Originally posted by: Parpunk
Originally posted by: tracker465
Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos
His auction is still going up... And he's sold 4 already. ): Come on, guys.
Please don't buy from this guy and report him. Don't go the douchie route and get labels that are the same as the retail versions. We've all listed reasons why the ones the guy is selling on EBAY is a bad idea.
To reiterate: If y'all need new label art, I can make different art for you so that way they won't be mistaken for retail.. my offer always stands. AND IT'S FREE.
Originally posted by: Parpunk
ugh this is terrible. And for those of you who think this is a good idea i feel like slapping you in the head.
scenario>
"der hey tommy, look its an original stadium events cart. Man those thing in mint condition can go for over $2000. Too bad this one has a huge tear through the label. "oh hey, lets just print out a new label for it and its mint again. We can still get over 2k for it!" and the history of the collectible is forever altered and faked.
The condition of a vintage collectible should never be altered. you find some excellent condition items that should get top value because they survived in that condition that long. THATS WHY THEY DESERVE TOP VALUE. Then you find items in poor shape, thats it. it should stop there. No "restoring" or fixing it up. Its not a classic Car! this is ridiculous.
^Another good point.
Why is it okay to fix up or restore an old car, yet the same is not okay for an old videogame? I know many artifacts and so forth that restored to some degree, fragments of pottery and the like pieced together. Old antiques fixed by piecing together a working model from several less-thn-desirable ones, perhaps broken or what not.
I can see and understand both issues of this topic, since I used to be a collector but am now 98% gamer, and 2% collector. On one hand, collectors do not want to buy fake or restored videogames, thinking that they are factory made (I do have a few pirated copies of Sonic for Famicom if anyone is interested, btw). This is understandable, and with technology, profit to be made, and will, the quality of counterfeits will increase and there is not much to be done. Understandable that a collector would not want this.
From the perspective of the casual gamer, however, I see this sort of service as a good thing. No one (except Paul) wants a crappy looking game, and if I had cartridges like those N64 carts in this thread, I would want replacement labels. To this a few people have suggested that it would be best to have different labels, or the word repro across them. Once again, this the way of thinking from the collector standpoint, not that of the regular, casual gamer. I can guarantee that if I was to replace a label for one of my games, I wouldn't want to have the eyesore words "repro" written across it, and at the same time, I would want it to look as authentic as it could to the original thing. I am just being honest here, and I think many other casual gamers would feel the same way about it. So yeah, gotta look from both sides.
1. The Majority of people that try and pass off a vintage car that has been repainted as an original paint job is slim to none. Its clearly easy to tell if a car has been repainted no way around it. This is in no way the same thing as a video game that can have a swapped label, and from pictures you would never be able to tell.
2. another thing is people can be scratching off labels of madden and nfl blitz and putting conkers BFD and mario kart labels on them and selling them as untested.... in bundles on ebay and be totally legit. NOT COOL
3. Pottery and ANYTHING (firearms etc) Will always have less value if the original condition is altered/repaired etc. and normally is disclosed if the item is for sale.
4. Ruins the authnticity of a collectible and helps destroy the hobby one fake at a time.
Cars and Video Games ARE NOT in any way on the same level.
If video games sat around rotting away, then maybe i can see your point but they do not. So the only way they can be "saved" is by restoring/maintaining the condition. Games require no upkeep.
I understand your argument as being a gamer not collector.
However if you are honestly just in it for the gaming than you wouldnt care if it had a label at all. Not want to "fix up" your existing one. (thats a collectors instinct )
That last sentence was EXACTLY what I was thinking. If you're a gamer, the label won't let you "game" any less. Making somthing "look" good is a collector's point of view.
As a collector AND a gamer, I look on both sides more than anything. 50/50 collector/gamer. I have a Sonic the Hedgehog game for Sega Genesis I played until the label wore off. It's a faded mess. But I game the Hell outta it none the less. I also have extra copies that look good that I bought only to display in a collection. I may play them from time to time, but it's mostly display. I like them to look purdy.
You don't have to have the word "REPRO" on it, you can make it just look different than retail. Perhaps even better.
For example:
I made this label. It's art from the Japanese game, yet you can't mistake it for the original. It's my very own personal variant. I even put my initials as the little game code on the bottom. If I want to, I can even make the words "repro" and it won't even look bad at all. I'm not saying I went ahead and done this, in fact I even decided against it. (Image is stock, and I needed money so I'm selling my copy of GL) But it's definitely a lot better than having a strait 1:1 copy.
If anyone has a bad label, send it to Paul for trade on a good copy, OR ask me or one of the art gurus here for different art.
Cant even GIVE the ugly carts away? Don't wanna throw them out? You can even rid your extras in the "Guess the Cart Contests" (See my siggy). I even make personalized art for the winners so they won't end up with crap, but instead a trophy!!!
Again, there should be no excuse why having copied labels are a good idea when we're all explaing why they're not. Morals and ethics kiddies. We're all taught this at a young age.
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