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Vs. Balloon Fight Flyer Screenshots

Oct 18, 2015 at 4:22:21 PM
Bluestone19 (0)
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Hi!  I found an image of a flyer for Vs. Balloon Fight online, and there's 3 screenshots on the side.  They're pretty normal-looking, until you zoom in, when you realize there's loads of stuff in the pictures that are not in the final game (Birds facing the screen, the large platform in the water, the player facing the screen while still flying, and what seems to be a rocket/missle of some kind), yet the screenshots on the left show the system itself and actually has what appears to be the final game on the screens.  Is this flyer fake, and if not, is there ANY information about the development/prototypes of Vs. Balloon Fight?  I need to know because I run a wiki about Balloon Fight.  
EDIT: Also, is there anyone who could translate the flyer, if it is real?
EDIT 2:
Here's a list on things on the screenshots that don't seem to appear in-game:
-The extra life counter on the sides of the screen now have small icons of yellow balloons on both sides.
-There is a large red dot above the lower giant cloud in the top screenshot.  Possibly a frame of the lightning?  After all, lightning uses the Balloon Fighter palette in the NES version (Blue, Yellow/Skin, Red).
-There is a yellow "300" floating in the middle of the top screenshot.  It looks like the numbers that pop up when you hit an enemy, showing the points.  Maybe it would've changed color depending on the bird's color instead of the player?
-The top screenshot also shows a greenish-blue enemy with the balloon slightly more forward than usual.  Maybe their balloons would bob around like they do in the Balloon Fighter's idle animations at one point?
-In the middle screenshot, the red Balloon Fighter is facing the screen (Like when he's falling), but he still has one balloon.  In tingle's Balloon Fight (DS, Japan Club Nintendo only), Tingle will face the screen when he's turning.  That game seems to have taken alot of inspiration from Vs. Balloon Fight, too.
-In the middle screenshot, there's a rocket, which seems to use the Balloon Fighter palette.  I know that if you wait on a stage for a long time in the final game, an arrow will come from off screen to instantly kill you.  Possibly this is similar, or it's a special kind of enemy.  It should be noted that there is an opening on the top, possibly with a enemy inside.
-On the ground of the middle screenshot, there is a enemy, grounded, facing away from the screen.  This also appears in the bottom screenshot.
-The ground on the bottom of the level is now in the middle of the water, instead of on the sides of the screen.  It should be noted that the fish still appears on both sides (Seen in the middle/bottom screenshots)
-The ground also looks very different from the final in all three screenshots.
-There is no level number displayed, although all three screenshots seem to show different stages.
     -It should be noted that a number is not shown in the water for the level number in the first level, but later levels show the number.
-In the bottom screenshot, the parachuting enemies are facing the screen.  Nothing like this appears in the final game.
Also, there are two lines on the right of the bottom screenshot.  I have no idea what these can be.
EDIT 3:
http://flyers.arcade-museum.com/?...
On the bottom of this flyer, there's another screenshot showing the central ground and the missile thing.  However, the two screenshots by it seem to be from the final.  What's going on here?  In fact, it seems very similar to one screenshot from the other flyer.  Perhaps they were taken within a few seconds of eachother, or it was simply taken directly from there?  Also, on this flyer you can really see the difference between this seemingly-prototype version and the final.  The first and last screenshots seem final, the middle is definitely not, though.  You can see clearly the change in how the ground looks.
EDIT 4:
Can someone examine the files for Vs. Balloon Fight?  Look through the tiles/graphics, and also if possible look for unused entities or code that would indicate some kind of remnant of the stuff in the screenshots.  I know that Balloon Fight on the NES has unused graphics for stuff in the arcade game (End tickets, ceiling blocks, etc.), so maybe there are some remaining graphics from the prototype in the final game of Vs. Balloon Fight?  Otherwise, could someone at least tell me how to view the graphics and code for the game?  
Update: I have actually looked through the graphics of the game and found no trace of anything from the prototype, at least from what I saw. There are some interesting things:
  • In the tiles for the title screen, next to the tiles for the "1" and "2" buttons is a out of place sprite of the Balloon Fighter, just standing. It's only tiles for that specific frame and no other tiles of the character. Perhaps there was an icon of the balloon fighter on the mode select screen at one point?
  • In the in-game tileset there were 3 tiles side-by-side which were all identical, and were of just a generic block-looking thing.
  • There is actually a duplicate sprite of the arrow, for the frame where it is most visible.
EDIT 5:
Sorry about all the edits.  Could someone also find an approximate date of when this flyer was released?  I know the game itself came out around 1984 for the VS. System, so it would make sense to have beta images if the game was then unreleased.  However, it might be more interesting if this came out afterward.  Maybe they thought no one would notice?  I'd also appreciate if someone could make for certain that none of this stuff appears in the final at any point.  Also check the date for the other flyer I linked to with some final screenshots.   


