The Karma Chameleon Telephone seems like a better investment then this.





As much as I love cartridge based consoles, one of the reasons why people love to buy and collect for their Atari, Sega, or Nintendo is the legacy they have and the personal memories. You can't expect to put a new cartridge console and expect people buy it on being "old school" despite using a defucted company name and Jaguar mold.

Other hand if someone like Nintendo or Sega started doing this for there older systems, that would be more interesting.

Goodness...if this happened, I imagine most of the smalltime homebrewers would suddenly not have a hobby. I sincerely hope this does not happen. I'd probably have to jump to pc or android or something at that point. I'm kinda expecting they won't do this---they would have no control over the market---the old systems are already hackable and open and cloned and etc. etc. etc.
 

Like it was mentioned above, Coleco is just a name nowadays. It's owned by someone who owns names and gets royalties, that's their business. I don't think they're investing any real money in this project, they're letting someone else use their name and hope that they'll make some money out of it. Coleco's risk is nearly non-existent, if the system fails, people will forget about it and the brand will not be affected. If it works, then they win.

On the other side of the coin, Nintendo and Sega might look at homebrewers as a prospective pool of talent to scout. You're right that it probably won't happen though.


Well, that sucks! I was trying to look for some silver lining here.

If they're using Jag shells, unlikely. The whole point of the Retro VGS was that it used a console shell mold that was already engineered to save money, and they were using the Jaguar game cart molds. My guess is the intention is to use the Coleco name, but still go with the VGS plan of original games. Of course there are so few details its just as much vaporware as the Retro VGS.

I remember the original thread they posted they were calling it the Retro Entertainment System, a name already taken by a clone. I don't think they have the slightest idea what they're doing.

 

I'm calling it the Coco-Retro.

ARS has a new article about he Coleco. From what I gathered there expectations seem a lot more real now, and they are basically pinning alot of the blame on the guy that was designing the hardware.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/201...

Will be interesting to see what they have planned.

Blame the guy who is gone, instead of the guy who was in charge If Mike actually thought it was a bad idea he would not have been the driver behind the campaign.

If they can pull it off at a price that is still reasonable, I might buy one just to satisfy my curiosity. Something I haven't heard about yet, though, is games. I'm wondering what their current plans for getting developers are.

I blame the lack of a defined vision or business plan which allowed for price/feature bloat. I still think they're lacking in the vision/business plan category
 

If the Retro VGS was a singing chameleon with a harmonica-playing ladybug next to it I'd shell out the cash in a heartbeat

It's got my attention anyway. I'm not excited for it or anything, but you can definitely color me interested. I am not certain I would contribute to a Kickstarter campaign, though.

I'm amazed this thread hasn't been bumped yet with the shitstorm brewing. Mike Kennedy premiered a "prototype" at the New York Toy Fair. The sleuths at Atari Age have shown pretty easily that all Mike did was take apart an SNES mini, and shove it in their Jaguar shell. Things just went from funny train wreck to straight up scam.

My prototype is better! https://www.facebook.com/retroUSB...

I completely agree with straight up scam, but his next move is to just blame the hardware guy again.

@the-news-about-coleco-chameleon-being-a-snes-mini Wow. Just...wow. Well I mean on the one hand nothing wrong with making yet another snes clone, just be honest about what it is and does...which apparently they are not. I thought it was going to play old coleco games not snes. What the freaking fracking heck are they thinking. I am actually beginning to wonder if Mike is clinically insane, yet functional in society. Like so many of us, only our insanity comes out in less spectacularly faily ways.

*edit* I keep wanting to give him the benefit of the doubt. But I'm getting pretty confident now that if anybody comes up with a "new retro" system that I and other retro coders would be interested in developing for, it's not going to be this team. (unless it stays a snes mini, in which case I guess snes coders by default will be developing for it anyway)

Also, our insanity usually doesn't cost a lot of other people their hard earned money.

So....I'm guessing you are not on short list for the first line of production.

Not sure if fraud or they saw that they couldn't make their deadline to deliver a demo product by show time so they just frankensteined an SNES mini so they could show PIKO's game. I'm sure they knew PIKO was stopping by with a board, so at worst, all they had to do was show that it would play an SNES game.

This was not a good idea by them either way...

 

If they did SNES, and included HDMI, and put some money into the dev tools like a good c compiler, then it would probably be very successful.  But that would take actual hard work and they also wouldn't need to hide what it was.  
  Saying what it actually is would be transparency/honesty, and would get a few people laughing at them.  Claiming it is their own new board moves directly into fraud and adds 30+ pages of bad news on AA.  I didn't think he could destroy his reputation so much so fast!

https://pikointeractive.com/blog/...

Piko is claiming ignorance, but really, he brought his SNES repros/homebrews to show, that are clearly SNES PCBs. Either he is too dumb to realize that you couldn't just plug an SNES PCB into a random cartridge slot and it will work, or he is complicit in this whole fraud.

Given how he is banned from here and elsewhere for his shady activity, I'll believe the latter.

That is almost exactly what I said    http://on.fb.me/1Lqd0EF...  Lower down you can see how he doesn't think his name will be dragged down too.  

I was wondering when this would come up on NA again. I e been following the AA thread and I dont think Ive ever been so sucked into a forum thread. Its like watching a car wreck you just cant look away

Held off on reading this for a day or two, and wow! Fraud and duplicity, I never would have guessed! I saw a bunch of pictures on the Twitter of it running and playing CollectorVision's game, and figured that it was good to go (to the best of its abilities at least), but had no clue it was all faked. Interesting turn of events, to say the least...

Edit: just lost an hour and a half to reading, and still twenty pages of posts over the last two days to go (which I doubt go anywhere else, so that's a night).

Kinda answers why they're showing this off at Toy Fair instead of a gaming convention: chances are the audience is pretty ignorant to RVGS and they may not be familiar enough with the SNES to figure it out. No way they'd bring that turd to PGRE or anywhere else. Either way, just seems like a colossal waste of everyone's time...

I'm totally speechless. This is almost as bad as Ahmed's clock. All he needs now is a trip to the white house and successful kickstarter.

Thanks to Ahmed, everyone thinks that kind of fraud is totally A-OK.