Originally posted by: NYGiantFan
It's not the price overall. It's what your getting for the $300 dollars. Nintendo spent a bunch of money on thinking people will care about these "joy con" controllers. Obviously it's expensive tech....see the prices.
The portable tablet is a great idea and I truly believe Nintendo wanted the Wii U to have more mobility away from the TV put couldn't make it work at the time.
I can appreciate that Nintendo is trying to be different and doesn't want to directly compete with Sony & Microsoft. There is a place where they can live in the console space and sell 30 million consoles; even more if this console replaces the 3DS.
Yet, Nintendo will not say this. They did not come and out and say here it is....a console that can play all the 1st party console blockbuster titles that we all know and love....and play those great portable DS games. This console if marketed that way could sell 50-60 million....maybe more.
You get the feeling Nintendo isn't ready to eliminate the hand held yet.
All launch lineups are barren...we all admit that. However, we were supposed to be blown away because Nintendo abandoned the Wii U for at least a year...in some cases longer. That time and the "March" release date was supposed to set everything up for an amazing launch and an amazing first year of games.
What we have are "remastered games that could easily be released right now...yet Nintendo is holding them so its appears that "new" content is coming steadily throughout the year. When is fact Splatoon 2 is hardly a squeal, Mario Kart is a few added features, and no mention of Smash Bros on the Switch.
With the Wii U selling so little, they could have had each of the games mentioned above ready at launch for millions of gamers who didn't bother purchasing a Wii U.
I bet my house Mario leaks into 2018. Nintendo's develop teams are notoriously slow and behind schedule.
This console didn't show one game or one new thing that would make a non-Nintendo fan want to purchase this console. The Switch will once again be a Nintendo fan-boy console and as someone mentioned; that group..which I include myself in are dying.
Sure, I'm getting it for Mario and Zelda alone. But I can't recommend it to other non Nintendo diehards, and the same could be said for the Wii U.
Nintendo doubled down on motion controls; when anyone with a brain could have told Nintendo motion controls are dead.
Once again, big 3rd party titles will not be able to run on the Switch. Oh but what about an 6 year old game called Skyrim????? I guarantee you Fallout 4 cannot run on this console.
Another wasted opportunity by Nintendo to make a more powerful console that would have excited 3rd party developers. I will gladly eat crow if this console sales more than 25 million. Look at the data....this failure won't kill Nintendo because they have billions of dollars. But how can you honestly say they have a chance for this console to be a success; unless Nintendo openly admits to killing off the DS and making the Switch their only console.
Wii Sales- 13 million
Wii Sales- 101 million
Gamecube sales- 21 million
Nintendo 64 sales- 32 million
Super NES- 49 million
NES- 61 million
That's called a trend folks....the Wii was a fluke and no one bought any games for it. 80% played Wii Sports for a year and stopped.
I don't usually see eye-to-eye with a NY Giants fan, but, you sir echo my sentiments almost 100%.
A someone who works in marketing BTW, I found that Switch launch trailer a bit crummy. My biggest problems with the Switch have already been addressed so I'll just use bullet points below for easy reading for everyone else piggy-backing on your post if you don't mind.
- Too expensive to not have a real controller or even ANY pack-in game. The joy-con controller things look kind of dumb in my opinion and I cannot see myself using them ever so I need the ludicrously expensive $70 controller ($60 is too much for the PS4/XB1 too!)...why is this not packed in? No game, fine. But not having a controller for what they are peddling as a home console is suspect at best. I happen to love the pro controller for the Wii U and would probably love this one even more since it has the XBOX analog stick layout which everyone knows is superior. I do not like handhelds any more due to my arthritis in my hands so the joy-cons won't be much use for me.
- Which is it Nintendo, a home console or a handheld? Make up your god damned mind and pick ONE. I vote this be marketed as a handheld and kill off the 3DS. I like how well the Switch tablet looks but as a home console, meh.
- No wireless headset capability native? FAIL!
- So it has Mario and Zelda and some miscellaneous remakes...what the hell else does it have or will it have? A turn-based RPG from Squeenix? (Note: I do like a few of the titles annouced, but, only enough to count on one hand with at least 1 finger unaccounted for)
- I love Skyrim, hell I own 6 different copies of it multi-platform, but I cannot imagine it will run smooth enough on the Switch to warrant buying my 7th copy. Hardware won't be that powerful which is disappointing. I was really pulling for Nintendo to properly compete at least with the base PS4 and XBOX One.
- Renting one game a month? While I am not a Sony fan they and Microsoft do their stuff right by offering multiple games every month to either play or own permanently. I love being able to own XBOX 360 games permanently when they are offered on GWG on XBOX Live.
- Even if you only play the annual or popular multi-platform games on your PS4 or XBOX One the Switch still needs to be relevant with much more 3rd party epic games.
I swear, it is like Nintendo is purposely sabotaging themselves by not at least TRYING to bring in the casual gamer or even trying to intice the PS4 or XBOX One owner to buy in to this. They are throwing away potential revenue and that is a no-no. The PS4 and XBOX One are $250 and offer a ton more value out of the box, what's wrong with Nintendo trying to compete at the minimum with a $250 price tag?
I was a Nintendo die-hard fan from 1984 through 1996 or so, when the N64 came out. I thought Nintendo made a mistake then to use that dumb controller design and stick with cartridges even with the benefits of no loading time. It wasn't a bad system hardware wise and there were some good games, but back then it just seemed irrelevant due to lack of 3rd party support compared to the PSX. So once the next generation came around I thought it would be a good idea to open it up and so I bought a Dreamcast, PS2, GameCube, and XBOX in that order. And you know what? As great of hardware and controller the GameCube had I just felt it wasn't as good as the other three overall taking in to consideration everything--including not having a DVD drive and media. The following generation was an easy choice for me. I had already jumped off the Nintendo train after being disappointed repeatedly and bought an XBOX 360 and only XBOX 360. I didn't buy a PS3 mainly because Sony was starting to become annoying once they stopped doing backwards compatibility in that generation. I bought a Wii like everyone and their mother because of the hype. It was a great thing to have ... for nine months almost exactly. I still have games I've never even bothered to play after buying them. Hell everything is back in the original box/plastic/etc and I could almost pass it off as brand new. Just look at my game totals for each system below from the past few generations and cut them in half (sports games, etc) and you'll get a good representation of what systems are decent (Ignore PS3, don't own the console yet).
Microsoft XBOX: 65
Microsoft XBOX 360: 195
Microsoft XBOX One: 26
Nintendo 64: 13
Nintendo DS: 36
Nintendo GameCube: 20
Nintendo Wii: 25
Sony PlayStation 1: 111
Sony PlayStation 2: 178
Sony PlayStation 3: 6
Sony PSP: 12
I guess my long winded response will end with, I had strong expectations that Nintendo were finally going to be a true competitor and sadly it appears to be going the route of the Wii U. Maybe Nintendo will pull a Sony and Microsoft and update the hardware mid-cycle to be competitive along with correct a few mistakes that they are making at launch like the PS4/XB1 had. I'll hold my final judgement for maybe another calendar year, but after that if I don't see any improvement I'll once again pass on Nintendo this generation.
