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Can NA beat every Game Boy game in a year? - 2019 USA: 190/497: 38.23% -- PAL: 14/69: 20.29%

Jul 19 at 12:53:59 PM
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Oy FloatingPlatforms, I've never played Radar Mission, but I will give it a go and see if I find anything. I recommend that you look for longplays on youtube too if you haven't, often times even more obscure games have full playthroughs on there, you might learn some tips and tricks.

On completion note, I finished Tetris Plus. Great puzzle game, I have it on PSX too and it's a nice port of the arcade. I started playing Gauntlet 2 and Side Pocket, the latter is really hard. Actually thought it would be fun to do 2-player of Gauntlet, if anybody here has free time and an open schedule. Last I checked, there's a network-enabled offshoot of VBA that should do the trick.

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Jul 19 at 7:26:53 PM
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This was my first time playing through and beating "Spot the Cool Adventure". This was miserable. The controls and music were so bad. It's also really choppy. There is also a frustrating turbo tunnel style level right before the boss. And wow the final and only bossfight sucks so hard. You just wait around hoping the boss doesnt jump on you. You have to wait until the block decides to show up. Then you have to throw it at him 13 times!! Beat this on my last life with 99 coins. Wow was I lucky

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Nice job guys. Tetris Plus.... I considered myself good at Tetris until I hit a brick wall in the last world, a couple years ago. I just couldn't get the blocks down fast enough. Maybe I'll try again... next year.

Lol how did Spot get 3 games on the GB?? I was going to make a joke about playing McDonaldLand next, as another shameless advertisement in the form of a video game. But it looks like McDonaldland is just a re-sprite of Spot the Cool Adventure  

Jul 19 at 8:37:16 PM
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It's a tricky game, you can't play tetris like you normally would, instead you have to focus really carefully on laying blocks so that you don't accidentally cover up holes on the next row.

I started playing Battleship today as well, it's something I waste my time on while I'm browsing the net. Game is just way too long and slow for its own good, I hope the game doesn't take very long to reach the final level.

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Jul 21 at 1:26:14 PM
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I did do a search for the Game B specifically on youtube, but you're right Koifish, I should expand to see if any of the more generically named videos have clues, too! I'm pretty sure I'm going to just accept that second best ending for the time being and then revisit later on. I'm having a tough time getting the math to work. I'm looking to get Game A done on the hardest difficulty this week.

I played Battleship last year and I personally loved it with the gradual changes. It does take a while to get through all the stages since you have to luck into a beatable AI sometimes (Since they can use more special weapons than you). It took me about 12.5 hours, but I'm not great at games in general.

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Jul 22 at 12:26:05 PM
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I beat Casino Funpak.


Jul 22 at 2:52:50 PM
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That's a funny ending screen. Evokes a feeling like "Oops, the bank is broken. Better hide the broken bank before your parents find out and ground you."

Is anybody playing The Flintstones? I decided to try it out earlier and think it seems pretty good, wondering why it shows as having never been cleared.

Also on the Never Cleared list is a totally overlooked game, Power Mission, which might be one of the least-remembered games in the entire library. You can't find much of anything out there about this game. The only comment I've seen indicates that it has cheating AI, I hope that doesn't mean it is difficult/impossible to beat in the single-player mode.



 

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Jul 22 at 9:47:53 PM
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I've heard that Power Mission is a difficult monster.  According to this other twitch streamer trying the challenge, it was one of the hardest he's played so far out of nearly 200 and he had to modify requirements to "beat" it, because he thought it was impossible to finish with that AI.  I don't have have a cartridge yet to try for myself, but I think what he said was that your fleet keeps depleting with each round and their forces get tougher.  I'd be interested to hear your thoughts if you do try yourself.

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Jul 23 at 12:33:04 PM
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I may find out soon. I still have to try radar mission though  

As for Tetris 2, I'm confused about the goal. Is it to clear the puzzle mode stages? Those say "moves remaining" in the bottom right hand of the screen, is that's what is referred to in the description for the game listing?

