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So it's now official...there will now be people coming of legal age born AFTER 9/11 Has it really already been 18 years? :(

Sep 11 at 8:59:10 PM
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Originally posted by: Estil

I still can't get over how creepy this particular 9/11 prediction was (I know there's billions of them but hardly anyone knows about this one):

http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&thr...
Quaze debunked it.  

Originally posted by: Quaze

Ok, for seemingly the first time in history, I typed up the lyrics to this song. Besides the 2001 reference, I've gotta go with "nah" on this one. Talks about the collapse of society in 2001, no other 9/11-ish references.

As I gaze through the foggy annals of time
I see poets write poems in which words never rhyme
I see great rows of houses, but never a home
And the date on the wall is 20-o-1

As I gaze way down deeper, in the well of my mind
I see the destruction of my fellow mankind
I see the collapsing of society
Is this the result of mediocrity?

I watch the destruction of life I know well
Earth took the appearance of one giant hell
I saw the reflection of god’s sympathy
Is this the way God meant it to be
 
And now as I witness the end of the world
The flags of our nations are proudly unfurled
It came not of fire, or even of smoke (conspiracy theory debunkage 2018  )
On our lust for great power, the Earth slowly choked

 


 


Edited: 09/11/2019 at 09:00 PM by Tulpa

Sep 11 at 9:13:33 PM
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I was born on August 25th, 2001, so TECHNICALLY I was alive when 9/11 happened   I think there's a bit of a misconception that us young folk are dumb and don't know when certain things happened or how they happened, or that we don't fully understand. Yeah, some of us are dumb, but there's tons of dumb people every generation, it's not like it's exclusive to us. I of course can't remember when it happened, but I've been told stories from my parents and some of my friends, and I've obviously watched a few documentaries and gotten a decent grasp on exactly what had happened.

I don't have the same story to tell about where I was at the time (In a crib, at my house in Texas) but what I can at least offer is that just because we didn't experience it in the same way many others did when they were alive during that time, doesn't mean my generation doesn't understand what happened. It may not have had the same impact on us since we weren't around at the time, but we do understand, and mourn the losses of all the lives lost in that event.

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Sep 11 at 11:28:16 PM
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I was in college and had pulled a late-nighter studying for a test the next day. I awoke in time to get to lunch at the time our cafeteria opened. I recalled it being odd how everyone seemed quite. Eventually some of my friends showed up and started talking about the situation. This was probably 11:30-45 EST, and I had no clue what had happened. As my friends started talking about the events, I was clueless so I asked what they were talking about and one of my friends said "two plane hit the twin towers." One of the biggest regrets of my life was my very minor response of giving a half-hearted chuckle and saying "huh-uh". It's just a way I respond when I'm in shock. I laugh, but not because it's funny. It's how my mind immediately handles shock and stress.

After lunch, I went to a cafe at our school (where people off of the schools meal plan would eat) because it had TVs that often stayed on CNN. It was there I saw the raw footage and it really sunk in about what was going on.

This past Sunday a survivor from the 84th floor spoke at our church. They showed news footage of the events, with the plane crashes and even the footage of the people jumping from the windows. I don't think I've seen some of that footage since it aired in 2001. It hit me hard, again, and it's just tough to see and remember. I use to work in a high rise in Charlotte. Having worked in a big city, in a skyscraper really helped to contextualize the experience a bit more and it's just shocking and gut wrenching.

I really don't know what to say about it but I have a strong sense of empathy when it comes to grief and fear. This stuff gets to me. What makes it worse is 9/11 was certainly a tragedy by any definition, but there's also so much worse in the world. From tribal wars mutilating children to outright genocide every decade or so. The world can be a sick place. 9/11 was an experience that we felt here in the US but for many in other places around the world, the fear of similar attacks on certain families and communities is just as real, every single day. I'm just thankful that America is mostly a safe place. Yes, we have our problems and certain aspects of our society are worse than they were then, but it could be a lot worse. I'm thankful it's not.

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Sep 12 at 1:49:32 AM
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9/11, what an unfortunate day for those kids to be born. Reminds me of that tragedy

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Sep 12 at 2:13:31 AM
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Originally posted by: ZeldaFreak

I was born on August 25th, 2001, so TECHNICALLY I was alive when 9/11 happened   I think there's a bit of a misconception that us young folk are dumb and don't know when certain things happened or how they happened, or that we don't fully understand. Yeah, some of us are dumb, but there's tons of dumb people every generation, it's not like it's exclusive to us. I of course can't remember when it happened, but I've been told stories from my parents and some of my friends, and I've obviously watched a few documentaries and gotten a decent grasp on exactly what had happened.

