Right, I understand why some people may prefer private sales, but you gotta take the pros AND the cons, cant have your cake and eat it too. 

I personally still hold onto this idea I will find one in the wild. I mean its largely just a fantasy. I have yet to find an NES game in the $100+ value range in the wild. I am always good for an off topic reply. 

I'd call the value 8-12 or maybe 9-12 depending on the circumstances. 12,500 is aggressive. Not batshit crazy, but aggressive. I think it would sit for a while at that price.

I dont know why, but I"m still holding onto the same idea! lol 

You're welcome for getting the debate started.  

I was involved in two SE sales this year and the selling prices were over $4,000 apart. It is too hard to gauge a price; it seems to fluctuate as much as the wind based on a dozen different variables.

Expensive items are volatile by nature. You have a $100 game +/- 10% and it could range from $90 to $110 based on condition. Well, take a $10,000 game and it's going to fluctuate from $9,000 to $11,000 just as normal variation that has nothing to do with market price. If someone needs to make a sale and buyers are patient then they'll get it on the low end. If buyers are desperate and sellers aren't that motivated to sell, it'll go on the high end.

As someone with no interest in owning one, I'd say it "feels like" a $10k cart to me. As a buyer I'd want to be under that and as a seller I'd want to be over that. And hence this exact thread... owners talking it up as $12k and buyers talking it up as $8 to $9k. The answer is somewhere in the middle of course.

Shiet, I'll only pay $4000. But I'm patient, and hopefully will do enough for the community that one day it shows up.

I think a lot of us do that can't justify spending close to 5 figures for a game. It happens, it's just really rare. I know that bear78 got one a couple years ago for a steal in my area... so it does happen. Gives us hope that maybe it'll happen to us someday   

 

Truth!! 
 

I've seen some people mention getting good deals at conventions. Are there certain conventions where you're more likely to find these big games at semi reasonable prices?

SHowing up with cash in hand can cause people to sell things more impulsively.

What are some of the bigger conventions for NES games?  The couple I've been to were kind of small and disappointing. 
 

PGRE, RC, MGE

by the time you find someone willing to sell at a deep discount the value will have moved up and you'll be looking at paying today's value after the discount anyways.    Its your money and decision of course.

Which price are we talking about?

Price - If you are a buyer and want one right now.
Price - If you are a buyer have cash in hand ready to go and can wait 1-2 years for the perfect buy.
Price - If you are the seller and have to sell it right now.
Price - If you are the seller and can wait 1-2 for the perfect sale.

Honestly, that headless copy should be 4k but that seller will keep it forever. 
 

all of em, list em off  






No way man, that cart has history! At least 6k worth of history!

10k-12k
8-10k
7-8k
​12-15k

Forgot the *

* Headless copies are approx half of these values.

You would think people with all these "high" dollar private sales would want to make them public to drive the value up.

Thats one of the reasons I think the whole "private" sale thing is bullshit.

But unless I win the lotto, you wouldn't catch me dead paying 10k + for an SE. So my opinion does not matter  

Seriously though. What do you guys think the headless one is worth? Anybody know what it sold for the last time it changed hands?

it's an easy way to drive up the price without the sales actually existing  

But seriously, I don't doubt for one minute that private sales do happen. People have large collections and would rather keep their privacy, that's fine. But that sale shouldn't mean fuck all for the market. It's not a documented sale. Hence the "private sale." Like I said before, it's either one or the other. Can't have both

I still think the headless one should be a "communal" Stadium Events. Everyone with a -SE set can throw an equal stake into a pot to pay for it, the game is kept in a safe deposit box somewhere, but everyone who owns a stake can claim it for their collection. If someone new wants in, they pay everyone else a bit to even the stake. Eventually everyone can be in for a penny.  

(Joking, of course.)

So this is the one I offered to buy, thinking that with as bad as the copy is, I could afford it. I was told no less than $10, private sales helping account for this price, and I think he had it out for $12,000? I said I'd do $4000 in cash, right there, and he said $10. I certainly felt there was no wiggle room, and then the two private sales I was unaware of was brought into the conversation, etc. I gave up.

Look, I see that seller a couple times a year. Nice guy. But I felt I was making a real offer and would be close to what it was actually worth. I may have gone a tad higher just to get this shit over with. At this point, it seems like it's more of an attention getter and I believe it will be for sale at their booth for quite some time into the future.

Again, super nice seller, always smiling, but I differ with them on this guy's worth.