NintendoAge http://nintendoage.com/forum/ -Sqooner "Nintendo in trouble" http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=119096 2014-03-21T14:06:28 -05.00 Vandy 123
Yet, I have this PS3 and now PS2 again and I'm snapping up games here and there and I'm more motivated to mess with those and really get into them, old day marathon-lite plays where I can blow 2-3+ hours and not realize it. I think the last time that happened aside from a few days here and there, consistently was the Gamecube. Mario games I still like but they are what they are, and Zelda games I have trouble dragging myself into despite loving the stories (I like my 10 manga books more than the games.) Perhaps I need to find what's lost or just give up on their consoles as I'm not feeling it anymore and am too afraid subconsciously to admit it. I may love that Wii U but it will sit for weeks or months doing nothing but having a light glowing at me. I got gifted that DK game for my bday on the 10th, played it an hour I think and did most of the first world and haven't gone back. ]]> "Nintendo in trouble" http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=119096 2014-03-21T13:56:58 -05.00 Vandy 123 The one game I really want ported over is Phantom Pain, going to borrow a friends console I guess to play that one ]]> "Nintendo in trouble" http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=119096 2014-03-21T13:12:14 -05.00 Vandy 123 "Nintendo in trouble http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=119096 2014-03-21T01:19:22 -05.00 Vandy 123 Originally posted by: dra600n


I never said it was a failure, or will be. A lack of success doesn't instantly mean something failed, but rather didn't meet expectations from the company or the fans. Quit trying to twist things around that are clearly not be said. Didn't the nes and snes both sell over 100 million units each? And the wii sold more than that, so I'm not sure where you're pulling that average from. Nintendo "lost" the console wars for 2 generations for the home console, and it can be debatable with the wii when you compare hardware to software sales ratios. Nintendo hasn't had the same support since the snes, one would think that after 3 generations, and entering the 4th, they would do something to remedy that. Why is it the DS and 3DS get all the support yet the n64, wii, and wii u lack it? The GameCube is an anomaly as it wasn't the best of it's generation, but wasn't the worst, but still had the support (more or less). I calculated the average exactly. 

NES - sold 50 million "won"
SNES - sold 62 million "won"
N64 - sold 33 million "lost"
Gamecube - sold 22 million "lost"
Wii - sold 100 million "won"

Software sales not included, Nintendo has only been on top once in the past 20 years for home consoles. 
And the DS and the 3DS get the support since they are winning the handheld market. When a console sells 154 million units like the DS has (1 million behind the record of the PS2), it gets support since developers see potential sales, espcially since the DS and 3DS are the only big players in the handheld market. 

The Wii didn't get support because it was non HD and devs couldn't easily port games over. 


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Originally posted by: dra600n

Worth more? Halo CE sealed is close to $1,000 last I knew, and I haven't seen anything Nintendo related that's the same age worth even close to that. Also, how long are you guys going to keep saying "they'll turn it around"? It's been out for over a year and a half (or close to that), and you're still saying that? How long is it going to take to accept that it's not going to be anything better than the 64? End of this new generation of consoles?
I meant that the franchises of Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon are worth more than anything MS or Sony have made. 
If Nintendo does not see some progress with Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros. for the Wii U, then I can start calling this thing a failure. Though the Wii U has some amazing games and I am really enjoying the console, if those 2 games released this year combined with a price cut do not move systems, then I can re-evaluate my position on Nintendo. 

Essentially, I do see the system selling more than the N64 (I said 40 million perhaps) - and you are calling that a failure? Nintendo home consoles have an average sale of 53 million units - if the Wii U gets anywhere close to that, I still call it a success. 





I never said it was a failure, or will be. A lack of success doesn't instantly mean something failed, but rather didn't meet expectations from the company or the fans. Quit trying to twist things around that are clearly not be said. Didn't the nes and snes both sell over 100 million units each? And the wii sold more than that, so I'm not sure where you're pulling that average from. Nintendo "lost" the console wars for 2 generations for the home console, and it can be debatable with the wii when you compare hardware to software sales ratios. Nintendo hasn't had the same support since the snes, one would think that after 3 generations, and entering the 4th, they would do something to remedy that. Why is it the DS and 3DS get all the support yet the n64, wii, and wii u lack it? The GameCube is an anomaly as it wasn't the best of it's generation, but wasn't the worst, but still had the support (more or less). ]]>