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I'm not going to post the link but - Sealed NES Mario Hangtab

Jul 28, 2017 at 12:26:36 PM

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Originally posted by: jonebone

Originally posted by: Bronty

Originally posted by: jonebone

Originally posted by: Bronty

Originally posted by: jonebone

Personally I only worry about major variants and I know damn well VGA isn't designating at the minor level. That's what makes getting population reports so frustrating, you have to ask about a dozen times on every variant imaginable to try and catch them all. One game that is especially bad is FFVII on PS1, there's black label, black label with and without misprint, black label y-fold, black label overlap, greatest hits and probably some that weren't even designated.

So case in point, all I would care about on SMB would be white seal, black seal rev-A, black seal non-rev A and Hangtab. I wouldn't care about TMs and R and "Game Pak" and all these other minor variants. Maybe they'll catch on but with such a small population to choose from, I don't see the minor variants mattering much.

And side note, those stickers just don't appeal to me. I'd rather have a hangtab with factory plastic, and if that's cheaper, then win-win in my book.

The vga census has all kinds of errors in it variant wise. You can't trust it.

Considering the sticker seals are 10x rarer than regular hangtabs I'll respectfully disagree. They are the first versions and I've probably seen a dozen TOTAL for ALL titles in the last 15 years. It's incredible that a copy from 1985 could survive unmolested when these things went from stores to 8 year olds in complete sell outs.

Well let's not exaggerate here. Last year alone that guy had 5 or 6, Soccer and Clu Clu come to mind. I'm sure you saw more than 6 in the previous 14 years, memory has a way of failing us. I can't recall seeing a huge influx of sealed Black Box hangtabs during that period either.

If someone is so educated on the stickers, aren't there stickers without plastic and then stickers with plastic wrap? Maybe Stack-Up? Not sure, since I don't pay that much attention.

Also, why would a title like Dragon Warrior get a sticker seal in Canada but not in the USA? I think Ice Hockey may be that way too but I'm just going from memory here. I've never seen anyone give a proper explanation as to why / how some games got stickers (other than being early prints). If someone knows that history then I'd be glad to listen to it.

Stack up is the only one. They wrapped unsold sticker inventory when stack up wasn't selling and they got the equipment is my theory.

All canadian releases got stickers; nothing special about them in a Canadian context

So in the case of Stack-Up, let's say you have a Sticker seal with plastic wrap. Plastic looks like shit, it's an VGA 80, but box integrity is excellent. You know it's a 2nd print. Then can't you just remove the plastic, regrade, get 85+ and be considered a "1st print"? That is asinine. Thankfully it only applies to that game but something to be weary about.

Why would Canada get stickers though? Take a game like DW, came out in 1986. It didn't come sticker sealed USA. So stickered were no longer being used here, but they just decided to apply them to CAN versions for some reason? If the manufacturing process had moved to cellophane I cannot think of any logical reason why stickers would be used up there? Unless a USA distribution center changed their manufacturing process before the Canadian center did?

Maybe the other piece you're not considering is that DW was a Nintendo published game. So a Cdn sticker release makes perfect sense. You'd expect the same from any Nintendo release in Canada up to as I say 92 ish. Mega man 6 and Kirbys adventure are both wrap only up here too, so by the very end they switched over to wrap seals here as well.

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Edited: 07/28/2017 at 12:27 PM by Bronty

Jul 28, 2017 at 1:19:41 PM

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Weren't the Euro games also sticker-sealed? Or were these sealed differently?

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Jul 28, 2017 at 1:21:57 PM

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There were sticker seals in other regions like Europe too yes. I think first parties only (?) but not 100% sure

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Edited: 07/28/2017 at 01:23 PM by Bronty

Jul 28, 2017 at 3:11:06 PM

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There was a combination of different seals used outside of America. PAL-A had black stickers on some first-party games (I don't believe all), 'straight red seals' (horizontally and vertically) like here: https://sites.google.com/site/gru... and also a Nintendo version (which was used for awhile)
There's a good article that Mark wrote here: http://static.nintendoagemedia.co... which also shows the large white sticker that some PAL-A games. I have a game that has a sticker put on from the factory, which then has a red Nintendo seal over it, so it was sealed by Bandai.
France(PAL-B) got some blister packs too which is cool.

Anyways, Mattel stopped distributed in the 1st quarter of 1992 in Canada (I can provide documents to prove that..) Don't forget that Nintendo didn't distribute in the very very early days of the NES in America either; it was World of Wonder..