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Jul 23 at 2:37:42 PM
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Tetris 2... So on the SNES version (don't know about NES) as soon as you use up the "minimum" moves, you're not allowed to continue, you have to try again until you've solved it with the minimum. But GB lets you keep going, potentially solving some puzzles with more than the minimum. After you get through the puzzles, you see a screen showing a list of the puzzles, with a little icon next to the ones that were solved using the minimum moves. I've never done them all myself, and I don't know if anything happens when you do it, so I'm open to changing the requirement to something better.

According to the NES thread, in the NES version you get kicked back to the Title screen after level 80 in the main game. I don't know if the GB version does this, but we could use that as the requirement if it does.

Jul 23 at 3:47:57 PM
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After a few days away, I'm still plugging away at Radar Mission. I couldn't find any new hints on YT for Game B, sadly. Game A will take a lot of luck. I'm again making things difficult on myself with using all items/powerups and largest field size for both sides and using the hardest opponent. It'll happen eventually!

I was curious about Tetris 2 since it shows someone beat it for GB, but I guess in 2015 it was a different requirement. They only say that they beat all 30 stages & no screenshot. I was thinking about trying to go back to those old threads some day and seeing what kind of tips & hints might be there and log them somewhere. Not sure how to structure or distribute it, but the thought is there at least. Time to follow-up on it is not.

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Jul 23 at 4:21:32 PM
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Yeah dude, I've wanted to gather all that info too. I could make a thread for it on NA, which would work fine for as long as I'm around to maintain it. But if I vanish or get banned or something, then what? Maybe someone else can copy the info into another thread, or maybe mods can somehow transfer the authorship/ownership of it to someone else? No idea. A Google doc might be ok too, with lots of us as editors. Ideally something transferable to whoever is participating in the Beat Every GB Game 2119 thread. Hmm. I'll start compiling info and work out the details later. I should also save all the screenshots so that they don't vanish (...until I do.)

Jul 23 at 7:49:52 PM
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^Brock was doing something like that for the SNES thread. I agree that tips, hints, strats, and nuances are very much worth documenting! I don't have a tremendous amount of keen insight to contribute, but I can at least remember some details of the various tennis games...

Jul 23 at 9:00:45 PM
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If you want to make a document covering how to beat some of these games, then I'd be up for it. It could be like we are creating a new strategy guide for all the Game Boy games we play here. That could be really cool!

On the note of completion, I think I utterly obliterated Super Off-Road. I have maxed out everything, I'm in first by a good 1600 points or so, and I have fully maxed out my nitro count (x99) more than once. I was a bit confused originally, I had thought there was an "end" where you got to 32 levels, but I think I was mistaking it for another racing game. Either way, I played through 30+ stages and maxed out everything, I've definitely seen every track and every configuration, so I think that's a finish.

Turns out that this one is not very good if you've played the arcade version.The game plays and controls sluggishly, probably as best as they could do on original game boy (though I do wonder if it couldn't have been done better). Worse still, it doesn't even have multiplayer! That to me is a real loss, considering how important that was for the arcade version. I also feel like you have a huge disadvantage against the enemy racers before you have boosted your stats, and since money earnings are directly tied to how well you place in the race, it's a pretty hard slope to climb at first. I was really frustrated until I finally scraped together the cash.

