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Oct 18 at 11:30:00 AM
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Originally posted by: 1upped

What I take away as interest from the article is that the former owner(s) of some of those games basically named their price for what they had. Which has always been the difficulty/challenge in this market.....a lot (not all) true game collectors simply don't sell their stuff too easily. For what seems like forever, I've tried to pry a few rares out of collectors hands (true rares anyways) and I couldn't get them to even blink w/o an outrageous price attached to it......I've been much luckier just finding random buys from owners of games in that they didn't really have any nostalgia attached from them. A million bucks is insane though 😮
That’s the difference between the new comic collectors and video game collectors. We don’t have a price guide that tells us within a certain percentage what a game is worth. It’s worth what the owner will sell it for. For the most part. It’s the Wild West on some of this stuff. 

I’ll be honest, and I haven't said anything until now, but some of the new collectors have personally bad mouthed me for what I’ve asked for on some of my games. Here’s the deal, you want the highest graded copy of a first print Ice Climber, or Urban Champion? I’m going to ask an exorbitant amount if I’m attached to the game. I’m a COLLECTOR. You either pay it or you don’t. Doesn’t matter to me. No reason to whine about it to your buds or try to sway buyers away from me. It took me years to find some of these. And many I’ve had for years and years. There’s a value on that history alone. Go find another one at a better price. 

 

 

Oct 18 at 11:32:34 AM
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Originally posted by: tbone3969
 
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We're not the target audience for this article. The knowledge on this site far surpasses that of the author, "collectors" and resources used combined. Take what they're saying with a grain of salt.

As mentioned, it's not a $1M collection. That's like saying Atwood's collection is a few grand because that's what he paid. TBD is the correct answer.

The only part I took exception too was calling vvg an avid collector. That remains to be seen. An avid buyer, sure. Also, couldn't agree more with the liquidity comment. Seems to me someone came in 7-8 years ago and did something similar. Then couldn't move any of the games.

I sincerely hope he makes tons of money. All ships rise with the storm, but damn that is one crazy risky bet. All the best to him.
Hey there's people that blow a million dollars at a casino.  He has better odds here.  Still not a sure bet but I like his odds.

Look at this Derek Jeter card that just sold for $200,000.  Cards, comics, and games are all getting crazy now.  Where will it stop?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1996-Select-Certified-Mirror-Gold-D...

 

Agreed, but the safer bet is paying under market for lower end items. Paying well above market for 40-50 incredibly high-end games is incredibly risky. Not saying he isn’t going to cash in. Just making a point. Like I said, I sincerely hope he makes tons of money. 
 

Oct 18 at 11:53:02 AM
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Originally posted by: tbone3969
 
Originally posted by: guitarzombie

mark
noun. A person identified as an easy target, or "sucker". A mark is always the short end of a joke or scam, and is never let in on whats going on. A mark is usually being cheated out of money. It's origin is from old English traveling carnivals from the late 1800s to early 1900s, where workers would refer to people paying to see thier made up shows and games a "mark".
He could have the last laugh if he flips them for 3 million in five years.  If game collecting goes the way of comics and cards, which I think it will, then he made a great investment IMO.
It's one thing to think the hobby as a whole will go a certain way.  But all along that way, individual titles will spike and fall.  And niche items are always hard to sell regardless.

Also, stuff doesn't always move at the same rates.  $100 games?  Any collector can afford that if they needed too.  $1000 games?  People get more selective, some drop out due to cost.  $10,000 games?  Same thing, even less buyers in the pool.  $100,000 games?  $1,000,000 games?  Basically no one.

So, you could live in an environment where $100 games are becoming $200-$300 overnight, or even $1000 games are taking off rapidly to $2k and $3k.  But that doesn't mean your $10k games are now $20k-$30k or your $100k game is $200-$300k.  Not all of the jumps will be equal.  Because there are more buyers at the lower levels and less at the higher levels.  Prices are driven by demand and less buyers = less demand naturally.  

Either way, it's interesting but clearly wrote as a clickbait / hype article. 

