Originally posted by: jonebone
Originally posted by: arch_8ngel
Originally posted by: Estil
Did anyone really have a problem with this when it came out and when the NES was in its prime? Or is this dislike of Zelda 2 (and TMNT) just a bunch of AVGN revisonism?
It's definitely a combination of revisionism and a newer batch of gamers just not having the stones for that kind of game.
I doubt it. At the time, if you liked Zelda you did an autobuy on Zelda II. As a kid, once you buy a game, you are going to play it and get your money's worth.
Then, after a couple of decades of Zelda releases, it is clearly an oddball in the franchise. It is not universally panned like the garbage CDI games, but it definitely breaks the mold, just like Zelda Link's Awakening. And if I'm picking between the two, it is Link's Awakening all day long.
Zelda has set a clear path, and anything differing from that path will receive some criticism. When your sample size is two, Zelda & Zelda II, you had no idea where the series was going.
Since the series did revert to its roots, it implies that Nintendo did notice some criticism on Zelda II and wanted to go back to what worked for everyone.
I don't really agree with the last bit.
I don't remember anybody speaking ill of the game, back when it was relatively new.
And from what I recall reading of the lineage of LttP (i.e. reverting to its roots), the idea was that the game designer finally had the hardware to do EXACTLY what they had wanted to do with the original Legend of Zelda, so they did.
(i.e. LttP was less about a response to criticism, and more about the designer being able to do exactly what they had wanted to do in the first place)
Nobody is saying that the game doesn't break with the rest of the series, because that would be a silly and obviously incorrect argument.
What is being suggested is that the game reviewed well, back in the day, sold well, and people generally enjoyed it.
That is, the "general dislike" is a newer phenomenon, and doesn't reflect how the game was perceived in its own time.
EDIT: and to that end, I'm not even clear that there is a "general dislike", because the game STILL seems to review well from people that actually play it.