I understand your offer since its dirty and you are trying to get a good deal, but a helpful hint:

Dont ever try to explain a lowball offer in an intial offer. People do not want to here there stuff is worthless, even though actually a genesis and ps1 arent worthless if they have the cords and work. Genesis systems actually sell quite well for 35-40 bucks with a sonic 2 and all the cords. Sold consoles only pretty easy for 25 shipped each. Just remember people are emotional and sometimes attached to their stuff. In an initial offer you can lowball but dont explain why. Ive lost some good deals by doing what you just did. Just some helpful advice that I have learned. You can always send them the lowball offer, and if they dont agree then you can explain if you really want it.

I'd almost completely agree on that one, Jeff. Sometimes getting (or not getting) a lot for a good price depends on your word choice, intonation, and phrasing.

I'm going to give you a couple examples of the same exact offer (as an email/text response), tell me which one you would take:

1) $45

2) ill pay u 45 bux

3) Hi! Sounds like you have some really cool stuff there. I think I could buy them from you for $40-$45. I can pick them up if you're local, too. Thanks, hope to hear from you soon!

4) Hi XXXXXX. I looked through your list of games and I could offer you $45 for everything. The old PS1 systems are hard to even give away and the Genesis is almost the same way. Let me know what you can do, thanks!

ETA:  I strongly prefer making deals over the phone or in person.  I've been in sales-oriented work my entire life, and even though you're the one paying - you're still in a sales role.  You're selling this guy on giving you his stuff at a price you want.  I really feel I could get almost anything for the right price given an in-person or phone conversation.

Something that really ticks me off is when you are selling something through auction and you get a real lowball offer (in this case it was less than half what it ended at). I reply, no thanks I'll take my chances with the auction but please bid as you may get it for that; then I get an angry response. How dare I want to make money and not help a reseller get a great deal.

Theirs more shit in this thread about ebay alone and shit then the other 3 sites combined.

I hate ebay... too many idiots... non payers, and noobs.

Craigslist is a bunch of tire kickers and scammers...

That is why I started my own auction site...

We will see what happens.

Another rant to throw on the pile, this time Goodwill. Yes, we all know and love good ol Goodwill. Its a good place you take your junk and they sell if for cheap, right? Arent they a Not-For-Profit too?? Well guess again...

I bought something from them on ebay a couple weeks ago, a strategy guide. It cost $4.39 with free shipping. Sounded decent and with no picture it was worth a gamble. No big deal really so I go ahead and pay since it was a BIN. They refunded my money the next day telling me it was sold already. It IS Goodwill so its possible this happened, no beef.

Fast forward to today. Well since I didnt get that Strat guide I still want to get one. Im browsing eBay and find one thats too expensive but I look anyways. Its good ol Goodwillbk again, with the same guide but $10 MORE. They now raised it to $14.46. Are they really in the business to screw people over now or is it greedy bastards running the eBay page that get a cut of sales? This really annoys me cause, well, they get the shit FOR FREE. Im not blaming eBay on this one, its all the sellers fault and the seller is GoodWillBK.

Non-profit, or for-profit - that is total bullshit. If you make a mistake, you deal with it.

Sometimes when I'm listing, after I put in my price, some weird thing happens and the BIN price becomes $1.00.

I ended up selling a SMB2 cart for $1.00 shipped due to that error once. Sometimes you take one for the team, even though mine was an honest error, not an instance where I said: "Oh, I could have got a lot more for this!"

It's greed. I'm at the point where I don't want to support them with donations anymore, and I've always been against the online arm of their business. It used to be that you could get decent deals from them, but now they jack up AS IS stuff to full market value--it's a joke.

With a reseller at least you're getting something that was tested, and they might be making as little as $5 profit. Looked at in this context I can only imagine the killing that Goodwill managers must make on their free inventory.

In-person is the best way to roll I think; unless the game lot is a no-brainer I don't like making offers without seeing the condition.

Wow, funniest thing just happened. Well before this Goodwill crap, I had bought the same strat guide on eBay and it got lost in the mail. That seller refunded my money as soon as I said something (I was impressed). Thats why I bought it from GW. Well, the copy that was lost form the original sale showed up today!! Isnt that nuts? Ill be contacting the first seller and resending them the money for it. I told them I would if it were ever to show up and that actually happened. I thought it was lost in the abyss of USPS.

But I still stand by my original point, fuck GoodwillBK on eBay. Id post this in the HoS but I dont know if that thread has been straightened out yet, lol.

Dude I know exactly what your saying. Ill type in like 13.99 and click the next thing and it changes to 13.00. or ill type 89.99 and itll say 80.00. Ebays system has been glitching like crazy, and there pic uploader might be the worst online. I wish I could let another site host my main image. It would be so much faster.