These very slight variants of TM and stuff are important, but unfortunately nobody cares about them, and nobody has documented them.

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Jul 28, 2017 at 3:25:00 PM

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Would love to see those 1992 documents if you don't mind dragging them out. That was gut feel on my part so it's nice to know that was right.

The TM and so on variants don't matter in the cib market I agree but I know if some sealed sales like Zelda and mega man where the price was way more than you'd guess and all about precisely that kind of minutiae and whether it was a true first . I don't see that changing as that trend has intensified a ton. Say 12 years ago people didn't care about any of it. This 30k smb would have been 400 bucks

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Jul 28, 2017 at 3:41:51 PM

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Since I'm a PAL-A collector, there aren't many sealed collectors involved in the stuff I'm interested in. However, I'm very interested in the different versions of games in PAL-A regions. Not for prices, but for REFERENCE..
Remember, in PAL-A regions, nobody even cares about 3/5 screw variants for prices, however some earlier prints of boxed games go for slightly higher than later releases (not many people really understand what a first print is for pal-a games, or how Mattel worked in Italy and Australia differently; people will buy the Italian Mattel version for the same price as the Australian, despite them not being the same). A reference for which order a game came out is important to be documented, including the very slight TM/(C) changes. It will never happen in PAL-A regions anyways.

Here are some references: https://i.imgur.com/KHTlzQp.png... and https://investor.shareholder.com/... " terminations of the Company's distributorship agreements for Nintendo products in Australia in the 1993 fourth quarter and in Canada and Italy during the first and third quarters of 1992, respectively. "

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Edited: 07/28/2017 at 03:43 PM by Of games

Jul 28, 2017 at 3:42:56 PM

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Thx!

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Jul 28, 2017 at 3:56:04 PM

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30k!

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Jul 28, 2017 at 4:57:43 PM

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Was there an influx of Clu Clu and Soccer that I somehow missed? The last census request showed an extremely low quantity of both--

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Jul 28, 2017 at 5:00:46 PM

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there was a seller a while back with a couple copies of clu clu and soccer

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Jul 28, 2017 at 5:02:38 PM

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there was some qusetion at the time as to whether they had been opened from the bottom or not. Some copies had, some hadn't.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2721465740...

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Jul 28, 2017 at 5:04:02 PM

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Oh and Am, you would appreciate this. The original owner of those copies was the OO of the White Mountain comic collection. Same hoarder who hoarded other things not just comics. He clearly got these on clearance as there were some unbelievably low price tags on some of them. I want to say 99c.

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Jul 28, 2017 at 5:06:11 PM

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and you know, now that I am remembering more, I believe some of the price tags he wrote the year in pen on them the same way he did on the front covers of the comics.

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Jul 28, 2017 at 5:07:30 PM

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Originally posted by: Bronty

and you know, now that I am remembering more, I believe some of the price tags he wrote the year in pen on them the same way he did on the front covers of the comics.

Or I could just read the auction description LOL

[redacted] i am leaving the original price stickers on the box, including the discount down to .99 on this, HOW MANY OF THESE DO YOU WISH YOU COULD HAVE GRABBED AT THAT PRICE. wow.

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from the collection of none other than Kennett Neily, the man in the story below who sold the famous "White Mountain Collection" of silver age comic books, known for being in amazingly clean unread condition and for having a date stamp or writing, from when the item was purchased on the first page inside, well he did that on just about everything he bought (see pics).

WHY HAVE HIS COMICS SOLD FOR SO MUCH MONEY: CONDITION, CONDITION, CONDITION--and look at these books, WOW...

In 1984 a man approached Jerry Weist, owner of "The Million Year Picnic" comic shop in Cambridge, Massachusetts, with a small sampling of comics from his collection. This initial meeting was the hobby's introduction to what is now referred to as the White Mountain Collection. Few collections of Silver Age books approach the consistently high level of condition and page quality that White Mountain copies possess. Weist would eventually become the organizer for Sotheby's comic book and comic art auctions. In that capacity, he introduced the collecting world to this fabulous discovery, offering choice samplings in Sotheby's 1991, 1993 and 1996 auctions.

Many collectors are still not aware that the collection's large body of Silver Age publications also included a small sampling of choice, early Underground Comix. It should also be said that most collectors have yet to grasp the significance of that inclusion. For most Silver Age collectors, the UG's are the forgotten books of the period, and this is a serious omission on their part.

