIN that auction and your final bid would not be $90, it would be $50.50, or just over the maximum bid that came in or was already in.

So see, the bots don't have an advantage on you other than the fact they are willing to bid more than you.

 

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A lot of people have time to waste sitting at a computer trying to buy a game for 20 they can flip for 35 and make an 8 dollar profit for a couple hours of work.

Let them have that shit.

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