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Billy Mitchell's +1M DK records possibly done on MAME, not real hardware 4/12 update: Billy banned from TG and his scores removed

Feb 2, 2018 at 3:13:13 PM
teh lurv (118)
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A poster at the donkeykongforum examined the direct feed recording of Billy Mitchell's world record Donkey Kong play-sessions. He went frame-by-frame during the stage transitions and notices inconsistancies in the loading of the stage sprites that can only be explained if the game was being run on MAME as opposed to actual arcade pcb hardware.

The poster wrote a VERY lengthy breakdown of what he found and what it means: http://donkeykongforum.com/index....

The poster also notes that two of the world records were witnessed by Todd Rogers.

TG forum cross-post: http://www.twingalaxies.com/showt...

4/12 Update: Billy Mitchell has been banned from TG, his scores removed, and Guiness Book of World Records notified of developments: https://www.twingalaxies.com/feed...;

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Edited: 04/12/2018 at 10:08 AM by teh lurv

Feb 2, 2018 at 3:13:50 PM
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Man, this has become a real clusterfuck.

Feb 2, 2018 at 3:22:18 PM
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I mean atleast his scores are possible to achieve

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Feb 2, 2018 at 3:22:52 PM
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Man. I want to watch King of Kong again after all this settles.

Will Billy's Hot Sauce value spike?


Edited: 02/02/2018 at 03:23 PM by Ichinisan

Feb 2, 2018 at 3:22:52 PM
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Interesting. Never knew it was easy to track.

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Feb 2, 2018 at 3:23:10 PM
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I think it's simple really...


All past records will be obliterated because much like how today's athletes are bigger, stronger, and faster than people from the '80s, the video game nerds that are competing today are far more prolific, organized, playing/training smarter, have better tools at their disposal, and are driven.

This old guard doesn't have a chance... which is going to directly clash with their egos. Anyone on the "national video game team" from the '80s has been eclipsed by thousands of young nerds nowadays. The only possible way they can put up relevant scores now is to cheat.

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Feb 2, 2018 at 3:32:36 PM
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^ plus HGH. dude, they're all on HGH.

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Feb 2, 2018 at 4:00:07 PM
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Billy Mitchell always has a plan.

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Feb 2, 2018 at 4:00:27 PM
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OHHH BILLY!!!

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Feb 2, 2018 at 4:10:59 PM
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Personally, I suspected performance enhancement drugs.

Feb 2, 2018 at 4:17:55 PM
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Originally posted by: Brock Landers

This old guard doesn't have a chance... which is going to directly clash with their egos. Anyone on the "national video game team" from the '80s has been eclipsed by thousands of young nerds nowadays. The only possible way they can put up relevant scores now is to cheat.

Now now don't let me see anyone shit talkin' ma boy Donn Nauert.....he was the voice of the referee in WCW vs nWo World Tour for Nintendo 64, and we weren't. He'll always have that on us. Plus the nerds today don't have the sweet jumpsuits. It don't mean shit if you aren't wearing a jumpsuit.



Feb 2, 2018 at 4:22:56 PM
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Is Twin Galaxies the MySpace of competitive gaming yet?

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Feb 2, 2018 at 4:43:41 PM
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Arcadegate?

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Feb 2, 2018 at 4:49:27 PM
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Originally posted by: Ichinisan

Man. I want to watch King of Kong again after all this settles.

Will Billy's Hot Sauce value spike?

Oddly enough, I just watched King of Kong last night and it makes Twin Galaxies and Billy Mitchell look pretty bad. Also watched Man vs Snake and it takes a pretty similar tone.  
 

Feb 2, 2018 at 5:04:40 PM
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Never met the guy but he always came off as a douche in documentaries and such. Let's just wipe the board and do them all over again.  

Feb 2, 2018 at 5:08:10 PM
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Originally posted by: Loxx O)))

Let's just wipe the board and do them all over again.  
*quickly playing every game for five minutes just to have the first high score*  

 

Feb 2, 2018 at 5:12:03 PM
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I'd be a legend.

Feb 2, 2018 at 5:25:00 PM
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Peter Dinklage's character in the movie Pixels is starting to make more sense now.  

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Feb 2, 2018 at 5:27:19 PM
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I don't know who this Billy Mitchell fella is, but Garret Bobby Ferguson is the one true master.


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Feb 2, 2018 at 5:31:20 PM
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Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos

Peter Dinklage's character in the movie Pixels is starting to make more sense now.  
Holy shit...

Feb 2, 2018 at 7:27:11 PM
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Yeah this is huge news. I know he was given a bad wrap in the King of Kong movie, and is supposedly a nice guy in real life. But this very clear evidence makes him a total cheat and his career should be over. If you are inviting him and paying him to be at your convention you are supporting a lying cheat.
Definitely gonna watch King of Kong again now.

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Feb 2, 2018 at 8:06:48 PM
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Didnt he submit a video that was obviously edited or something? Snd twin galaxies recognized it as legit?

Feb 2, 2018 at 8:11:40 PM
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Originally posted by: MrWunderful

Didnt he submit a video that was obviously edited or something? Snd twin galaxies recognized it as legit?

I read the whole dispute thread on tg, current to this morning. One of the (former?) refs/officials mentioned one of his DK submissions had an issue with the video with the score around the million mark, and 2 or 3 of the officials watching immediately agreed it invalidated the video, but walter day approved it indepentenly afterward. I think they may have rescinded it when they found out, I kinda glossed over that.
 

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Feb 2, 2018 at 9:55:51 PM
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Damn , just checked the DKforum leaderboard and the man Steve Weibe is all the way down in 19th place. guess he put he joystick down

Feb 3, 2018 at 1:43:48 AM
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Originally posted by: TWarwick07

Damn , just checked the DKforum leaderboard and the man Steve Weibe is all the way down in 19th place. guess he put he joystick down

Still decently high considering how many fresh Donkey Kong players that movie must have generated, and the raw dedication that people who stream video games for a living bring to the table.

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