AND EVEN FEWER KNOW AB0UT HIS COLLECTION OF SCIENCE FICTION BOOKS, H.P LOVECRAFT ITEMS (he published a zine called Lovecraftian Ramblings in the 80's), MAPS, TRAVEL BROCHURES, PORN, TV GUIDES, CAR MANUALS, MAGAZINES, ART, ETC. also in amazing, mostly unread mint condition.

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Edited: 07/28/2017 at 05:08 PM by Bronty

Jul 28, 2017 at 5:28:37 PM

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That is awesome!!!^^^^^!!! And I did get a Clu Clu and Soccer from him--didn't know he had multiple listings---still a crazy low amount of them

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Jul 28, 2017 at 7:29:14 PM

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Do you guys have a link to a good breakdown on the differences between the different seals? Like sticker seal versus hangtab? Would love to educate myself on seals.

Edited: 07/28/2017 at 07:29 PM by JCDenton

Jul 29, 2017 at 3:20:39 AM

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Can you be more specific?

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Jul 29, 2017 at 10:13:42 AM

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It's getting to the point where it's big news... so much that I'm actually tired of hearing about it from other people. lol

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Jul 29, 2017 at 1:07:14 PM

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after reading your post I googled '30000 Mario sealed ' or something and it's everywhere. All of these websites seem to have made a mess of the details but the story has sure sprouted up

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Jul 29, 2017 at 1:33:41 PM

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Originally posted by: Maertens29

Originally posted by: 1337bcc1991

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Does the price sticker have any effect on valuation or is it a complete non-issue? Would it be worth the risk to try and remove?

30k+... no way is it worth it to risk anything like that

Removing the sticker really has 0 risk if you know what you're doing, so it would fully be up to the buyer. It has no basis in the evaluation given its ease of removal / rarity of the item in question.

Price stickers or any sticker that are not originally part of the original item, really sucks! Is a shame that stores put stickers on.

Edited: 07/29/2017 at 02:24 PM by ziggy

Jul 29, 2017 at 2:26:09 PM

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Originally posted by: Bronty

Originally posted by: rondy_

The copy that sold for $30k is pristine and has a nice hangtab, but it has "TM" after "Nintendo Entertainment System". It belongs to the the last print of hangtab boxes, so I don't consider it first print and I know it is not a second print either.

Originally posted by: Bronty

I guess I am a little bit happier to have this locked up after today's events.

http://imgur.com/YGOykxC

That's very impressive! There were two sticker sealed prints for this game, one with and one without(first print) the text "Game Pak (NES-GP)" on the back.
Which one do you have?

Here's the back. I think you're saying this is a first right?

i seduced princess peach, and this baby Mario was the offspring

https://imgur.com/gallery/v8Pxf

Nice!, so there's even a early print than your copy? other with NO "TM" on the back?
Also your copy don't have the NES P SM on the top left, so your copy is early than the 30K?

Edited: 07/29/2017 at 02:30 PM by ziggy

Jul 29, 2017 at 2:31:01 PM

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I think you may have mixed up the details. The one that sold is a hangtab copy. Sticker sealed copies are earlier. So the one that sold is the (by Rondys count ) fourth (still very early iteration) and the one I posted the first.

The order being

Sticker seal no code
Sticker seal with code
Plastic wrapped hangtab box with no TM
Plastic wrapped hangtab box with TM

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Jul 30, 2017 at 10:21:31 AM

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Originally posted by: Bronty

I think you may have mixed up the details. The one that sold is a hangtab copy. Sticker sealed copies are earlier. So the one that sold is the (by Rondys count ) fourth (still very early iteration) and the one I posted the first.

The order being

Sticker seal no code
Sticker seal with code
Plastic wrapped hangtab box with no TM
Plastic wrapped hangtab box with TM

30k for a 4th edition wow.. I cant hang with these prices.

Do you know anything about how/when they got changed? like who made the descisions for the boxes/carts, and when they got changed over? Seems like a lot of changes from 1985-1987

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Jul 30, 2017 at 12:08:02 PM

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It may be a fourth but it's still very early. First or second is not realistic to even find, just dumb luck on my part. It's about the earliest that's realistic to get a copy of and it was minty

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Jul 30, 2017 at 12:09:04 PM

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Lots of little changes from 85-87 yes but no I don't know who made the decisions

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