My tips for the game are:
  • Avoid walls and other cars as much as possible. This game doesn't play fair, and will often punish you severely for collisions, while the other trucks will barely ever be seriously affected.
  • If you hit a wall and get stuck, do not press A or B. Release both buttons, and use the d-pad to slowly turn your car back around in the right direction. Only then should you keep driving (also, a nitro here will often help you get back up to speed, but don't nitro if it will just send you into another wall).
  • Start out only spending most of your money, hold onto 10%-30% for future rounds so you can save up for the more expensive bonuses.
  • Always try to have several nitro, 5 minimum is a great number, but do what you can given your means. Nitro at the right time will make all the difference in the world.
  • Max out your top speed as quickly as possible, this is the biggest game changer for overcoming the computer racers.
  • Focus then on acceleration to help when you hit walls or slow down.
  • If you are having trouble on turns, then consider slowing down (just stop holding A as there is no brake button), or start buying tire/shocks since they help you to grip the road and to take tighter turns respectively.
  • There's one track, (I'll have to look up the name), it's just a bunch of zig-zag hills. I don't think you can really win on that one, it's nearly impossible to avoid walls or other trucks, and they will just breeze on by. My advice on that track is to just hang on for dear life, and try to finish 3rd or higher so that you don't lose a credit.
  • There's another track (I'll have to look that one up too) which has bad lap completion detection. The track is contains one path divided into two halves, but at several points, the halves connect, and it is possible to "skip" from the first half to the second, or vice-versa. DO NOT DO THIS! Even just driving a little bit too far off of your current section of track will cause the game to think that you never completed that specific section, meaning all the lap work done after that section (potentially an entire lap's worth) will be ignored by the game. My only advice is to play it very strict, and only stay on the track section which matches your current lap progress. DO NOT attempt to skip, you will just be wasting time.
  • Nitro Tip: If you have maxed out all other stats, then remember this: A first place finish gives you 150,000, which is enough to buy 15 nitro. Therefore, as long as you use less than 15 nitro per race, and still take first, you can keep on spending all of your money on nitro, and your stockpile won't decrease.
  • Super Tip: If you are ever desperate to win, and if you have a LOT of nitro (at least 20-30), you can rocket to first place pretty easily if you just spend nitro constantly. Even in some tight corners you can  nitro spam into the turn, start the turn, slam into the wall from going too fast, and then immediately nitro from there, and you will lose almost no speed. I only recommend doing this if you are nearly finished with the game, if you have every other upgrade maxed out, and if the only thing left for you to buy is nitro.

On my continued fronts, Flintstones is about halfway done, and Battleship is about a quarter of the way done. I also picked up Ninja Boy 2 again. Battleship is still just a little tedious to me, you basically just have to get lucky on killing the submarine, everything else is pretty easy. Sometimes though, the AI just guesses too well and destroys all of your ships too quickly. Ninja Boy 2 is actually really ramping up to me. It's like a weird fusion of side-scrolling beat'em-up and RPG, and to me it is a lot less "wonky" feeling than the first Ninja Boy (which incidentally, has the same main character and also features punching, but is a level-based top-down action game, with warps and powerful hidden items and everything you'd expect of a mid-80 famicom-style game). I see now how Culture Brain has a bit of a reputation for doing unorthodox game designs. It also kind of feels like a time capsule of how things changed in game design, Ninja Boy being like early Famicom (almost a bizarre fusion of Mario and Zelda) and then Ninja Boy 2 being more of a story-driven adventure (feels like a strange fusion of dragon quest and kunio-kun). Flintstones is...strange, just has a lot of weird stuff going on. I want to finish it before I say anymore.

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Jul 24 at 5:13:03 PM
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I'm going through previous years and gathering up all the tips and tricks I can find. Those early years were pretty barebones, not much discussion. Most of the posts I've read so far are just "I beat X." I had wanted to scoop up every little thing, like a complete history of each game, but I agree it should be more like Brock's SNES thread, focused on tips for playing/beating each game. Sort of an abbreviated GameFaqs, made by us. So I'll put what I find into one big post and anyone who wants to contribute can add stuff. Give me a few more days.

I fired up Tamagotchi a few days ago, thinking it would be easy but boring. I raised a weird-looking thing to adulthood and finished a tournament, and nothing at all happened. I don't even know why there are tournaments. It doesn't feel like I "beat" the game. Reading up online, apparently there is no end point at all, and even if you take perfect care of your Tamagotchi, it will just suddenly die one day for no reason, and there's nothing to be done except hatch another egg. There are different kinds of Tamagotchi that you can get, maybe there's something to be said for getting them all? I'll keep digging, but I'm already leaning toward "there's nothing more to do in the game that isn't 100%ing it for no recognition." It's not like the keychain Tamagotchi things could be "beaten," you were supposed to just always start a new one when yours died.

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That was my perception of tamagotchi as well. The best you could do is try to raise every kind of tamagotchi, which I think I based specifically on how you feed/train/raise it, but I don't remember a lot of the FAQ that I read on the subject.