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Oct 18 at 11:53:36 AM
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Someone sell me a copy of silent service for $3 million so I can have the first $3 million collection

Oct 18 at 12:07:21 PM
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Originally posted by: MrWunderful

Someone sell me a copy of silent service for $3 million so I can have the first $3 million collection
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Oct 18 at 12:18:52 PM
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Why does this article piss me off so much!? Can't put my finger on it

Oct 18 at 12:25:10 PM
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Originally posted by: 3rdstrongestmole

Why does this article piss me off so much!? Can't put my finger on it
Let me tell you a story of my group of highschool friends who started colleting games over 20 years ago.  One of them played games a little but never really collected.  Fast forward 20 years and most of my friends had very nice retro collections.  We had spent years hunting down deals, hunting for the thrift store finds, and wheeling and dealing on eBay.  The one who never really collected didn't have much of a collection but he had a better career than all of us and was getting promotions left and right.  One day he invites us over and he has a HUGE collection of retro games and systems.  He went out and bought a couple of very expensive and big lots.  I persoanlly didn't care but it did rub some of my friends the wrong way.  To them he wasn't a "true" collector as he didn't work for his collection or have the same connection with the games.

 

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Oct 18 at 12:26:19 PM
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Originally posted by: tbone3969
 
Originally posted by: guitarzombie

mark
noun. A person identified as an easy target, or "sucker". A mark is always the short end of a joke or scam, and is never let in on whats going on. A mark is usually being cheated out of money. It's origin is from old English traveling carnivals from the late 1800s to early 1900s, where workers would refer to people paying to see thier made up shows and games a "mark".
He could have the last laugh if he flips them for 3 million in five years.  If game collecting goes the way of comics and cards, which I think it will, then he made a great investment IMO.

 

It takes money to make money.  He needed a million to make 2 more?  Did he really need it in the first place?  I don't see it as that.  I dont think people will care.  They are not timeless and incredibly niche.  I think people with money are trying to strong arm the hobby and hype it to say "I paid this and its worth this now because I set the price for it".  Great.  
 

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Oct 18 at 12:31:11 PM
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Originally posted by: tbone3969

Originally posted by: 3rdstrongestmole

Why does this article piss me off so much!? Can't put my finger on it
Let me tell you a story of my group of highschool friends who started colleting games over 20 years ago.  One of them played games a little but never really collected.  Fast forward 20 years and most of my friends had very nice retro collections.  We had spent years hunting down deals, hunting for the thrift store finds, and wheeling and dealing on eBay.  The one who never really collected didn't have much of a collection but he had a better career than all of us and was getting promotions left and right.  One day he invites us over and he has a HUGE collection of retro games and systems.  He went out and bought a couple of very expensive and big lots.  I persoanlly didn't care but it did rub some of my frineds the wrong way.  To them he wasn't a "true" collector as he didn't work for his collection or have the same connection with the games.

 





Bingo. I think that's exactly what it is. Honestly, I think having millions to throw at the hobby would kill the fun for me... Takes away all the thrill of the hunt, not to mention makes trading worthless. The new collectors entering the field are starting to diminish what was special about it in the first place

Oct 18 at 12:42:02 PM
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Originally posted by: tbone3969
 
Originally posted by: 3rdstrongestmole

Why does this article piss me off so much!? Can't put my finger on it
Let me tell you a story of my group of highschool friends who started colleting games over 20 years ago.  One of them played games a little but never really collected.  Fast forward 20 years and most of my friends had very nice retro collections.  We had spent years hunting down deals, hunting for the thrift store finds, and wheeling and dealing on eBay.  The one who never really collected didn't have much of a collection but he had a better career than all of us and was getting promotions left and right.  One day he invites us over and he has a HUGE collection of retro games and systems.  He went out and bought a couple of very expensive and big lots.  I persoanlly didn't care but it did rub some of my friends the wrong way.  To them he wasn't a "true" collector as he didn't work for his collection or have the same connection with the games.

 
Is your friend a dentist? 