So I just ordered Bram Stoker's Dracula for the NES on Amazon and the dumbass seller sent me the bluray sealed. Funny thing is that the bluray is worth about half what I paid for the NES game. Now the hassle of either getting my money back or doing an exchange. I bet the retard doesn't even have the NES version though.

wow that sucks. lol they better not ask you for a dime in the exchange. Return shipping sucks when the seller sends the wrong item. I usually just say keep it if its under 15-20 bucks and if its over pay the return shipping. Amazon handles it differently when its directly from them, but never had to do an exchange from a regular seller on there.

Last time something like that happened to me the seller shipped me the correct item plus a pre-paid mailer for the return. Chances are if they don't give a refund or attempt to make things right at no cost to you, you'll be able to launch right into a claim and snag yourself easy justice that way.

Host images through photobucket, then upload them via url to eBay?  That's what I do.

You should update 38 items to meet Top-rated seller service requirements and get discounts.

F**k you Ebay.

This.

I spoke to a supervisor at eBay on this.

You have until 11:59pm the next business day to upload tracking info.  Which means 1-day handling can actually be 2-day handling if you print your own labels.

I figured this out and that part's not too bad.  But, still very frustrated about the 14-day return policy. I already had a customer pull a PCB switch on me, and I can't prove it because I don't even have time to photograph the underside of a game disc, much less take apart a cartridge and document the intracies of a circuit board.  I'd love to find a very subtle way to "stamp" the PCB without opening it up.  Maybe a dab of acrylic paint on the edge?  I have really stretched my brain trying to figure this out.

ebay can be a pain in the ass. So i got a good deal on a Mario Kart 64 in the original box for $13. I open the package yesterday and it is Mario Party 2 cart only with a Mario Party manual. I know Mario Party 2 is a more expensive game but I was kinda looking forward to playing Mario Kart. The seller thinks he may have switched packages so now i get to deal with this.

I do that. Im talking about the auction primary photo. There uploader at times runs painfully slow

I want to put this out there as this is some new form of shipping fraud going on with ebay sellers. I had this happen to me with Quest 64 which I won for $3 and $4 for USPS Priority Mail Envelope shipping.

That Quest 64 game on ebay I won a few days ago for $7 shipped I never saw a tracking on it so I asked.

I got this comment in return:
Please note that in the est. delivery time it states 33-35 bussniess days.


I had no idea it would take that long because the estimator is what it is. I wrote him back saying I hope that it doesn't take that long. I can't see why something going out standard mail would take a month. I called ebay to ask about it. It stumped the rep. It appears that the seller is actually committing fraud both on myself and ebay as it violates their TOS. The interesting fact is since they set a 1month out HANDLING date ebay's own system won't allow for a case to be opened up against the seller, nor will it allow a cancellation and refund. They told me to either wait the period out, or strongly suggested I open up a paypal claim against the seller to get my cash back faster. The rep at ebay was annoyed someone figured this out and submitted it to their supervisor in hopes of having a system update blocking people from using 1mo of handling because officially it's only allowed for preorders on new items.

Basically people can get you to pay premium shipping due to a flaw in the ebay shipping setup and then make you wait as long as they like with the 'HANDLING' of it until they want to send it. In this case they think they can hold my cash for a month and then deliver which means they don't have it (likely), lazy, or selling while away. eBay called it fraud and escalated it internally for their systems people via the supervisor. Keep an eye out on handling times as they may change on you after the fact.

People would do anything for a dollar. It stumps me to even think someone would be fine with a one month handling time. 

Holy shit, I am really getting tired of brainless fucks on Craigslist. Will everyone please send this guy a text and ask what games are included???

http://oklahomacity.craigslist.or...

Here is out text conversation

Me:Can you send me a list of the NES games you have for sale? Thanks.

Him:Are you wanting the whole system and all?

Me:Maybe, I would like to know what games are included.

Him:Well I'm selling it all together, you take one piece you take it all, are you local OKC?

Me:I am local, can you send me a list?

Him:I really don't have time, if your'e serious and want to meet we can do that.
(Are you fucking kidding me??? You only have 15 games and can't send me a list???)

Me:If you don't have a list to send to me then I am not interested, sorry.

Him:You can't meet up?

Me:Not without knowing if what you have is what I am looking for.

Him:What are you looking for?

Me:Nevermind.

Him:I find it funny how it's all your way or the highway!

Him:Tell me what you're looking for and I will tell you if I have it.

Him:There;s way more that $100.00 worth here, I just need the space.

Him: My phones about to die, I can call you and tell you the games.

Me: OK

He calls...

SMB/DH
Silent Service
Popeye
Rampart
Kung Fu
Hogan's Alley
10 Yard Fight
Track & Field...some more worthless BS. Sometimes I underestimate how stupid people can be...

Haha wow - that's a good one!

Part of the game, bro - you won't be so angry with douchebags like that after you score a $1k lot for $100