I don't have the same story to tell about where I was at the time (In a crib, at my house in Texas) but what I can at least offer is that just because we didn't experience it in the same way many others did when they were alive during that time, doesn't mean my generation doesn't understand what happened. It may not have had the same impact on us since we weren't around at the time, but we do understand, and mourn the losses of all the lives lost in that event.
I certainly hope I didn't give you the wrong impression or anything...I'm not saying at all anyone or any generation is "dumb" (trust me, I can't stand ageism at all)...all I'm saying it's just really different.  I mean you yourself said that you heard stories about 9/11 from your parents and whatnot...I most definetly heard similar stories about JFK and such from my parents, my grandma and even my wife (she's a few years older than me) and really anything in history is much different when you're in that time period and see/hear about it as it's happening as opposed to only being able to read about it in the history books is very different. 

For example, it's very easy for me to say in hindsight Muhammad Ali took a very courageous stance by refusing to be drafted in the late 60s when I can look at it with 50 years worth of hindsight and being able to so easily research the issue and whatnot in this modern miracle age of communication.  I can clearly and easily understand his reasons...I mean who would want to go to war against some people who never did anything wrong towards you on behalf of people who called you, well, you know what.  And he knew he was facing losing his title, jail time, media/public scorn (he most definetly was not made into a media darling for this at the time, not by a long shot) and especially losing precious prime years of his boxing career.  To say what he did was extremely unpopular at the time with the general public and much of the media (I've no clue off the top of my head exactly what the percentages of apporval/disapproval was for both at the time) is very much an understatement.  So of course it's easy for me to say today that what he did was courageous and totally understandable given all the circumstances...but would I felt the same way had I been living in that time period?  Maybe, maybe not.

Forgive me if I'm going off on a tangent (I do that sometimes) but I'm just trying to give an example of how things are different, very different for someone who was there as it happened (and can never forget where they were and what they were doing at the time) as opposed to only knowing about it from history books and documentaries and whatnot.  It's nothing about anyone or anything making the difference "better or worse than" in any sort of way...it's just...different.

 

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Edited: 09/12/2019 at 02:14 AM by Estil

Sep 12 at 2:14:08 AM
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I swear I posted about this before, but I can't find it in searching for 42, also can't find the story on any other forum or site I post on...

So here's my 9/11 story. I was in college, in a major city. I had my alarm clock set on the radio, and woke up to people talking about what terrorism is and means. I presumed it was general or theoretical conversation.

I went about my normal morning, and headed to school. On the train, the conductor announced over the intercom that everything downtown was closed. I found that strange, but couldn't make a connection or figure out why.

And so, I arrived at school. The security guard at the entrance said I was allowed to enter, but all classes were cancelled. I don't remember what I did then. I think I came in, just to look for people. But I left shortly.

With nothing else to do, I headed to the retail store where I worked, even though I was not scheduled that day. As an adult, that seems pretty weird. Like, who the fuck goes to their workplace on their day off? But as a young person, with few responsibilities, whose low paying job is a big part of your social life, it makes sense.

I walked in and found assistant manager smoking in the hallway. We are all subversive people, so he joked, "you're in so much trouble when they find you!" I kind of laughed, but didn't say anything, because I still had no idea what was going on. I went in and found coworkers behind the counter, listening to the radio, and they informed me what was going on. 


Edited: 09/12/2019 at 05:26 PM by gunpei

Sep 12 at 8:21:55 AM
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Originally posted by: LutherDestroysTheGond

9/11, what an unfortunate day for those kids to be born. Reminds me of that tragedy
My son was born in the afternoon of 9/10.  My wife and I were really, really hoping he wouldn’t hang around another day because of 9/11. He was born 6 years ago, so to us and other couple we knew, it was something we cared about, even then.

 

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Sep 12 at 8:42:13 AM
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Originally posted by: rlh
 
Originally posted by: LutherDestroysTheGond

9/11, what an unfortunate day for those kids to be born. Reminds me of that tragedy
My son was born in the afternoon of 9/10.  My wife and I were really, really hoping he wouldn’t hang around another day because of 9/11. He was born 6 years ago, so to us and other couple we knew, it was something we cared about, even then.

 

A good friend of mine's birthday is on December 7th, so he always made the joke that his birthday would live in infamy.

I hope it doesn't take until our grandkids are born for being born on September 11th to not be that big of a deal.

But I guess it probably does involve us eventually extracting ourselves from an endless conflict that as of today could now include people born after the event that led to the war in the first place.

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Edited: 09/12/2019 at 08:43 AM by arch_8ngel

Sep 12 at 10:05:35 AM
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Part of the problem with being born on that date is the event is always referred to by the dateitself, 9/11. I'm sure there are lots of notable events out there that happened on particular days (like Decemeber 7th) but the dates are more easily forgeten as they're not referred to.

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Sep 12 at 10:13:51 AM
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Originally posted by: Andy_Bogomil

Part of the problem with being born on that date is the event is always referred to by the dateitself, 9/11. I'm sure there are lots of notable events out there that happened on particular days (like Decemeber 7th) but the dates are more easily forgeten as they're not referred to.
Well... this year is the first time I've seen a bunch of people trying to push calling it "Patriot Day"... which is a bit ironic as the Patriot Act, which stemmed from the tragedy, is probably one of the worst pieces of legislation ever passed in our history.