 

Oct 18 at 12:43:50 PM
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Originally posted by: MinusWorlds
 
Originally posted by: tbone3969
 
Originally posted by: 3rdstrongestmole

Why does this article piss me off so much!? Can't put my finger on it
Let me tell you a story of my group of highschool friends who started colleting games over 20 years ago.  One of them played games a little but never really collected.  Fast forward 20 years and most of my friends had very nice retro collections.  We had spent years hunting down deals, hunting for the thrift store finds, and wheeling and dealing on eBay.  The one who never really collected didn't have much of a collection but he had a better career than all of us and was getting promotions left and right.  One day he invites us over and he has a HUGE collection of retro games and systems.  He went out and bought a couple of very expensive and big lots.  I persoanlly didn't care but it did rub some of my friends the wrong way.  To them he wasn't a "true" collector as he didn't work for his collection or have the same connection with the games.

 
Is your friend a dentist? 

 
LMAO, no.  He is an accountant and now he is also a CFO.

 

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Edited: 10/18/2019 at 12:44 PM by tbone3969

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Fuck him.  What kind of sick bastard becomes a dentist anyway?


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Originally posted by: tbone3969
 
Originally posted by: MinusWorlds
 
Originally posted by: tbone3969
 
Originally posted by: 3rdstrongestmole

Why does this article piss me off so much!? Can't put my finger on it
Let me tell you a story of my group of highschool friends who started colleting games over 20 years ago.  One of them played games a little but never really collected.  Fast forward 20 years and most of my friends had very nice retro collections.  We had spent years hunting down deals, hunting for the thrift store finds, and wheeling and dealing on eBay.  The one who never really collected didn't have much of a collection but he had a better career than all of us and was getting promotions left and right.  One day he invites us over and he has a HUGE collection of retro games and systems.  He went out and bought a couple of very expensive and big lots.  I persoanlly didn't care but it did rub some of my friends the wrong way.  To them he wasn't a "true" collector as he didn't work for his collection or have the same connection with the games.

 
Is your friend a dentist? 

 
LMAO, no.  He is an accountant and now he is also a CFO.

 
Eh, can't blame the accountant friend. Most everyone else would do the same thing if they had that cash to burn.

If he's just collecting for his own enjoyment, I don't see anything wrong. To me that's separate from people who deliberately speculate on the market in an effort to boost their own investment.

 

Oct 18 at 12:55:43 PM
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I'd like to see a follow up article where this guy's story goes down hill.

Oct 18 at 1:14:04 PM
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Originally posted by: Tulpa
If he's just collecting for his own enjoyment, I don't see anything wrong. To me that's separate from people who deliberately speculate on the market in an effort to boost their own investment.

This 
 

Oct 18 at 1:14:23 PM
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Originally posted by: Tulpa
 
Originally posted by: tbone3969
 
Originally posted by: MinusWorlds
 
Originally posted by: tbone3969
 
Originally posted by: 3rdstrongestmole

Why does this article piss me off so much!? Can't put my finger on it
Let me tell you a story of my group of highschool friends who started colleting games over 20 years ago.  One of them played games a little but never really collected.  Fast forward 20 years and most of my friends had very nice retro collections.  We had spent years hunting down deals, hunting for the thrift store finds, and wheeling and dealing on eBay.  The one who never really collected didn't have much of a collection but he had a better career than all of us and was getting promotions left and right.  One day he invites us over and he has a HUGE collection of retro games and systems.  He went out and bought a couple of very expensive and big lots.  I persoanlly didn't care but it did rub some of my friends the wrong way.  To them he wasn't a "true" collector as he didn't work for his collection or have the same connection with the games.

 
Is your friend a dentist? 

 
LMAO, no.  He is an accountant and now he is also a CFO.

 
Eh, can't blame the accountant friend. Most everyone else would do the same thing if they had that cash to burn.

If he's just collecting for his own enjoyment, I don't see anything wrong. To me that's separate from people who deliberately speculate on the market in an effort to boost their own investment.

