Originally posted by: buyatari2
This is an example of how when one person puts something in print just once it becomes the law. Now I'm glad to see Chiller included with the others but how does the AGCI Wally Bear differ from Chiller?
To be fair the 2 AGCI Wally Bears that were found are nothing alike. One Wally Bear without a label, with a code that was not final was found. Another Wally Bear with a retail label and final code was found. To me one is clearly more prototype than the other.
If Wally Bear is a prototype than the definition of a prototype needs to be stated. To me a prototype is an item that is a stepping stone towards a final product. You have seen them. Handwritten labels and chips sticking out of the plastic etc, The AGCI Wally Bear has a final label and final code. If you put this cart with 2 other AGCI carts it fits right in.
If however, your definition of prototype is more concerned with a confirmed release and having solid release data then several games on this list are now prototypes. NWC was never released. CMII was never released. What about Chiller, we aren't sure yet. Campus Challenge is also for sure a prototype. However when you see these items *(even Campus Challenge) as final products for what they were intended for then none of them are prototypes Wally Bear included.
The Volleyball should be in the same category as the lottery cart. Until collectors have confirmed carts in their hands these are both Unconfirmed or rumormill.
You're probably right. I removed the word "prototype" and I'll refrain from making categories. That should elviate most of your concerns. Now its just a list. A list that most would agree consists of rare items, regardless of sub-category, which probably better reflects my topic title. Licensed, unlicesnsed, released, unreleased, or prototypes I think the consensus would be that they're all rare in their own right.
I did this thread more for entertainment more than anything else. And to be fair I write unconfirmed as often as possible to stress the fact that I really can't prove anything. I think that most of the members that have responded (or just read) are reading this as I've hoped, for entertainment only.
As for volleyball, I'm still looking into it. Lotto, well I've seen and read enough to believe that the information I wrote is at the very least worth reading. I even put at the end "all of this is totally unconfirmed."