If I am doing a full set (SNES for instance), I will get the greatest hits labels as "major label variants" to check the box. But my preference is always black label if Im not going for both.

In my opinion, Xbox Original Platinum Hits look much more appealing, something about the platinum background makes the games looking more prestigious IMO. Soul Calibur II platinum vs non platinum for instance, or Halo vs Platinum Halo. Much better by comparison imo. Or especially Fable vs Lost Chapters, no comparison. Of course, green is just naturally nasty. Xbox360 platinum hits are nasty though, I don't get why they couldn't just alter the box color and add the platinum hits emblem to the label the way they did on Xbox Original, instead they opted to shrink the game label and repaste it in the background of the new label, making them looking truly atrocious in any collection.

SNES Player's Choice doesn't bother me though, since the PC emblem is tiny and in the corner. Of course, that might have something to do with the fact that none of the alter the label/box much at all.

I don't own any aside a couple that were mandatory (VF4 evolution, Fable Lost Chapter, etc). I sell and remove all that have them  

As long as it doesn't interfere with my pie.

I throw them directly in the garbage.

I always try going for Black Label but if I find a greatest hits copy of a game I'm looking (Common or Rare) I'll still get it.

Doesn't matter. It's the same game. That's just as bad as the people that only collect first run PS3 or Xbox360 titles because the GOTY edition isn't collectable enough. It's the same content, and in some cases the GOTY edition comes with most or all the DLC.

that can be applied to greatest hits too. They can have bug fixes or more content, Fable lost chapters for example

It's a mentality that you'll see in any hobby that does multiple print runs of anything. Comic books are the obvious example, with the value of the first print of a book being 100% or more more valuable than any subsequent printing, despite being an identical product in most cases. 

 

Comics I understand because first runs that are worth anything are generally pre-80s. With some exceptions. But most Greatest Hits are always in console lifetime of the original release. I would expect remakes/rereleases on this treatment but GHs I would place on the same shelf with black labels.

Dollar amount doesnt really factor though. Regardless of the value of the first print of a comic book, it is almost always going to be dramatically more valuable than it's second printing. Be it a $10 first print with a $1 second print. Or a $30,000 first print with a $1000 second print.

And modern books sellout and reprint all the time.

1) If all that matters is content, why is any of this worth anything?   download the rom and you're done.

2) pre-80s comics is actually where second runs are valuable, the earlier the more so.    Did you know there are three different print runs of superman 1?   No noticeable difference in price.   There's also 2 or 3 different batman 1 printings (slight premium for one version), and 2 versions of Marvel comics 1 (bit of a premium for october copies).   [well, to be more specific, pre 1980s, there was generally one print of a comic and that was it for the most part.   The pre 80s discussion is mostly moot but in the few cases where second prints exist they are usually contemporaneous and don't sell for more or less.

3) Again, if content is all that matters, why are prototypes worth any more than loose carts?   Same content.   Both vintage.

 

So I think we're drifting off-base with my assessment. Obviously Superman #1 is going to be more desirable in it's initial run than a 2016 reprint. Same with Final Fantasy X is going to more desirable than HD Remix. However, GHs are released during the life of the console and therefore should, in my opinion, share shelf space with black labels because it's just another run with the same content on the same system. If you really want to justify it, then why do people collect 5-screw or variant labels? If you're worried about having 5-screw Zelda vs 3-screw Zelda then you'll probably pass over GHs. To me either is fine, since it's the same game on the same console and fills that hole on the shelf.

Prototypes are not even retail released, that's a bad assessment. Prototypes are also not always the same content as the retail release. So that's not even part of this topic.

ROMs aren't collectable or take up shelf space, so it's kind of a moot point.

I'm just making the point that content isn't the only thing that matters.

Other stuff DOES come into it, like whether its black label or green. It may not for you. You may see that as a silly demarcation, others may seen green labels as discount product because that's exactly what they were when they came out.   $59.99 games marked down to $29.99 (or what have you).

You're taking the position that it was the 'same' product sold the same way at the same time, but that's not really true.. there WAS a very significant difference.. price!