 
Yeah but who is to say this dentist isn't an old school collector and just wanted those super high grade games in his collection.  We are only speculating he is doing this for profit.  What if he keeps them the rest of his life and then gives them to his kids.  Who knows...

 

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Oct 18 at 1:25:31 PM
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1.02 million for 40 sealed games. This would equate to $25,500 per game.

What I want to know is this...on what part of this planet, on what auction site, on what indication or historical evidence, is paying that much making any sense?

There's speculation and then there's downright ridiculousness. 40 sealed games for the price of a mansion?

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Theres $600k worth of halo's alone!   Epic!



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Oct 18 at 1:41:22 PM
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Originally posted by: tbone3969
 
Originally posted by: Tulpa
 
Originally posted by: tbone3969
 
Originally posted by: MinusWorlds
 
Originally posted by: tbone3969
 
Originally posted by: 3rdstrongestmole

Why does this article piss me off so much!? Can't put my finger on it
Let me tell you a story of my group of highschool friends who started colleting games over 20 years ago.  One of them played games a little but never really collected.  Fast forward 20 years and most of my friends had very nice retro collections.  We had spent years hunting down deals, hunting for the thrift store finds, and wheeling and dealing on eBay.  The one who never really collected didn't have much of a collection but he had a better career than all of us and was getting promotions left and right.  One day he invites us over and he has a HUGE collection of retro games and systems.  He went out and bought a couple of very expensive and big lots.  I persoanlly didn't care but it did rub some of my friends the wrong way.  To them he wasn't a "true" collector as he didn't work for his collection or have the same connection with the games.

 
Is your friend a dentist? 

 
LMAO, no.  He is an accountant and now he is also a CFO.

 
Eh, can't blame the accountant friend. Most everyone else would do the same thing if they had that cash to burn.

If he's just collecting for his own enjoyment, I don't see anything wrong. To me that's separate from people who deliberately speculate on the market in an effort to boost their own investment.

 
Yeah but who is to say this dentist isn't an old school collector and just wanted those super high grade games in his collection.  We are only speculating he is doing this for profit.  What if he keeps them the rest of his life and then gives them to his kids.  Who knows...

 
Because it looks like he SPECIFICALLY bought the type of games that are getting hype from newbies. 

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Oct 18 at 2:00:33 PM
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Originally posted by: tbone3969
 
Originally posted by: MinusWorlds

We're not the target audience for this article. The knowledge on this site far surpasses that of the author, "collectors" and resources used combined. Take what they're saying with a grain of salt.

As mentioned, it's not a $1M collection. That's like saying Atwood's collection is a few grand because that's what he paid. TBD is the correct answer.

The only part I took exception too was calling vvg an avid collector. That remains to be seen. An avid buyer, sure. Also, couldn't agree more with the liquidity comment. Seems to me someone came in 7-8 years ago and did something similar. Then couldn't move any of the games.

I sincerely hope he makes tons of money. All ships rise with the storm, but damn that is one crazy risky bet. All the best to him.
Hey there's people that blow a million dollars at a casino.  He has better odds here.  Still not a sure bet but I like his odds.

Look at this Derek Jeter card that just sold for $200,000.  Cards, comics, and games are all getting crazy now.  Where will it stop?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1996-Select-Certified-Mirror-Gold-D...

 

I think the expected value on a blackjack hand are much better than this guy's   

Oct 18 at 2:09:19 PM
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"Holy grail" is possibly one of the stupidest terms in game collecting. In fact, everything about that article makes my skin crawl. How is this dude "one of the worlds most avid game collectors"? Just because he decided baseball cards were too expensive so he jumped over to games and dropped a million dollars with a group of investors?

Also, LMAO at asking John Riggs or Metal Jesus to give their input. 


Edited: 10/18/2019 at 02:11 PM by RalliArtEvo

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I wasted my life not becoming a dentist

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And he spent $1m on the reprints instead of like $200 on the FDS originals  

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Not gonna drop names but there are a couple of guys on here that own a looooot of original video game art and I'm pretty sure they BOTH have more epic collection than this guys.

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