Originally posted by: gunpei
I don't know if they trade individual stocks, how often they might buy and sell, or whether they're bundled together in a fund. I only know that when I log into Fidelity, I can see individual stocks. I have an IRA as mentioned, and an "Individual" account (I don't think so, but maybe that means something, in a Fidelity context, regarding the model re: dealing with stocks? Shit, I'm just free-associating now) The advisor is Seger Elvekrog.
I said this seems like it takes a lot of time, and you have thence described caveats, research, theory, and tracking down reading. I think you enjoy it, gaining financial security is cool but it takes time like a hobby does.
Yes, the easy button is what I would want if I were to set up something additional. How much money do you think a guy should/ needs to throw in to start one of those? 10 grand? More? Say 40 years old, $300k in existing financial products, middle class job with (laughable) pension potential, mortgage on 2-flat will be paid off in 7 years.
I am more inclined to invest further in real estate. Not the buy/refinish/sell turnaround game, I mean rental property. Long-term. Knowing my tenants. Issue with that is, higher entry barrier. But I understand it more.
Seger Elvekrog was an investment company, now they are called Provident.
I checked their fee schedule and they are hitting you for 1.25% per year. Though is mitigated by the fact that they are individual stocks rather than a basket of funds that all have their own fees.
So for active trading services that may not be too bad.
I would definitely go through the exercise of comparing your portfolio performance against some benchmarks to see if they are really earning their fee or if that 1.25 percent is dragging you down versus something more passive.
It may well be worth it to stay with them, but you have no idea if you don't do some kind of analysis on the track record.
And even if they are beating benchmarks, it is an exercise well spent to understand where your money has been spent and to what benefit.
In terms of Vanguard target funds (or any target funds) the minimum buy in is usually between 1k and 3k. Idea being they are for everyone.
That said, target date funds tend to have fees as much as 0.8%, so you might easily find your current advisor is making up the difference between that and their current fee.
The really ugly fee schemes are guys like Merrill or Edward Jones. They are insane fee structures from the old days that are in the 4 percent range once you add up their direct fee with the underlying expensive funds they put you into.
Only other thing I would check on your current guys would be their disclosure confirming that they are actual "fiduciaries" in the legal sense.
Edit:. Thinking about it some more, if the fees really are 1.25 percent to trade actual stocks directly and there are no extra fees (like a share of gains) then that is pretty good for true active management, as roboadvisors tend to be in the 1% range and they will likely trade in ETFs that have other fees on top of the management fee from the advisor.
I would still verify I was getting my money's worth against other options, all the same.