Originally posted by: bootload
Originally posted by: dra600n
Originally posted by: GamingSuperHero
The eBay sales tax hit me as well in Canada. Another charge on top of the Pitney Bowes nonsense, conversions and over priced shipping. $100 item=$180-200item after all the nonsense.
Can you show a screenshot of this? I don't believe you're getting 80-100% inflated fees. It's also not ebay sales tax, it's taxed based solely on the state of the sale (where the seller is from). Highest sales tax AFAIK is 7.5%, which is significantly less than your 80-100% increase.
He's talking about all the extras when buying from Canada. I always added about 80% for the converted final price but now it's more like double.
For example, if I buy something that's $100, they add the following:
- About $10 for an Automatic Import Sales Fee from something called the Global Shipping Program. You ship the item to a Pitney Bowes outlet in the USA, they verify the item so eBay knows they won't get scammed. Sometimes if it's packed too largely or too heavily, Pitney Bowes will remove it all and throw the item into a simple padded envelope to save themselves money, then forward it on. I have often received eBay packages where I sent a photo to the seller and they were surprised all their packaging was gone.
- If you somehow find a seller that's smart enough to turn off their Global Shipping Program, they can ship it to you with no fee but then Customs rapes you for 5% of the item plus a $10 fee for assessing the item.
- The conversion from USD to CAD will cost you about another $25.
- The conversion of currency actually has another fee on top of it where they take another $5 for doing the conversion for you.
- The shipping itself is added on top of the price of the item and will probably be about $25 to Canada for some unknown reason. Canada Post really jacks up the prices here, probably because we're so much wider than the USA. It's like God was baking bread and Canada is the part that overflows the pan.
- And now a sales tax that somehow gets applied to an auction item, it's not even a sale. Do you normally pay sales taxes at auctions?
Anyway, that $100 USD item is now $200 CAD by the time you receive it.
Gotcha. Here's the breakdown of it since you're referring to it all
(using my states sales tax and what it actually costs me to ship a CIB and cart only game)
$100 USD
- Cart Only:$13.50
- CIB: $23.50
+6.35% tax:
- cart only: $120.71
- CIB: $131.34
$120.71 USD to CAD = $159.53
$131.34 USD => $173.58
Plus the 2.5% PayPal conversion fee, so tack on another $3ish.
I do feel as though this is misleading, because the biggest factor here is the conversion rate of the CAD to USD. The USD is about 30% stronger than the CAD currently. The biggest fee here isn't the nominal $8 extra on a $120+ purchase (yea, it sucks that it's being enforced, but it's literally the least expensive thing here). The fees are fairly minimal here, tbh. The disparity comes from the strength of the USD vs the CAD currently.
Same issue with the CAD vs the Euro (except worse).
As for auctions, yes, they're taxed in most scenarios. Flea Markets are auctions (at least they're considered that in this state), and if you request a booth more than once or twice, they'll require you to have a sales and use permit (at least here). Which makes sense because a business (or entity) is renting out space, and hosting a market place where no taxes are reporting is illegal (aka, a black market).
Originally posted by: austin532
Originally posted by: TheBiRD
Have no problem paying taxes on a new product. But paying taxes on a used item that already has taxes paid when when sold as new sucks
^This. Why should we have to pay taxes a on used 30 year old game that already had taxes on it? I say if it's more than 5 years old, you shouldn't have to pay internet sales tax. Of course this would require alot of effort on ebay's end figuring out what's old and what's new so they won't do it.
Because that's not how taxes work? Aside from the glaring obvious reason on why that would never fly, taxes aren't based on the items "newness" or age, or if it's been purchased by someone else, but instead the value it's being sold for.
By this logic, zero sales tax should exist because each component in every product has been taxed down the line until it reaches you. Tax is how you keep the economic machine running. Some states (like New Hampshire) have no sales tax. "But if they can do it, everywhere else can!" Well no, not really. New Hampshire taxes the shit out of their property at the expense of no sales or income tax. Here's an interesting article on it:
https://www.politifact.com/new-ha...
If you don't want to pay taxes on eBay, shop from sellers who live in Oregon, New Hampshire, Alaska, Delaware, and Montanna.