http://nintendoage.com/forum/ -Sqooner http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=357 2007-01-31T23:20:41 -05.00 NationalGameDepot 27 Originally posted by: NationalGameDepot

I agree with that Basil. All variants are really up to the collector to get or to pass on. Most people don't collect variants actively, they might keep them if they find them on accident though. I say we add every little thing we can find, and leave it up to the individual collector to decide to hunt for it or not.

~~NGD

Well put. ]]> http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=357 2007-01-31T21:45:25 -05.00 NationalGameDepot 27 ~~NGD ]]> http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=357 2007-01-31T20:55:32 -05.00 NationalGameDepot 27 Originally posted by: Bronty
Note also that the unaffected reds on the white labels are all flat patches of color whereas the logo is in a gradient scale. Maybe the gradient scale is why they needed a separate plate and why the colors ran dry there only? Although if that's the case why would they need to make the beam emanating from the gun part of the same plate, unless they wanted it to look especially RAD, this was the 80s after all..

You took the words right out of my mouth.

Anyway, it definitely needs to be noted on this site; it's just a matter of whether or not it goes in as an official "variant" or into some other category. Personally, I don't consider it a variant in the "needed for a complete set" sense, but, in the final analysis, the decision of whether or not to "count" it is going to be up to each individual collector, just like with everything else.
]]> http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=357 2007-01-31T19:23:02 -05.00 NationalGameDepot 27 http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=357 2007-01-31T17:44:48 -05.00 NationalGameDepot 27 Originally posted by: NationalGameDepot

That is true Dan. If it was like you all are suggesting then the the Bandai logo would have it also, but it doesn't. Plus with 2 box variants that seems to make it more legit in my eyes. Thoughts?

~~NGD

Not just the bandai logo either... if you look at the background behind the gun on the label, the walking figure is in a red suit and has a red and white pinwheel above his head.

Those reds aren't affected either. So if these white copies are as a result of dye running low, the red in the logo and emanating from the gun had to be part of a separate color strike (I assume that's what dangevin means by touchplate).

So you're right that there are some problems with the theory... although personally I think its the most likely explanation. Its hard to know for sure, but I bet if we looked hard enough we'd see different levels of pinkness on certain carts.

Note also that the unaffected reds on the white labels are all flat patches of color whereas the logo is in a gradient scale. Maybe the gradient scale is why they needed a separate plate and why the colors ran dry there only? Although if that's the case why would they need to make the beam emanating from the gun part of the same plate, unless they wanted it to look especially RAD, this was the 80s after all.. ]]> http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=357 2007-01-31T16:39:48 -05.00 NationalGameDepot 27 Originally posted by: Dr. Morbis

The Bandai logo is a different color from the sections we're talking about. Sure you can say one is "red" and the other is also "red", but that's just a flaw with our semantics. There are more than just the seven colors of the rainbow. Those two reds don't even look close (to me) in the most ruddy box pic posted above.




Yes but a 4-color offset printer only uses...well 4. Black, cyan, magenta and yellow. If you're low on magenta, everything that uses it looks wrong. Sometimes, rarely, a printer will use a separate "touchplate" to add a special color - an enhanced yellow, or a gold or silver...something that can't normally be simulated with pigment mixing. This could be the case that the true intended color was a hot neon pink, and it's a strong enough color that a touchplate may have been used--but it costs quite a bit extra, and to have so many defects (i.e. too strong a red) seems ludicrous. IF this is the case, more likely Bandai opted for the service, reviewed the first wave, asked to adjust the color to a lighter pink, and all subsequent ones were the "correct" color. Poor QC (colorblind kids on the line!!!) could account for progressively lighter boxes.

But taking a step back...I can understand Nintendo footing the bill for their big Xmas releases like Rad Racer and Kid Icarus to get a silver touchplate. But Bandai doing it for Shooting Range? I guess they could have considered it an advertising expense, to have the only hot pink title on the shelf with the others. Also they may have been concerned that it was a gender-neutral game, but the fact that it included a gun peripheral would immediate turn girls off, so they'd attract in this manner.

Sorry I always tend towards the marketing explanation for things Good convo. everyone. ]]> http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=357 2007-01-31T00:34:13 -05.00 NationalGameDepot 27 ]]> http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=357 2007-01-31T00:19:54 -05.00 NationalGameDepot 27
(sorry for the double post) ]]> http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=357 2007-01-31T00:12:02 -05.00 NationalGameDepot 27
As mentioned above, where do you draw the line in terms of which ones are variants and which aren't? Do you have just three (red, pink-ish, white) or do you have 5? 10? I mean, after the red ink started running low, no two would technically be alike. You're gonna have to whip out your thesaurus to come up with names for all the variants you could possibly have.

I do envy you for having an all-white one though, NGD. ]]> http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=357 2007-01-30T23:58:30 -05.00 NationalGameDepot 27 ~~NGD ]]>