^ Agreed. And this is also the first response from a person who is actually "the market" for this type of item. T-Bird is going for Minty Qualified Black Boxes if I recall, and cited sealed prices as one of the factors.

If people like him are the demand, then the price is ultimately going to reflect what they are willing to pay. I find it hard to believe that the rate would be approximately 50%, because those guys could still afford the sealed if they just were willing to be more patient. The price has to be discounted enough to make it worth their time.

Also, no one has mentioned this key point. There's plenty of collectors who can't even spot reseals (especially new guys), so it is also certainly possible that some collectors automatically assume that a VGA slab = sealed. It's definitely possible that they could overpay for a Qualified game thinking it is brand new factory sealed.

- well, if anybody has a qualified 85-90 DK Math, I'll give them 2k for it no questions asked ;P - and I agree with many of T-bird and Jones points above, except I think certain titles are an exception to the rule, more specificially black box because of the limited supply and excessive demand - the Duck Hunt pick up was a stellar deal and if I saw it, I wouldn't have thought twice about getting it for that price even though I own it sealed - I would never pay 50% for a common title or even somewhat rare title

Yeah, my points were directed at the "average" qualified game.  If you guys are stating that a sealed Kid Icarus is almost equal in rarity to a DK Math, the pehaps $1k is right.  But DK Math is also a clear capstone to a sub set, and I don't see Kid Icarus having near as much demand.  Then again, maybe Kid Icarus has amazing gameplay (never played it), and someone with a nice bank account has some major nostalgia for it.

To illustrate my point a little further, here is another example. I think most would agree that an 85 Mario Kart would be at least a 1k game, well this Q85 has been sitting on Ebay for two weeks at 15% of it's sealed value with not a single taker.

http://cgi.ebay.com/SNES-Super-Ma...

Jim

Ha, glad this has sparked such a discussion.

Oh, and I don't have one... yet.

well there are quite a few more KIs than DK maths, but there aren't a lot of either.   I do think 1k+ for a qualified 90+ KI, 1k is not unreasonable given the price of sealed KI's.        After all, 5k+++ would be the sealed rate in that kind of shape

You've submitted one then?    Do you know that's the grade on it or are you just guessing?

I want to have the 1st qualified Win lose or draw. 80 or higher only. (im picky)

The most interesting debate in a little bit and as quickly as it started it dies just as quick

Jim

So, Ray, what's the scoop? Is that the grade VGA announced to you or is that your own guess?

if its a 1000+ game then here you go

that's an 80 though robin.... there's a pretty big difference between an 80 and an 85.    Not sure what an 85 would go for exactly (who is) but certainly an 85+ I would think to be 1k+ these days.    Even if a sealed 85 was say 650+ (you'd probably agree that's not aggressive?) than the 150 for the Q85 is right around the 20-25% for similar condition.   If the condition we are comparing isn't the same (say Q85+ vs regular 75+) then definitely the comparisons will be out of whack.   

Exactly what the % ends up being I think will depend on the title (your Q80 win lose or draw might go for 80% of a sealed 90 ) but at first blush I don't think the 20-25% seems unreasonable.    When I think about it, that's about what I got for the Q bubble bobble 2, ninja kid, and mario arcade that I sold.   All were around that range and I was happy and the buyer was happy.

yeah, but it's a bucky price... so I think it balances

^^^^ ROFL bucky, let's hear the comeback!   

Of course, we all get the best we can.    Bucky does pretty well on some of those sales (like that qualified SMB!).   Personally I don't have the time/energy/desire to manage that many listings.    If he can get $1k for qualified SMB, good for him.

Hey I paid $700 for that 80!

haha bucky's always watching. jk man (come down on tekken)

I am with Bronty - I want to see this Q90+ Kid Icarus! I have my doubts

I'm sure a sealed 90 is impossible but remove the plastic on a decent copy and send it in and you have a good chance. The plastic protected the box all this time.

I would say that it's definitely NOT impossible, but your point about the plastic protecting the box is valid. 

Take this extreme example:  you have a case fresh copy, but someone tears a big chunk of wrap off.  I'd say that copy would get no higher than 70-75 maybe as a sealed copy?  The box beautiful, so when you remove the wrap, getting it graded now as a Q copy would net you a higher grade on the Q scale. 

I think I'm going to start collecting Q graded ninja turtles games. Seriously. Sealed costs to much, and I can't find them in good enough condition CIB. I'd pay 25% of the sealed price for them. But the catch is, there aren't vey many

Yeah I think Bucky has a 90+ black box game up on Ebay.

^ Correct Robin. I am sure some people have done that already.

Well, I can say that Kid Icarus is definately a great game, and personally I would pay extra for a nice copy of it (not near thousands, but maybe someone else would) whereas I have really no interest in DK Math except maybe to resell. 

No 90+ KI here guys. :\ More or less just curious.

so if you (anyone) had a sealed Volleyball for instance, and the box was crisp, but the wrap was torn in 3 places.  Would you opt for the 75 sealed, or a 90 Qualified?