Some games were sold at clearance prices, does that affect collectable status? And last I checked, this was an opinion thread, am I not entitled to it? How you collect and how I collect are two difference breeds of collector and that's cool. But what makes my "silly demarcation" based on the factors I laid out seem any less pertinant to how you view it?

I'm not trying to make anyone change their collecting habits. Some say they like them, others say they don't, others don't give a shit. I just stated why I believe it doesn't matter.

So based on your points, are you looking for me to change my position?

GOTY - More content!
Black Label - Because green labels are an ugly eyesore.
Original = reprint - if they're identical I don't really care which I end up. Although in the case of dupes original trumps reprint.

Did you make your opinion thread in hopes that nobody would have a different one?

 

I never said that. Is that what was implied?

Kinda? What you seem to be implying is that since he is stating his own opinions on the subject, that he is trying to change or devalue your own. At least that sure is how it's reading to me.

I don't think it's a matter of changing your opinion, you have to realize you're on a site that recognizes screw variants on cartridges, so something blatant like green budget labeling all over your stuff is a big deal. Greatest hits releases tend to be more budget, cheaper materials, etc. Example, A ps1 title has ugly bright green boxes, the disc are no longer pressed with color art but just basic black/white art, overall, you're getting an item that is made as a budget release.

It's a lot different than a GOTY version to me since those come with significant content, I actually tend to buy both, and in the rare instance a GH release had it (think Silent hill 2 ps2, Fable, etc) I get those too  

Myself, I only collect US releases, black label, etc. This is done because I find it's the most aesthetically pleasing along with cost control method on the import thing, but I don't care how others collect, no judgement.

I don't have a problem with difference of opinion. It's when it becomes a "You're looking at it wrong" contest that it becomes a bit personal. I know others don't see things the way I do, it's silly to bring that up, but that's what opinions are and to compare aesthetics in a sense that I am somehow suppose to collect based on mutual factors defeats the purpose of having a personal preference.

You're reading something that isn't there.

Just take a deep breath and read what I said.

I said that YOU may view a difference that *I* place between the two as a silly demarcation and that's fine.     In other words, you may not agree that ME seeing them as different product has merit.   Remember, I'm the one drawing a line between the two of them, not you, so when I am talking about someone drawing a difference between them I am talking about MYSELF not you.   

Nowhere did I say that YOUR OPINION was silly.    What I was saying in effect was that you may view MY opinion as silly as that's fine, I just have to disagree.  

Do you understand now?
 

Thanks for the clarification Bronty. The way it was worded previously came off as a bit offensive so I apologize for my defensiveness. Your clarification makes much more sense.

I think there is a middle ground here, they are different products but they are the same game. As collectors, one of the things that defines us is that we collect, which means we theme, find differences, etc. In reality, if there was no such thing as a greatest hits line then there likely would never be more than one release back then. To me, that does define it as basically 2 'product' on a physical level, but 1 product at the code level. Basically, not much designates an original print, but this does, and as collectors that often matters.

In reality, there are hundreds of kinds of collectors, we should all get along and try to learn from each other. I don't buy greatest hits because I hate the way they look, if you don't mind it, then I don't mind it either   People buy only new, cart only, in box, screw variants, on all systems, on one system, full sets, not full sets, it's silly to try and fight over the type you are, I don't agree with many things but I respect everyone's right to do as they please.

To put my cards on the table, I only collect black label, I collect on 40 platforms(ish), I don't collect full sets (outside of a couple small ones), I do not buy sealed titles unless the price is the same, and I take pride in my setup being designed to play the games while displaying them nicely. So, I could go an argue about sealed collectors or whatever, but in reality I just don't care. If anything, it's nice to have them focused on things I don't care about so they don't fight me on the stuff I do  

Keep in mind there are legitimate reasons for collecting black label for certain systems. So it's NOT the same content.

For PS1 for example. The GH have plain disks with no color and the manuals are shitty.

IDK about you, but a full color pretty disk is more desirable for me. Add the black label that just looks better and the better quality manuals and i can definitely see why people would want them over GH.

Even the case quality is better on some games.