The Flintstones is done. In all honesty, what a ride. I don't know if it's based on the live action movie or something, but it is really off the wall. The plot is insane, the worlds are bizarre, and really, what other game allows you to play as Betty Rubble?

I was apprehensive when I saw Ocean's name on this game, due to them also publishing Puggsly's Scavenger Hunt, but this one is pretty good. I'd strongly recommend Flintstones to anybody wanting a decent GB platformer which they likely haven't played before.

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Jul 25 at 12:56:55 PM
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I have a few things to discuss today:

First, street fighter 2 is done. Yet another game boy fighting game which can be broken in half with basic spamming techniques. I chose Ryu and successfully defeated every opponent using jump kicks, standing kicks, and crouch kicks, usually in that order. As an additional knock against this game (and one in support of the SNK ports for game boy), this one is much more choppy in play. The SNK ports, such as World Heroes 2 Jet and King of Fighters: The Heat of Battle have much smoother framerates and play much better as a result. Perhaps this is because of the smaller character sprites as they went for a super-deformed style in those games, while capcom went for full-size characters in SF2. Either way, just spam kicks and you will win.

Second, which dragon is "the" Dragon in Gauntlet 2? I found one which was two tiles wide and which blocked the exit while spewing fireballs. Upon defeating it, the game said "ah, I have not seen such bravery!". Is that the dragon to beat, or is there another one? If that's it, then I've cleared that game as well, this morning since I woke up early. I'll put up pics later for reference.

The last and most intriguing point to me is regarding golf games. I am fairly certain, having now tried them both, that "Golf Classic" and "Sports Illustrated Golf Classic" , are in fact the same game, with only minor title screen edits between them. I haven't fully played them to confirm, but I have seen that beyond the title screen having a logo change (one says "golf classic" and the other says "sports illustrated golf classic" ), the credits, menus, character select, options, course select, and several of the holes on each course (I say several because I have not checked every hole, but all the ones I checked were the same), as well as music and graphics, are all identical. Unfortunately I have a hard time even finding good footage of the games online, so I may have to make some of my own to offer comparison footage. Either way, I think I am seeing this correctly. Based on that, I think only one game would be included in the challenge, since that rule has applied for other games which are the same across multiple different carts.

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Originally posted by: koifish

I have a few things to discuss today:

First, street fighter 2 is done. Yet another game boy fighting game which can be broken in half with basic spamming techniques. I chose Ryu and successfully defeated every opponent using jump kicks, standing kicks, and crouch kicks, usually in that order. As an additional knock against this game (and one in support of the SNK ports for game boy), this one is much more choppy in play. The SNK ports, such as World Heroes 2 Jet and King of Fighters: The Heat of Battle have much smoother framerates and play much better as a result. Perhaps this is because of the smaller character sprites as they went for a super-deformed style in those games, while capcom went for full-size characters in SF2. Either way, just spam kicks and you will win.

Second, which dragon is "the" Dragon in Gauntlet 2? I found one which was two tiles wide and which blocked the exit while spewing fireballs. Upon defeating it, the game said "ah, I have not seen such bravery!". Is that the dragon to beat, or is there another one? If that's it, then I've cleared that game as well, this morning since I woke up early. I'll put up pics later for reference.

The last and most intriguing point to me is regarding golf games. I am fairly certain, having now tried them both, that "Golf Classic" and "Sports Illustrated Golf Classic" , are in fact the same game, with only minor title screen edits between them. I haven't fully played them to confirm, but I have seen that beyond the title screen having a logo change (one says "golf classic" and the other says "sports illustrated golf classic" ), the credits, menus, character select, options, course select, and several of the holes on each course (I say several because I have not checked every hole, but all the ones I checked were the same), as well as music and graphics, are all identical. Unfortunately I have a hard time even finding good footage of the games online, so I may have to make some of my own to offer comparison footage. Either way, I think I am seeing this correctly. Based on that, I think only one game would be included in the challenge, since that rule has applied for other games which are the same across multiple different carts.

