NintendoAge http://nintendoage.com/forum/ -Sqooner Demon's Crest (New/Factory Sealed) http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=29&threadid=113648 2013-10-26T23:41:00 -05.00 spoonman 52 Demon's Crest (New/Factory Sealed) http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=29&threadid=113648 2013-10-26T23:19:07 -05.00 spoonman 52 Demon's Crest (New/Factory Sealed) http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=29&threadid=113648 2013-10-26T23:14:11 -05.00 spoonman 52 Demon's Crest (New/Factory Sealed) http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=29&threadid=113648 2013-10-26T19:44:06 -05.00 spoonman 52 Originally posted by: Bronty

Matt, please don't be defensive. No one is calling you a liar and I'm sure every single person on this thread believes your story 100%. You seem to think that either we believe you OR it's a reseal. No - as I pointed out I believe you AND I think it's a reseal.

You're right that you came for a price check and not an authenticity check so let me be the first to throw out a guess. I'd say 300-350 for your copy.

And although Im not personally interested in it I don't think there is anything nefarious about people telling you it's reseed and wanting to buy it. It's still minty mint and the fact they DO believe your story is one reason why they'd want it. Your story is absolutely 100% believable and I 100% believe you. But that ain't a factory sealed game. Unopened perhaps , but not factory sealed. Please don't be hostile - were just trying to point out to you the truth. Thanks Dan,
I'm defensive because it has to be one or the other. Either it's factory sealed or I am a liar.

If it's in fact a reseal then it happened before being put into the 6pc box (which also had it's own branded tape seal "if tape is broken..." and it wasn't by the way.)

I may have over-reacted, but it did feel very much like a witchhunt for a while there.
I acted as if my name was at stake because it was, my website as well.


Originally posted by: Tanooki

If the vent holes are correct and it's tight, one plausible explanation would be an internal reseal by Capcom. Let's say between Japan and the US, the local boys got a bit aggressive with a box cutter and sliced the game box enough to cause the white line and shred the wrap. In that case I could see Capcom just resealing it before shipping it on to a distributor. Another less likely would be a printing error/defect from the point of where the boxes are mass printed on large sheets before or after they're cut and not quality controlled into the nearest trash can. In any of those cases you could get a legit seal and from the factory.
This could be a possbility too.
The vent holes look real. If there is a method of finding out I'd like to know.

You guys asked me to take it out of the plastic and take more pictures, which I have done.
If there is anything else that would help prove that I received it from the company this way I'd be happy to try it.

Working at the game store for 7 years I have seen some pretty strange stuff, including an upside down stickers, game manuals with blank pages where there should have been print, off-center cut inserts, and so on. There is definitely room for error.


Offset insert Tekken 3                                                              Upside down pages in Final Fantasy VII


Typos


Blank insert in factory sealed MGS2


Anyway, going back to the vent holes. If someone has info on what to look for please let me know and I'll check into it.
It also brings up the question, if someone knew how to fake vent holes wouldn't they have made it an "H-Seam" seal as well?

]]> Demon's Crest (New/Factory Sealed) http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=29&threadid=113648 2013-10-26T14:18:25 -05.00 spoonman 52 Demon's Crest (New/Factory Sealed) http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=29&threadid=113648 2013-10-26T09:46:08 -05.00 spoonman 52 Originally posted by: Bronty

Well spooner I and everyone else Im sure believes your story but there is one thing I don't believe you are accounting for. Games were sometimes rescaled at the distributor level. Didnt happen that often but it happened. ive seen distributor overstock that was as much as 15-20% reseals. usually its much lower say 2% but there were disributors that did this more than others. It's entirely possible for a game to have arrived at the store already resealed and unfortunately that's what you're looking at here.
 
Exactly. It could have been resealed before it ever hit Matt's hands and his story be 100% completely true!
Tons of games were resealed like that.


]]> Demon's Crest (New/Factory Sealed) http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=29&threadid=113648 2013-10-26T02:36:07 -05.00 spoonman 52 Originally posted by: Bronty

Matt, please don't be defensive. No one is calling you a liar and I'm sure every single person on this thread believes your story 100%. You seem to think that either we believe you OR it's a reseal. No - as I pointed out I believe you AND I think it's a reseal.

You're right that you came for a price check and not an authenticity check so let me be the first to throw out a guess. I'd say 300-350 for your copy.

And although Im not personally interested in it I don't think there is anything nefarious about people telling you it's reseed and wanting to buy it. It's still minty mint and the fact they DO believe your story is one reason why they'd want it. Your story is absolutely 100% believable and I 100% believe you. But that ain't a factory sealed game. Please don't be hostile - were just trying to point out to you the truth.
Amen to Dan, and the price estimate is solid!

]]> Demon's Crest (New/Factory Sealed) http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=29&threadid=113648 2013-10-26T02:26:47 -05.00 spoonman 52
You're right that you came for a price check and not an authenticity check so let me be the first to throw out a guess. I'd say 300-350 for your copy.

And although Im not personally interested in it I don't think there is anything nefarious about people telling you it's reseed and wanting to buy it. It's still minty mint and the fact they DO believe your story is one reason why they'd want it. Your story is absolutely 100% believable and I 100% believe you. But that ain't a factory sealed game. Unopened perhaps , but not factory sealed. Please don't be hostile - were just trying to point out to you the truth. ]]> Demon's Crest (New/Factory Sealed) http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=29&threadid=113648 2013-10-26T01:46:48 -05.00 spoonman 52 Demon's Crest (New/Factory Sealed) http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=29&threadid=113648 2013-10-26T01:44:11 -05.00 spoonman 52
Also, I don't want to extend on the subject, but you are the one over-reacting. You answer like all your credibility stand on this argument. Relax, it is just a sealed-resealed debate. There's no reason to be offended really by anything regarding your Demon's Crest.

Your game might be brand new inside, but it was most certainly resealed somewhere before it ended in your hands, that's all, there's no big deal here. And if you want a price estimation on THIS copy, it won't be an estimation that consider it 100% sealed legit and the value will probably be alike the price of a near-mint+ CIB + a premium for the possibility of it being brand new inside. ]]>