Originally posted by: langenfeld

Ahhhhh.....

Why do I feel like whatever I type here will only make things worse? I have written many responses, thought better, then deleted them.  I knew there would be some controversy when I made the post, I'm no fool.

First Nick...

I met Nick on NA so obviously post him selling resealed NES games. The community had forgiven him before we were ever introduced so I didn't hold it against him. 

I honestly am unsure about exactly what and to what extent Nick has done to this community. Of course I have read the thread, talked to Dain, talked to Nick etc., but somethings are a little unclear. I have always chosen to leave it that way.

Nick was super negative and did start to bring the site down at the end.  His banning was absolutely warranted. In fact he and I didn't talk for almost 2 years after him leaving. 

The label...

Ok... let's be serious.  The "fake" label was created by me for me. No need to put it on Nick's resume. I was able to lift up the lid to the copy machine and hit print without any help.

Some of the posts here seem to think I have damaged the cart or performed something irreparable and devalued the NWC somehow.  Come on....I used a small piece of double sided tape to put a piece of paper on the front to make it look nicer. On top of that I made it public knowledge. I will absolutely consider trying again with a less authentic label to make it a little more widely accepted and still make it easier on the eyes.

I brought this to NA and opened myself up to all this criticism so that it would never be viewed as any attempt at a forgery or deception of any kind.  I purposely told the whole story from Nick to the reproduction label so that it could be recorded. I didn't accidentally open a "can of worms". My only choice was to be forthcoming with the entire story or let this NWC gold just vanish from the community.

Thanks to everyone who has had positive things to say both in this thread and privately about the actual acquisition of NWC gold.

Originally posted by: Holy-SNES

Sorry to go off topic but if someone could clear this up that would be great.
I've been noticing a lot of members have the same avatar, the shadow guy with the words 'BANNED' across them.
Is this avatar given to members that have been banned and is this something that was brought in recently? Well, I noticed it a few months back heh.
Reading that thread RE Nick, I noticed JJAAMMEESSNNEESS has this avatar also. Has he been banned too?

Originally posted by: qixmaster

yeah no need to lock this up. keep it open. nick morgan is a top of the class douche bag and while i've never had a problem with the OP, i've known for a long time about you and nicks video game relationship. you can paint this picture any way you like, but i'll paint it as it stands.

Nick was first arrested and fined for faking factory sealed games on digitalpress years ago
Nick paid lots of money, apologized a million times and promised to never do it again.
Nick came here and did a good job communicating and adding to the community.
We openly accepted him, even with the past transgressions... ya know, the whole let bygones be bygones thingy ma-jig.

Nick started stealing from the site. Creating his own affiliate links.
He took it a step further.
He started creating fake section z maps.
I'm almost positive there was more counterfeiting in the mix.
He willingly took from the community for his own benefit.
If you want to talk about character, Nick Morgan has none. Let it be known he is not welcome on our forums and people that openly associate with him do so at their own risk.

Add a fake Gold NWC Label to his resume.

Sorry langenfield, you opened this can of worms. everyone here needs to be privy to who you actually associated with in conjunction with this cart and this bullshit "for your entertainment only" label.

Let bygones be bygones my ass. Not so long as I'm a member and moderate these boards.

Originally posted by: CashForGamesCanada


I personally don't get the repro label idea. This is like touching up the Mona Lisa....Display it as she comes!



Ken

Originally posted by: Portabello

Seriously, the guy spent 17k on a video game and you all won't let him put a repro label on the cart? I completely understand disrupting the collector zen with something that could be mistaken as original, but if it's clearly a reproduction, why get so offended? if a true collector is going to shell out that kind of money in the future, they would be stupid not to do their research. These aren't fake $20 bills floating around, you are worrying about someone who might accidentally spend 25k when they should have spent 17k. First world problems, let it go.

Originally posted by: JosephLeo


We're all just a bunch of nerds arguing about the semantics, philosophy, and ethics of game collecting.

Ultimately it's lagenfield's right to do what he wants with his stuff until he hands it down to the next guy. However, just as OP has his own rights, everone else has their own rights to positively, neutrally, or negatively form their own opinions on his actions.

Fact of the matter is, everyone now knows that the label is a reproduction label which is only good for the future of that specific cartridge.

Originally posted by: Kid Dracula

Very interesting thread.

Somewhat unrelated, but I don't know how it's possible to not notice Tanooki was banned.

Originally posted by: Portabello

Seriously, the guy spent 17k on a video game and you all won't let him put a repro label on the cart? I completely understand disrupting the collector zen with something that could be mistaken as original, but if it's clearly a reproduction, why get so offended? if a true collector is going to shell out that kind of money in the future, they would be stupid not to do their research. These aren't fake $20 bills floating around, you are worrying about someone who might accidentally spend 25k when they should have spent 17k. First world problems, let it go.

Originally posted by: Kid Dracula

Somewhat unrelated, but I don't know how it's possible to not notice Tanooki was banned.

Originally posted by: langenfeld



I brought this to NA and opened myself up to all this criticism so that it would never be viewed as any attempt at a forgery or deception of any kind.  I purposely told the whole story from Nick to the reproduction label so that it could be recorded. I didn't accidentally open a "can of worms". My only choice was to be forthcoming with the entire story or let this NWC gold just vanish from the community.