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Homebrew Vegetablets Go & Ilevan - New NES/Famicom Game on Cartridge EDIT: Sold Out -- Hopefully more to come soon.

Mar 28, 2018 at 9:20:45 AM
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I'm not saying he should be shielded, I'm just suggesting you don't get so personally hurt over something like this. Would you prefer projects like this not exist at all?

Mar 28, 2018 at 4:13:36 PM
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I missed out, got busy. Here when y'all are ready to sell.

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Mar 28, 2018 at 4:28:09 PM
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Originally posted by: neodolphino

I'm not saying he should be shielded, I'm just suggesting you don't get so personally hurt over something like this. Would you prefer projects like this not exist at all?





If this is the way projects will be released, then yes.

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Mar 28, 2018 at 4:40:40 PM
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Nobody would have known if the OP hadn’t been trawling through Japanese twitter feeds.

I welcome all hobby releases regardless of release sizes. This is a niche hobby full of niche ideas.

People will always miss out with large or small releases, that’s just how it works. You can’t please everyone, every time.

Mar 28, 2018 at 7:04:50 PM
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Originally posted by: fcgamer

Originally posted by: neodolphino

I'm not saying he should be shielded, I'm just suggesting you don't get so personally hurt over something like this. Would you prefer projects like this not exist at all?





If this is the way projects will be released, then yes.

Then I personally think you are missing much of the point of homebrews... But whatever...

I'm happy whenever I see a release, and am encouraged that people from all over the globe have, and continue to homebrew, even if I can't obtain a copy of this or that game... And I am pretty into Homebrew collecting.


Edited: 03/28/2018 at 07:06 PM by neodolphino

Mar 28, 2018 at 9:31:49 PM
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Originally posted by: neodolphino
 
Originally posted by: fcgamer
 
Originally posted by: neodolphino

I'm not saying he should be shielded, I'm just suggesting you don't get so personally hurt over something like this. Would you prefer projects like this not exist at all?



If this is the way projects will be released, then yes.

Then I personally think you are missing much of the point of homebrews... But whatever... I'm happy whenever I see a release, and am encouraged that people from all over the globe have, and continue to homebrew, even if I can't obtain a copy of this or that game... And I am pretty into Homebrew collecting.
I have no idea when you had first gotten involved in the community, but I can clearly remember the early day of homebrew games, starting with all of the tech demos and encouraging the authors, despite a lot of them being very primitive things such as Pong on a field of black, soundless.  Other demos such as Time Conquest had blown me away, and I really wish it would have been seen to completion.

Then came Solar Wars, the first true game IMO from all of the demos, Bomb Sweeper and others would follow.  Garage Cart was significant, basically the first release which, albeit limited, had IIRC had open slots for quite some time.  It wasn't sold out in three minutes, or something rediculous like that.

You and other people homebrew and create new games, gamers and collectors such as myself want those games.  But just as with Amibos and NES classics, such limited releases just turns me off from it in general.  I stand by my point, and while not having produced a game (yet), have watched the homebrew scene grow quite a bit over the years, and think I therefore have a right to comment my feelings too.

 

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Mar 28, 2018 at 9:53:37 PM
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As you stated before, you are comparing a gigantic company like Nintendo (which failed to provide their fans with enough units to meet their demand -despite- having the ability to do so), to homebrewers who are generally making these things in their spare time/as a hobby/as a passion project, and honestly don't owe anybody anything. That anyone makes any releases at all is fantastic in my opinion.

I get that you are frustrated, and sure you can have whatever opinion you want. But admonishing this guy/ other Brewers for not releasing as many copies as you would like is kind of crummy (especially when it's unknown if he will release more in the future, let alone if he has the means or time to release more).

You can be turned off by small releases, but discouraging releases because they aren't to your liking, no matter how small they are, doesn't help the scene grow.

Mar 29, 2018 at 12:05:28 PM
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Originally posted by: neodolphino

As you stated before, you are comparing a gigantic company like Nintendo (which failed to provide their fans with enough units to meet their demand -despite- having the ability to do so), to homebrewers who are generally making these things in their spare time/as a hobby/as a passion project, and honestly don't owe anybody anything. That anyone makes any releases at all is fantastic in my opinion.

I get that you are frustrated, and sure you can have whatever opinion you want. But admonishing this guy/ other Brewers for not releasing as many copies as you would like is kind of crummy (especially when it's unknown if he will release more in the future, let alone if he has the means or time to release more).

You can be turned off by small releases, but discouraging releases because they aren't to your liking, no matter how small they are, doesn't help the scene grow.
I bolded some things above.  While you are right, hobbyists don't owe anyone else anything at all, neither does Nintendo owe their fans little retro throwbacks.  I saw a lot of bickering on NA about the NES Classic, for example, but I'd reckon almost all of those folks had virtually all the software that came packaged on that thing, hence they only wanted it for collecting purposes.  Nintendo produced countless amounts of the machine (compared to ten carts or whatever this guy did), and it was all a nice product for their retro fans, though it was also totally unnecessary, no matter how big the company was.  My case in point, if we (not necessarily you, but the NA board as a whole) can feel compelled to complain about a (somewhat) limited supply of something like that, then the same can be said for a truly limited release.  

If you don't mind me asking, in your collection of games, what percentage is Famicom, and what percentage is NES?  If you are from York area, we hail from basically the same place, but I suspect that if most of the carts you own are on NES, that is why we are going to have a huge difference in perspective on this "release".  

