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Zelda's Adventure CDI NFR's Bunch of these are showing up FAKES!!!

Mar 14, 2012 at 10:38:17 PM
spoonman (66)
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Man, tons of NFR CD-i fakes are flooding eBay lately.
I used to beta test for Philips in '91 and have about 200 of these NFR discs, but they would almost never gave out more than 1 or 2 copies of a single game.

The last flood of fakes were from a guy selling CD-i bundles and he listed them as Zelda's Adventure in the title.
I guess he thought doing it this way would be less obvious. The guy even ripped off my homemade Mario's Wacky Worlds label.

Anyway, many of these are Inkjet printable CDR's. It's very easy to fake being 2 colors and simple text.
A dead giveaway would be a matte finish label. All of the discs I have are glossy (save for the few gold CDR discs).

This guy also doesn't want to give out any details weather they are CDR or pressed:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=22097...

When I asked if he could take a pic of the other sides of the discs he told me they were already packaged up and he can't access them.

Then I asked this:
Can you tell me if the tops of the discs were glossy?
 
The original NFR Philips discs should be glossy on top.
I just want to make sure I'm not bidding on CDR copies with Inkjet printed tops.
 
Thanks.

And he answered:
I don't think they were glossy.
 
Again, it's hard to tell from the picture, but it looks like inkjet to me.
The text doesn't look smooth, and the discs don't appear to be glossy.
Also, the inner ring doesn't seem right either.

Compare his:



To this:



Mar 14, 2012 at 11:33:17 PM
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Yeah, I don't have any doubt that it won't be an immediate determination.

Pretty sure that the holographic digits in the center ring will be telling as well.


Edited: 03/14/2012 at 11:34 PM by Muthafodder

Mar 15, 2012 at 1:27:13 AM
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from those 2 pictures what I see is that middle ring area and the bottom text under the title

the Zelda wand of gamelon and numbers appear to be in 'bold' writing

while the mario hotel only the title has bold and the numbers aren't




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Mar 15, 2012 at 9:45:14 AM
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Well we will see. My disc now says shipped from Ebay

Mar 15, 2012 at 4:22:37 PM
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Originally posted by: icarwngs55

Well we will see. My disc now says shipped from Ebay
I think I know the outcome of this already, but good luck.

It's sad to think this guy may have just made $800 in a ...



While you're at it report this guy...


He's selling CDR copies of Super Mario's Wacky Worlds (which I dumped from this gold CDR Prototype from Frank C.).
It was a real pain to copy and took several weeks to do so.
Now this ass is selling them.

Not to mention he stole the artwork I made years ago!


Mar 15, 2012 at 4:52:08 PM
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So is that Mario Wacky Worlds fake or not?

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Mar 15, 2012 at 7:44:05 PM
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Originally posted by: Marioguy

So is that Mario Wacky Worlds fake or not?

Yes. The one in the auction is a copy of the original prototype.

I dumped the ISO and Frank made it available freely on the web years ago.

Unfortunately with that type of thing people think they are entitled to making profit off of it.
If it were real it would go for between $1000 - $2000 USD.

Mar 15, 2012 at 7:59:02 PM
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He does say it's a copy, sorta. "This Disc is a Mirror of What Was Completed !"

Mar 15, 2012 at 8:08:52 PM
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Originally posted by: theguy1962

He does say it's a copy, sorta. "This Disc is a Mirror of What Was Completed !"
Not when you keep it in context though.

(Prototype Incomplete Game)
"Super Mario's Wacky Worlds" Was Never Completed

Philip's Stopped Making The CDI During Game Testing

This Disc is a Mirror of What Was Completed !

He means it contains everything that was actually completed by the developers.
Not a "data mirror image".

 


 


Mar 15, 2012 at 8:43:40 PM
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so these mario wacky cdi came like this from Philips (with that cover aswell)? So that this is not made by a fan or somethin like that?

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Mar 15, 2012 at 9:08:35 PM
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Originally posted by: Marioguy

so these mario wacky cdi came like this from Philips (with that cover aswell)? So that this is not made by a fan or somethin like that?
No. The gold TDK disc and index card came from PIMA/NovaLogic.

And I made these for the webpage after releasing the iso


I didn't make them so someone could burn a disc of the game and sell it with my images.
After seeing a bunch of these pop up on eBay I removed the high resolution links, but it didn't do much good.


Mar 15, 2012 at 9:19:07 PM
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dang that sucks about the bootlegging with these games.

I actually just bought a CD-I last night just hoping to play some of these "nintendo character" games. But I don't want to pay a high price for a CD-R


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Mar 16, 2012 at 11:22:28 AM
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Hey guys, new here, looked around this site in the past, had a comment to add on these fake CD-I games.

I collect Zelda games and almost purchased this when the seller first listed them (I have an ebay daily 'Zelda' bookmark) I was tempted to purchase it but backed off after seeing the thin white stripes on the left hand box "Philips Interactive Media of America" they have black ink bleeding into the white, if you look at Spoonmans original it's a completely solid white stripe, not to mention the silver/gold edging, it's not printed to the edge.

