http://nintendoage.com/forum/ -Sqooner http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=91981 2012-12-27T19:52:44 -05.00 AirVillain 17 http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=91981 2012-12-23T23:59:41 -05.00 AirVillain 17
CIB to me = cart/instructions/box

however some games always come with extra's, such as the legend of zelda which has atleast a map included.
so if you would buy a CIB zelda... it wouldn't count as being CIB unless said map is also included.

for example the european released games Asterix & Star Wars both have a poster inside, so if i see one listed on ebay without the poster then i know it's not complete..

other games just seem to randomly have extras included in the box, so if you bought the same game twice... it doesn't mean that those extras are included in both of em, a good example for this would be the club nintendo cards that can be found in FRA releases... , also early 1985/1986 FAH/FRA released black box games often seem to have a poster with ROB on it included, the later wave(s) of black box releases didn't have that.

asfar as i am aware for US titles, you can simply make your own CIB's by putting together a cart/instructions/box of the same game because unless i am wrong, EVERY title has 1 code only.. for example NES-B5-USA , so this code would also be on the manual and the inside flaps of the box.

for european titles this concept is a little harder as there are multiple country specific releases, i can't just put a HOL cart inside a box which says EEC on the inside flaps and or have an FRA box with an ESP manual... ]]> http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=91981 2012-12-23T13:48:03 -05.00 AirVillain 17 http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=91981 2012-12-23T12:42:39 -05.00 AirVillain 17 Originally posted by: Soera

CIB does not mean complete in box. It means cartridge instructions box ... when you used to buy things way back in the day, it would have a little checkbox (just like the ones on the collection manager here) with a C I B at the top.

There is no way to tell if the box and instructions you have are the original with the game you have. They were mass produced and slapped together.

Maps, inserts, styrofoam, etc are all additional when it comes to a complete item. Most NES RPGs for example used to come with maps. Those would not be considered in CIB but would be considered in a complete.
Interpreting CIB as cart/instructions/box seems to be a Nintendo thing. Virtually every other hobby uses CIB as "complete in box". ]]> http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=91981 2012-12-23T12:38:03 -05.00 AirVillain 17 Originally posted by: Soera

CIB does not mean complete in box. It means cartridge instructions box ... when you used to buy things way back in the day, it would have a little checkbox (just like the ones on the collection manager here) with a C I B at the top.

There is no way to tell if the box and instructions you have are the original with the game you have. They were mass produced and slapped together.

Maps, inserts, styrofoam, etc are all additional when it comes to a complete item. Most NES RPGs for example used to come with maps. Those would not be considered in CIB but would be considered in a complete.
Perhaps they are mass produced and all look the same but more can be said on the matter. If I didn't have a baby on my lap, I'd go to my collection and snap some pics of manual/box variations and match ups. There are revisions, codes, and stars - each pertaining to different release - and often times there is no difference between the two manuals other than the code or star but it can then be matched to the correct box. Also, Mr. Mark was able to conclude that the hang tabless Gyromite came from a specific NES set because it was a pack in, therefore didn't requite the hang tab. Other examples exist as 100's of games have more than 1 revision, sometimes even more than that. All it really takes it finding the list or making one and matching things up. When you have 2-3 of the same manual and notice each has a different code, it begins to make more sense. ]]> http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=91981 2012-12-23T12:09:27 -05.00 AirVillain 17 http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=91981 2012-12-23T11:49:36 -05.00 AirVillain 17 http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=91981 2012-12-23T11:47:52 -05.00 AirVillain 17 http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=91981 2012-12-23T11:42:21 -05.00 AirVillain 17 http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=91981 2012-12-23T11:35:10 -05.00 AirVillain 17 CIB= Cartridge, Instructions, Box
CIB= Complete in Box
CIB= Closed in Box [beware when buying from using saying "Closed in Box"]
NIB= New in Box [100% Brand New - Unused. Just as good as factory sealed]

When I say "CIB"-I'm personally saying CIB as "Complete in Box", but of course it original Cartridge Instruction[s] Box. The reasoning behind that is that everything I collect doesn't come with a cartridge and could come in a box lol. So people use Complete in Box from time to time.

So for instance if my -Legend of Zelda: The Four Swords with the GBA cable bundle- was opened [not factory sealed], but never used. That would be "NIB" [New in Box] aka Brand New-Unused. The Japanese Version of the LoZ: Four swords bundle cannot be purchased factory sealed so it would be "NIB". If it was "used" then it would be CIB - Complete in Box, since it isn't technically new. However, the bundle does not contain a cartridge. Get it? People use for CIB-Complete in Box for many games and items that doesn't necessarily come with a Cartridge, instruction Manual or Box.

The reason I say beware of sellers who use the term "Closed in Box" is because I've heard and read problems with the term. Sellers would use "CIB" meaning Closed in Box. Sometimes not even stating "Closed in Box" in the listing at all...just "CIB". Once purchased and you receive the game\item you'll notice that everything is not "CIB" [Cartridge, Instruction, Box or Cmplete in Box to our standards]!!!! So some slick ass sellers used "Closed in Box" because the item[s] they are selling are not incomplete. Could be missing a instruction manual or items thatthe game came with like posters\maps etc. On the worse occasion the actual game could be missing. Don't get me wrong some people don't know this, so everyone isn't a bad guy. Some people 100% know this and are just lying.

I don't think you can tell if a game contains the original manual that it was purchased with. Especially since cartridges, boxes and manuals get traded all of the time. One way you could tell is by the condition of the manual and game. If the box+cartridge is in pristine condition and the manual [and other items in the box] are in terrible condition; then you can make an assumption that they mix and match. Some people can tell by the revision numbers I think [Players Choice manual with a Black Label title]. Since no one can tell most of the time, the most important thing to do is to get the items regardless. Or purchase games from a true collector who doesn't trade often. It's not hard to keep the manual with the game. More and more people are just piecing it out for profit. Some people only want a few things from a specific game.

Having all of the items with the game definitely makes the value increase. Not all games value increase a lot. Most people have inserts\foam\phamplets\ads\warranties etc with other games they can careless about. So that's usually not a huge problem. Espeiclly if those items are widely available as well. The extra value depends on the value of the game and the actual collector that will purchase the game. Some people will pay an arm and a leg for somethings. ]]>