 

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Sep 12 at 11:19:08 AM
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At the time I was in high school and one of my friends was from Afghanistan. A bunch of people wanted to fight him and didn't want to be his friend anymore. It was pretty stupid.

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Sep 12 at 12:06:17 PM
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Yeah I had a friend in high school whose birthday was 9/11, I remember in 2001 he leaned over and told me it was his birthday. I suggested he just choose a different day and only tell people that day forever.

Sep 12 at 12:58:53 PM
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Yeah, time just keeps flying by..

I distinctly remember that day I was driving home from chemistry lab class my freshman year of college (I was 18yo). It was about 11am est. Every radio station was taken over by AM-style news reporting. I couldn't really grasp exactly what was going on, until I got home and turned the tv on.

Sep 12 at 2:40:32 PM
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Originally posted by: Estil

Originally posted by: ZeldaFreak

I was born on August 25th, 2001, so TECHNICALLY I was alive when 9/11 happened   I think there's a bit of a misconception that us young folk are dumb and don't know when certain things happened or how they happened, or that we don't fully understand. Yeah, some of us are dumb, but there's tons of dumb people every generation, it's not like it's exclusive to us. I of course can't remember when it happened, but I've been told stories from my parents and some of my friends, and I've obviously watched a few documentaries and gotten a decent grasp on exactly what had happened.

I don't have the same story to tell about where I was at the time (In a crib, at my house in Texas) but what I can at least offer is that just because we didn't experience it in the same way many others did when they were alive during that time, doesn't mean my generation doesn't understand what happened. It may not have had the same impact on us since we weren't around at the time, but we do understand, and mourn the losses of all the lives lost in that event.
I certainly hope I didn't give you the wrong impression or anything...I'm not saying at all anyone or any generation is "dumb" (trust me, I can't stand ageism at all)...all I'm saying it's just really different.  I mean you yourself said that you heard stories about 9/11 from your parents and whatnot...I most definetly heard similar stories about JFK and such from my parents, my grandma and even my wife (she's a few years older than me) and really anything in history is much different when you're in that time period and see/hear about it as it's happening as opposed to only being able to read about it in the history books is very different. 

For example, it's very easy for me to say in hindsight Muhammad Ali took a very courageous stance by refusing to be drafted in the late 60s when I can look at it with 50 years worth of hindsight and being able to so easily research the issue and whatnot in this modern miracle age of communication.  I can clearly and easily understand his reasons...I mean who would want to go to war against some people who never did anything wrong towards you on behalf of people who called you, well, you know what.  And he knew he was facing losing his title, jail time, media/public scorn (he most definetly was not made into a media darling for this at the time, not by a long shot) and especially losing precious prime years of his boxing career.  To say what he did was extremely unpopular at the time with the general public and much of the media (I've no clue off the top of my head exactly what the percentages of apporval/disapproval was for both at the time) is very much an understatement.  So of course it's easy for me to say today that what he did was courageous and totally understandable given all the circumstances...but would I felt the same way had I been living in that time period?  Maybe, maybe not.

Forgive me if I'm going off on a tangent (I do that sometimes) but I'm just trying to give an example of how things are different, very different for someone who was there as it happened (and can never forget where they were and what they were doing at the time) as opposed to only knowing about it from history books and documentaries and whatnot.  It's nothing about anyone or anything making the difference "better or worse than" in any sort of way...it's just...different.

 



Oh no no no, I didn't get that impression from you at all! I was more just talking in general. As is always the case it seems, the younger generations are always downplayed as dumb, lazy kids who don't know a damn thing by some of the older generations. That was the case with millenials for a very long time, and now it seems to me like it's starting to be directed at us. The post-millenials, Gen Z, whatever you wanna call us. Finally now that millenials are starting to get a bit older, now that sort of... resentment is being directed at us.

Admittedly, the comment about not knowing when certain things happened was kind of directed at Tri, but the rest of it was moreso just in a general sense, sorry if it came off as being directed at you or anyone else, that wasn't my intention at all  

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Sep 12 at 2:46:05 PM
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Originally posted by: arch_8ngel
 
Originally posted by: Andy_Bogomil

Part of the problem with being born on that date is the event is always referred to by the dateitself, 9/11. I'm sure there are lots of notable events out there that happened on particular days (like Decemeber 7th) but the dates are more easily forgeten as they're not referred to.
Well... this year is the first time I've seen a bunch of people trying to push calling it "Patriot Day"... which is a bit ironic as the Patriot Act, which stemmed from the tragedy, is probably one of the worst pieces of legislation ever passed in our history.

 

noticed that this was on my wall calendar. I was wondering why I didn't get the memo about Patriot Day....