Thank you, 

Brion Sohn

Funny.. Actually I seriously doubt it... I did ask Dain a question about it as I assume that it may only be in the White Seal ones.. If he thinks it may be in all it almost makes me want to play it over just to find out.. But then again maybe not.. 

Thank you for the bid...

Brion

I received a request for the ability to make a private bid. And then I thought about it as with the bid not being listed it could be construed as shilling.. so that is why I put the condition on the bid that any PM will be kept private, however, if someone asks to see the bid I will fwd the copy of the PM'd bid to the requester. (you would be losing your anonymousness to the requester of the message)

I did not see anything in the FAQ (updated version) requiring open bids (but maybe I missed it). If that is a common consensus then I will pull anonymous bidding and it is something that should be added to the FAQ. There is still time in which this change will not affect anything.

please PM Me with your views on this so as not to confuse the thread.. If it should be added as such to the FAQ please contact Dain as well.

Currently i see this as more of a detriment to the seller (me) than the buyer as a bid placed by PM if not placed on the board by me fast enough it could limit the top amount that a I could get..  matched bids would still be determined by timestamp in the end. Bids would be posted to the list as anonymous.

There are currently none so changes would be easy.

Brion

Brion

If you wish to place a bid anonymously please request a friend place the bid and in the post say something like "This Item for $$$$ for an anonymous bidder".  That way it will be anonymous from even me until the end in which I will then be able to get the name from the poster.

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Thank you for your understanding on this.. 

Brion Sohn...

Boy, I just seem to be pushing all the boundaries here.. Anyway I have sent a message to Dain to clear that up as I cannot find anything in the FAQ's regarding second accounts and have noted such in my original post as this note flipped pages.

Brion

Brion

Here is my explanation of the above as being interpreted as I don't want anyone to think I am being disrespectful or anything.. i am just trying to figure out how to make it so everyone Myself and others on this site understands all that can be done or can't be...

The message to Dain was sent prior to reading the section of the FAQ in question.

As for the FAQ ( I did miss that section the first time) I understand that section of the FAQ to pertain to keeping people from messing with one another by using two personas to either gang up and or fool another member which is disruptive and requires action, hence, the naming as Sock Puppeteering as you are controlling the other account much like a sock puppet. However, because of its wording it doesn't really pertain to what would be a second private account for Anonymous bidding which would be a personal thing such as having two email accounts,  a public one and a private.. that is all I was trying to say. I was a little short in my response though because I really waned to wait for the final word on multiple accounts before anything else.

I now understand the whole symbol thing for moderators which is different than most forums I frequent which normally just plaster moderator under the name of the person who is the moderator. 

It seems like I am just bringing up questions which really have not been worked out and probably should be.. The only reason why I brought this up is I was trying to figure out ways of allowing anonymous bidding in a public setting. The only true way would be a second account or a trigger on your current account to allow posts without name tagging. Having a friend bid is only semi-anonymous but it is a good option.

Unfortunately, I have been given mis-information as well as conflicting information about things on this site from users and moderators (not knowing they were moderators at the time) so I am just trying to find out the true answers and also trying to figure out the easiest method by which users of the forum can do certain things. While keeping things transparent to other users. This is why I decided not to keep PM bidding as it is not transparent in that everyone knows when a bid is placed and for what amount. With this it removes anonymity so I am just trying to figure out how that option can be regained for all to use when they see fit.

Brion

No Multiple accounts for any reason. I have suggested a FAQ change to him to actually state that rather than the more vague. "for the sole purpose of" and May get banned" to read something like.

Multiple Accounts - No multiple accounts for any purpose. Multiple accounts that are found will be deleted. If determined that the account was used to disrupt the forum or for fraudulent purposes you WILL be banned.

I think that covers everything including sock puppetering.

So to emphasize per Dain there are NO multiple accounts.

ANYWay.. now that all of this is sorted. back to the actual topic at hand.. THE AUCTION...

Happy Bidding

Brion

The unfortunate thing is that if it is to be used as base reference for rules and actions then it really needs to be as specific as possible regarding things. From what I read most everything looks pretty good and is straight forward. That area with the multiple account just left a bunch of questions as it was indicated under a prohibited action not under a specific line item about multiple accounts. The auction issues originally were becasue there there really were no laid out rules for an auction on the site via the FAQ. So unfortunately (or fortunately) I pushed the bounds of the understood.  I can truly understand this because from what I can judge by reading over the forums the NA Auction section is not all that old.

I just hope all of this benefits the entire community in the end.

Again I am sorry if I frustrated anyone as well as the moderators in my quest to figure things out.

If you feel that I can be of benefit in working out a set of rules or FAQ adjustments please let me know. I will be happy to do so. It is the least I can do after causing sections to be questioned or added.

Brion