1) Great job, I've never been able to give more than a few minutes to any fighting game on GB (except Killer Instinct, when that was the only game I had for it  ) I always think "there's gotta be a cheap way to cheese my way through this" but I never end up being able to find it for any game.

2) Yes, that is "the" Dragon. I've marked you down as beating Gauntlet II. Anything to avoid having "loop all 999 levels" as the requirement, especially when they are randomly generated.

3) You're right about Golf Classic, and that's why Golf Classic was never included in the PAL list in the first post. I wonder if you saw it in a different list, or mistook another golf game for Golf Classic?
 

Jul 25 at 2:54:10 PM
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Alright, hey cool, good stuff. My bad on golf classic, I swore that I grabbed that name oriignally from looking at the list, but lo and behold, it isn't there. My bad! I have a bad habit of adopting tunnel vision when I find things like that, and then the obvious answers escape me as I zoom right by. D'oh! Either way, it's all good, especially as that means one less golf game to finish  

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Jul 25 at 4:41:23 PM
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I promise I didn't just delete it and then call you crazy.  

Jul 25 at 5:36:10 PM
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We'll see about that, I'll get a time travel expert on the case shortly.

Speaking of time travel, since we are now entering the last third of the year, are there any notable games in the "not cleared" list that are particularly known to be difficult or frustrating? I might like to take on one of the hard ones if it means getting some progress on the heavier hitters. The only one that sticks out to me right now is Batman Forever, that game just feels like a mess to get through. It makes sense that no one ever cleared it.

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Jul 25 at 8:27:48 PM
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what level does the dragon occur at? gauntlet 2 doesn't have much good info out there.

Jul 25 at 9:29:48 PM
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Well for me it showed up on level 13 or 15, I don't remember exactly but it was one of the two. Gauntlet 2 loads levels at random after a bit, so it's hard to say where it would be.

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For Gauntlet 2, what I know of it is that there are 99 or 100 different levels and then at 101, it will start recycling stages randomly. I think last year, there was the decision to make the win condition to beat the dragon that can show up randomly after a certain point.

Speaking of golf games, I have PGA Tour '96 coming up next if I can ever luck my way into a victory in Game A of Radar Mission. I'd probably have it by now if each attempt wasn't 20-30 minutes.

I was thinking of the master list of hints thing. Would it be out of line or against the rules to suggest setting up a wiki? That could allow different sections and screenshots, formatting and whatnot. I could probably look into that in August if it might sound good.

Koifish, if you want some tougher/longer/most annoying games, here are some of the 4 point games that I've heard can give quite a bit of grief. Some of them are just because there's no saves or passwords:
Fighting Simulator 2-in-1 Flying Warriors
Hyper Lode Runner
Power Mission
Q*Bert (mostly for no saves/pw - but believe it has unlimited continues)
Side Pocket
Square Deal (no saves/pw - limited continues - very luck based but requires perfection in later levels)
Turn and Burn: F-14 Dogfight Simulator (can't find any indication how many missions there actually are - this might be endless?)

Good luck if you try to take them on!

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Radar Mission is actually finally done.  On Game A, I beat Admiral Volcano with all specials on for both of us and starting grid of 12x12.  It required a lot of luck, really and many days of attempts.  My final run saw me beat round 2 in only 5 shots (got a black star on my first and took a random shot that destroyed 3 of their 4, then found the last ship on my next random shot). Honestly, as close to perfect as possible.  The third run took a tad longer, but I again destroyed 3 ships at once with the lucky star shot early on.


Game B, I tried for a few days and like I said, I can't get the math to work in a way that would allow me to get the very best ending. Still, I beat it on hard and got the second best ending a few different times.  I'm calling it there for now. I plan to revisit it down the line at some point to finally crack that final point plateau.  Still, it's a really fun game overall (but I like Battleship, which is what Game A is).  Game B was also a blast and a neat arcade like shooter thing.  Pretty dang good graphics for an early GB title as well.


I'm happy it's done, but I'd certainly recommend it and I never got sick of it throughout all those tries.
As I said a little earlier, my next game will be PGA Tour '96, but I won't get to that until early August.

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