Many months ago I purchased a supposed legit red copy of Zelda's Adventure from ebay member dorwena777 also for $50 BiN, I jumped right on that and was so excited. This seller back then had pages of retail CD-I consoles from everywhere, loads of retail games, even sealed, not so much now though. After purchasing the game and browsing his other auctions I saw the Mario Wacky Worlds disc and realized it looked like Spoonmans image, asked him about it and he wasn't too happy =)

Anyways, after getting the disc I realized it was fake when comparing it to another picture of the game, had all the same issues of being printed at home, I complained to the seller, he quickly refunded my money ASAP and asked me to send it back, I then sent him images of the disc compared to a legit copy and he basically flat out denied his was fake and came off as a dick about it, he for sure knew it was a copy because I checked his history and he sold many others.

Pictures of the disc I received:
http://super-nintendo.com/zelda-c...
no thumbails, too big, too lazy to resize right now =)

These really show sloppy printing:
http://super-nintendo.com/zelda-c...
http://super-nintendo.com/zelda-c...

Also the cover was a super blurry scan/print on thick paper, also these were from the retail copy, they do not go with the red demo copy.

Google image search for a real copy:
http://www.lanpartyguide.com/zeld...


Mar 16, 2012 at 2:14:17 PM
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Many CDI demos are not printed to the edge. So that matters little. The bleeding is a concern but could be the camera shot. We will see. Like I said if its fake it goes back

Mar 16, 2012 at 3:24:50 PM
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Originally posted by: bigdihor

Hey guys, new here, looked around this site in the past, had a comment to add on these fake CD-I games.

I collect Zelda games and almost purchased this when the seller first listed them (I have an ebay daily 'Zelda' bookmark) I was tempted to purchase it but backed off after seeing the thin white stripes on the left hand box "Philips Interactive Media of America" they have black ink bleeding into the white, if you look at Spoonmans original it's a completely solid white stripe, not to mention the silver/gold edging, it's not printed to the edge.

Many months ago I purchased a supposed legit red copy of Zelda's Adventure from ebay member dorwena777 also for $50 BiN, I jumped right on that and was so excited. This seller back then had pages of retail CD-I consoles from everywhere, loads of retail games, even sealed, not so much now though. After purchasing the game and browsing his other auctions I saw the Mario Wacky Worlds disc and realized it looked like Spoonmans image, asked him about it and he wasn't too happy =)

Anyways, after getting the disc I realized it was fake when comparing it to another picture of the game, had all the same issues of being printed at home, I complained to the seller, he quickly refunded my money ASAP and asked me to send it back, I then sent him images of the disc compared to a legit copy and he basically flat out denied his was fake and came off as a dick about it, he for sure knew it was a copy because I checked his history and he sold many others.

Pictures of the disc I received:
http://super-nintendo.com/zelda-cdi/
no thumbails, too big, too lazy to resize right now =)

These really show sloppy printing:
http://super-nintendo.com/zelda-cdi/disc-edge.jpg
http://super-nintendo.com/zelda-cdi/look-through-disc-bottom...

Also the cover was a super blurry scan/print on thick paper, also these were from the retail copy, they do not go with the red demo copy.

Google image search for a real copy:
http://www.lanpartyguide.com/zelda/cdi_za_demo.jpg
 

Welcome to NA Big-D.

It's sad the seller of that Zelda didn't even give you a printed manual. Actually, he's stupid for even including any artwork at all since PIMA never included artwork on demo/NFR discs.

So what conclusion did that come to? Did he give you a refund when you called him out?
Those Zelda discs appear to be spray painted with a stencil over it. Pretty sloppy work too!

Mar 16, 2012 at 4:47:59 PM
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Thanks for all the info and the comparison pics on this spoonman. I had no idea so many individuals were trying to fake CDI demonstration games. It sucks to think that these have a good chance to turn out to be fakes, but at least with the info you provided in the thread we all know what to look for and have good comparison pics to go by. 

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Mar 16, 2012 at 5:53:19 PM
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Nothing in the mail today...maybe tomorrow.

Mar 16, 2012 at 6:38:31 PM
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This guy should definetly be added to the Hall Of Shame if these do turn out to be fakes.

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Mar 17, 2012 at 3:06:37 AM
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Try running the disc's with this program it will tell you quite a bit.
http://dvdidentifier.cdfreaks.com...

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Mar 17, 2012 at 11:33:23 AM
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Got mine just now. Looks nice but still not sure

Mar 17, 2012 at 11:41:24 AM
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I think it is fake. Awaiting others to get theirs

Mar 17, 2012 at 11:46:06 AM
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I should get mine today too then...we'll see.

Mar 17, 2012 at 11:47:56 AM
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How about a better pic than what the Seller had given...maybe a scan.


Edited: 03/17/2012 at 12:17 PM by Muthafodder

Mar 17, 2012 at 2:07:49 PM
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Can't right now. Also the picture in his auction had no numbers below the title. This disc does

Mar 17, 2012 at 4:47:17 PM
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100% fake guys, sorry to say it. Got mine today and it's a joke these aren't even close to legit. Anyone recieving one of these please be advised they are FAKES and are not in any way authentic.

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