As another guy on the forums had erroneously said about being so many Famicom homebrews available, actually, there are basically none.  So each and every release is something that strictly  **Famicom** collectors want to own, ranging from parts as close as Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and Hong Kong, to outreaches as far away as Poland, Hungary, Russia, the Middle East, South Africa, and the vast majority of South America.  And then, I'd venture to guess that some of the people purchasing Famicom versions of the game don't even own / collect Famicom games, rather just wanted it as an addition to their NES set.  Of course something like this is going to ruffle the feathers.  We finally, finally get a Famicom homebrew release and ... well no, actually we didn't get it anyway.  :'(

I rememeber hearing and reading that over the years, some people have felt that the NES homebrew scene has become a bit saturated.  More people producing games, of varying qualities.  Another contributing factor though, I am sure, is the same thing that happened, which ultimately killed the Amiibo fad, as well as many other fads.  Too many limited releases, and thus those who were collecting the games had to jump through hoops to obtain them, ended up being unable to purchase several key releases, even if they had been collecting homebrew carts from the start, then finally just gave it all up, and got out, lost interest.  I'd imagine that having people lose interest in the product, when dealing with such a niche market to begin with, is not exactly what people should be striving for.  Just my thoughts, but often times, it seems people here are too short-sighted on these sorts of issues. 



 

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Mar 30, 2018 at 9:32:58 AM
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Arguments on good release practices aside, Tulip House has confirmed that he will in-fact make more copies available to purchase in the future (see twitter reply here). So that is definitely good news for those wanting a copy.

I think the big thing to remember is that this is just one person who is completely detached from the homebrew and collecting scene. He didn't number the carts, he didn't try to make them limited to inflate price, he simply released a game he made for fun.
I imagine his thinking was that if he manages to sell out of a small batch, then it would justify the creation of more. I'm sure he wouldn't feel compelled to make more (or even a new game) if he invested tons of money into  100 cartridges (for instance), and only half of them sell.

Anyways, I really hope that more people get their hands on the game. There is clearly a demand, and it's always awesome to see cool small projects like this come into existance.

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Mar 31, 2018 at 10:42:09 AM
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THe gmae can be ordered directly from that page or?

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Mar 31, 2018 at 3:53:11 PM
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Originally posted by: fcgamer

THe gmae can be ordered directly from that page or?

When they were actively for sale, each game was for sale individually on their respective page. Little PayPal boxes showed up where it says sold out or whatever.

Mar 31, 2018 at 7:18:17 PM
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Well, if he finds this thread, count me in if he wants to make more.

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Mar 31, 2018 at 8:07:04 PM
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Me too

Mar 31, 2018 at 9:30:35 PM
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Mar 31, 2018 at 10:42:07 PM
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More copies of Ilevan are going on sale due to how fast it sold out. They go on sale Sunday April 1st 11pm (UTC +9) -- or 10am April 1st EST. Purchases made through Paypal on this website: http://tulip-house.ddo.jp/digital/ilevan/
Looks like there are 18 more copies going on sale from the looks of it.

Via Twitter: https://twitter.com/tuliphouseRadio/status/979603139849371649

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Apr 1, 2018 at 9:59:35 AM
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It's live!

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Apr 1, 2018 at 10:04:43 AM
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w00t!

Apr 1, 2018 at 10:09:54 AM
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Nabbed one when it went live. It didn't bill me the extra for intl. shipping, so I've sent the maker a message to ask how they want to handle that.

Thanks for the heads up again OP!

Apr 1, 2018 at 5:37:24 PM
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It appears to be up still

Edit: Actually it's sold out, like 2 hours ago. My bad.


Edited: 04/01/2018 at 05:47 PM by Soma

Apr 1, 2018 at 7:10:54 PM
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I just came across this, but looks like it's gone. Cool to see new releases. Hopefully the creator will create more in the future!

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Missed it! I should probably get on NA more often. Who knows how many quality Homebrews I've missed in my time of absence. If anyone here's more info on these releases please let me know by quoting me in. TY in advance.

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Originally posted by: TheCavalry

Nabbed one when it went live. It didn't bill me the extra for intl. shipping, so I've sent the maker a message to ask how they want to handle that.

Thanks for the heads up again OP!



Did you get a response about the additional shipping? I was curious about this too, and he keeps posting about overseas shipping on his Twitter, but my translations are super broken.

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Originally posted by: Soma
 
Originally posted by: TheCavalry

Nabbed one when it went live. It didn't bill me the extra for intl. shipping, so I've sent the maker a message to ask how they want to handle that.

Thanks for the heads up again OP!



Did you get a response about the additional shipping? I was curious about this too, and he keeps posting about overseas shipping on his Twitter, but my translations are super broken.
He contacted me about it via the Email address associated with my PayPal account, asking him to pay the additional 440yen for additional postage. Just thought PayPal again with the same email address associated with the first transaction.

Maybe it went to your spam? If I am not mistaken though, he did say on Twitter that if the remaining people did not get in touch about additional shipping costs, he would just send it via slow mail (https://twitter.com/tuliphouseRadio/status/980991610606399488).

 

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Apr 3, 2018 at 10:37:58 AM
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I also received a mail about the additional shipping, fyi. If you did not, you could still just send him the extra shipping directly to his PayPal.

Apr 3, 2018 at 11:55:02 AM
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I gifted him the $5 for shipping. There are people in the States that would've charged me $8-15.

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My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at the Let's Play Gaming Expo last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

Oh, my WTB thread is very popular. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wastoids, dweebies, Richard craniums - they all adore it. They think it's a righteous thread.
I'd also like to add that I've got my father's gun and a *scorching* price guide for aftermarket Nintendo games.
Between Dragon Warriors and nothing... I'll take Dragon Warriors - for any of my FT/FS/FO items.