Edited: 12/02/2015 at 10:16 PM by Bluestone19

Oct 20, 2015 at 11:21:05 PM
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Why would you think the flyer is fake? The game came out for the VS UNisystem in Japan.

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Oct 21, 2015 at 7:45:10 AM
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I just wasn't sure, since I found it via the "Always true" internet.

Oct 21, 2015 at 4:25:58 PM
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The same flyer is on arcadeflyers.com, it's legit.

I knew Vs. was a lot different than the home versions, but I didn't know about these early screenshots! Very cool look at an early version of a pretty important game.

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Nov 12, 2015 at 10:01:43 AM
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Hi,

Not sure if you're still looking for info on this, but I can translate the flyer for you. It's nothing too exciting, basically just: "pop your enemy's balloons from above while protecting your own - once enemies have fallen to the ground, push them into the water before they revive - get hit by lightning and lose a life".

However, there is an exact date listed on this flyer - October 3, 1984. The Famicom version was released on January 22, 1985, so these screens may indeed be from an early (or at least VS. system exclusive) version. The US version of the flyer, despite having a copyright date of 1984, was most likely printed in the first half of 1985. I base this on the fact that the Hogan's Alley and Duck Hunt title screens have 1985 dates, and that's definitely when those two were released in the US (they came out in Japan circa early/mid 1984). The US NES version of the game wasn't released until around September of 1986 or so. Nintendo's official date for it is June of that year, but in reality their third batch of releases (Gumshoe, Mach Rider, Urban Champion and Balloon Fight) was somewhat delayed and didn't actually make it into stores until between around August and November, depending on the title and area, possibly due to them having their attention diverted by the somewhat stuttering national launch campaign that they were finally rolling out in more major markets at the time.

By the way, you may want to check out the "NES Launch" thread I posted over in "Collector's Corner" last month, as it includes some photos of FAO Schwarz employees playing Balloon Fight when it had just been released.

Nov 13, 2015 at 4:54:22 PM
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This helps alot.  I'm just struggling to find a scrap of info on either Vs. Balloon Fight itself or the flyer, so the details with the flyer's print date are actually pretty important. Thank You!

Nov 13, 2015 at 6:20:00 PM
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Pretty cool flyer. An NES "VS. Balloon Fight" on retrousb would be even cooler

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Nov 13, 2015 at 6:24:32 PM
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Yeah, if only they could do something like that.  I'd buy it the second it went online.  But they'd still have to deal with the dual-screen issue... Maybe a way just to switch views using Select?

Feb 1, 2016 at 5:30:37 PM
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Bump. I'm still looking for some info, if it was unclear.

Feb 1, 2016 at 7:01:30 PM
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I don't have any particular info about this one, but just for some general advice when looking for pre-mass production versions of JP arcade games, you might have a little better luck searching for "location test" as opposed to prototype. In Japanese, the term would be ロケーションテスト (location test) or ロケテ (rokete - an abbreviated form). No idea if Nintendo did a location test for this game, but it'd be a start.

Feb 4, 2016 at 5:22:05 PM
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Thanks for the info. I remember hearing about the Virus/Dr. Mario prototype having location tests now, and I'll see if there's anything like that.