Originally posted by: Friendsfa26

i feel the same way, but with people mislabeling their games as CIB, when they actually aren't....
i don't mean lesser items like registration cards (something we never really had included here in Europe)
but more inserts like for example the well known? MIMP figure + original smaller styrofoam piece....
if you have that game as "CIB" listed in your collection,
but are missing those 2 items, than you don't actually have a Monster In My Pocket CIB.......
just the styrofoam itself, doesn't count either.....

here in Europe we had Astérix on the NES, a CIB of this game ALWAYS has the same poster....
if you don't have it included, then you simply don't have it CIB....
same goes for the poster that comes with the Smurfs CIB for the NES....

Originally posted by: Of games

"full licensed set minus SE" isn't a full licensed set and isn't really a set at all.

Originally posted by: Daria

Well this is silliness.

Originally posted by: Sign Collector Guy

My NES set is a full licensed set minus 434 games. I am quite happy with it. I had like 10 games growing up and had to rent everything.

Originally posted by: DefaultGen
Collectors divide things up into subsets because it is not possible to own every single cartridge ever made for NES and goals are fun.

Originally posted by: fcgamer

actual full set enthusiasts.  

Originally posted by: MrFaust
 


I completely agree. We are all collectors here, why nit pick over small details. Who cares, collect and have fun, share it with a community of collectors.

Originally posted by: XYZ

Can we tie this into a discussion of people here who claim they have full sets of libraries when they really don't? I see this amongst elitists who are full of shit but many are fooled thus commanding them undue respect as knowledgeable on the subject.

Originally posted by: fcgamer
  If you go back and reread my initial post, as well as even to read the title of the thread, it is somewhat obvious to have been made in jest, not as a serious topic post. If it were meant to have been taken seriously, I would not have worded things the way I did, and I also would have been more specific in the aforementioned negative effects, rather than just a few not well-thought-out remarks.  

While my stance on the topic of full sets has been stated seriously previously (i.e. everything counts, sans demos and protos which weren't meant for those not in the industry), this thread is not about that. It is about the genuine silliness of collectors as a whole, counting and disqualifying games for whimsicle reasons, and also the "damages" that are caused by that.

If you are seriously offended by the initial post, then I am sorry for that; however, if we have as a society gotten to a point that everyone is offended by everything, then there is not much I can do at that point to solve those problems of others.

Regarding race and discrimination, I don't mean to belittle the topic at all, but as a genuine statement (you need not answer publically here, but just some food for thought, as I don't know your personal situation):  Have you ever been discriminated against, due to race?  People will say that white, middle class males are never discriminated against, never feel discrimination, but over the course of the past six years (living in Taiwan), I have come to be discriminated against almost daily, simply due to race - sometimes for the good, othertimes for the bad. So if people want to start talking about racial discrimination of real people, I have many a story to tell.

edit:  Also, if we were to turn full set collecting into a script and write a movie:  Why couldn't different colored cartridges be equated with different species or races?  In terms of being an allegory, it quite fits when one thinks about it.

Originally posted by: beardcore84


So, are you saying that for example, since I don't physically own the Speed Racer combo cart on SNES, but hav every other cart, I am less knowledgable about the NTSC SNES full set?

 

Originally posted by: beardcore84

Ah, ok. That makes sense. I guess it depends on how seriously you take the badges on this website.

Originally posted by: XYZ

And that's the thing, some people take them VERY SERIOUSLY and possibly they take it so seriously, they exaggerate and bs their way to the top. The problem is that if you say "oh it's just a badge, no one takes it serious", then whatabout all those who take it damn seriously?

One of the reasons I hate how people brag they own every game on a modern system is because they don't have a definitive list of every game. It happened with Wii where someone said they had every game but then Atrevete a Sonar and Lucha Libre and Violetta came to light. You go and immediately buy them at any cost and leg, but it takes your claim of "having every game" and calls it bullshit. You have every game until someone else digs up a new item that you happened to be missing. It ties into this whole talk about whether the Aladdin Deck Enhancer titles count or not. I personally do count them and do own them. But I don't want a badge or bragging rights because there will always be things like Sachen, Brazil titles, or very well done homebrews (e.g. Battle Kid) that I believe belong on the master list that will always be contested to the end of time.

Originally posted by: fcgamer

Recently, someone had made a thread about why the Aladdin Deck Enhancer games aren't included in the full sets of many people, and I started to really think about it, on the way to work. It's so crazy, seeing as how a set of those games can be had for about $100, making the complete set (7 games and one adapter) quite cheap.

It got me thinking about the now-popular "have it your way" Burger King-style collecting, that many NES collectors of today support.  I think this style of collecting can be overall harmful though, for the following reasons:

Historical:  For people that are trying to catalog the games and write down what actually happened and occured, it becomes a bit harder when a vast majority of the community doesn't care about some portion of the set, or even worse, claim to own a full set of games themselves, even if it isn't nearly complete.

Resellers:  It sucks for resellers / selling collectors too - You have a rare game, it should be worth money, but since it is now popular to exclude, rather than include, suddenly your rare game is worth peanuts.

Gamers:  Yup, gamers miss out on great games, mostly due to hearsay (Unlicensed games suck, blah blah game sucks, etc).  But they go into some games with the mindset that they suck, and are second-class, even if they are great.

Racial Descrimination:  Yes, many games are descriminated against just because of their color. Blue games, black games, silver and gold games. All discriminated against just because they look different, don't fit in.  Even games that are smaller or with special adapters, again get discriminated against.

So let's be nice and include everyone.  People should be encouraged and can collect however they want; however, the full set moniker should only be used for those that actually have full sets, as full set fakers just cause a lot of trouble towards actual full set enthusiasts.