that's ok, they were phenomenal fights that i've always enjoyed watching

too bad his career had to go down the shitter, he'll always be my favorite boxer though, even if he did make bad decisions

this is a pretty good set http://www.ring-side.co.uk/catalo...

Yeah, the guy made terrible decisions.

But he was a monster at the time, and to be heavy weight champion of the world at 19...that's ridiculous.
That guys ability to slaughter people in under a minute...let alone in the first round, is a force to be reckoned with.

there have been long running rumors that he wants to fight mma, and ive seen him guest referee at more than one event. Bob Sapp called him out once when he was in the crowd. Tyson came in the ring prepared to congratulate Sapp, but Sapp took a swing at Tyson. This was a K-1 Kickboxing event, but Sapp said he challenges Tyson to MMA, K-1, or boxing. Tyson would walk through Sapp easy IMO. Sapp is just big, thats his only tool. He would go down in 30 seconds.





Tyson would definatly be in over his head if he fought some top mma competition tho. Fedor would eat him for breakfast, Nog would submit him in the first round. Tyson I think is one of the few boxers that would make a good transition to mma. His stature and build looks like it would lend itself to natural wrestling talent, with a little training, and his striking style fits perfectly. In mma you cant stand in the pocket, bob and weave, and try to put together complicated combinations.. if you do that, you will either get knocked out, because of mmas tiny gloves, or youll just get taken down. Tysons power punches and ability to move out of trouble would be great.<

Tyson would be in over his head against anybody anywhere near his size that was allowed to use more than his fists.

With just the hands...there are only a couple of guys that could take him out. His reach is his weakness. But if he even knicks you, you're toast.

I enjoyed the 3rd fight on the show more then the main even it was in the 170 weight class and they were both very tall 6'1 and like 6'4 lots of back and forth move and counter. I also have seen the previous lesnar fights first fight for him was a complete joke so I wouldn't even count that the guy was like 190 and brock came in at like 300 who's going to win? Punch, fall, over. brock has strenght but he only has 3 mma fights I don't understand why they would give him a title shot with in reality a 1-1 record.
I just don't think he deserved it. like give him a matchs with kongo, Gonzaga etc get a few more fights in to hype it up.

I guess however Randy wasn't getting any younger and if he wanted a challenge brock would be one.

but with that all now said and done I would love to see a fedor Vs lesnar they both seem to have a ton of energy for their size especially after seeing fedors last fight vs Tim.

Lesner vs Cotoure was a fair fight, but I agree, he definatly didnt deserve a title shot. The UFC just did it to make lots of money, and bring over more fans that havent watched the sport yet, which in a way is good, but in another major more important way, it was total BS.



Fedor would walk through Lesner no problem.. Fedor would walk through anyone in the HW devision though, except Nog. Nog is really the only one that stands a chance, and Nogs already lost twice. I think people in the LHW devision would stand a better chance against Fedor. It would have to be a fast striker with good TD defense. No wrestlers are gonna upset fedor.

I really haven't had the chance to watch any of fedors previous fights besides the tim one. I've seen clips but. it just seems like they are both huge and fast. Heck if Randy took brock under his wing imagine the fighter we would get in a year or 2

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I've also heard that kirt Angle wants to get into mma and was talking with the ufc now he I would have respect for if he did it olympic gold medal in wrestling been in alot of "wrastling matches" and because he's been in the "wrestling" biz he knows about how to take a hit, fall. damage and isnt afraid of his own blood. seen some ufc bouts where the blood starts to drip and the fighter thinks he's dying.

I'm not a fan boy or anything of his but I think he could go farther then brock will

I wouldnt be afraid of seeing blood either, if it came from a blood packet and looked like koolaid

surpisingly not alot of the blood you see in "wrestling" is fake sure if it comes from the mouth they have some blood pills but alot of the exterior blood is the real deal

Dont fall for the hype dude.. there are plenty of replays you can watch on youtube of the refs passing off blood packets. It would be illeagal for them to televise such blood baths, and to let such matches go on for extended periods without a doctor and cutman being able to interviene at certain intervals. Not to mention they never have any visible cuts to explain why they are gushing blood. IM sure very very rarely due to accident, some wrestlers do sustain an injury that would cause them to bleed, but this is ultra rare. I know professional wrestling is a very brutal occupation, but it doesnt lend itself to fighting talents anymore then it would do for a stunt man. The only pro wrestlers that have made a good transition to mma are ones with very lengthy and well accomplished collegic histories. PLain old pro wrestlers like Bam Bam Bigaloe, and Nobuhiko Takada have done miserably in mma.

have you ever heard of blading, there is definately real blood in wrestling, only reason i know this is because a buddy of mine is a pro wrestler

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blad...)

correct me if im wrong, but don't some old school wrestlers admit to blading in the movie beyond the mat?

great movie btw if you haven't seen it, a bit sad at some parts

I'm sure their are some instances where blood packs are used but I'm also faily sure that their are alot more instances where "blading" occurs case in point that beyond the mat movie. In the mick foley autobiography "have a nice day" you see and read alot about what he had to go through: japanese death match with terry funk where he burned one of his arms pretty bad with c4, the "ropes" were replaced with real barbed wire not the rubber tipped stuff you usually rear about. I'm no wrestling is real guy lol if anything I find it more like a soap or a sitcom just in front of a live audience. but getting "busted wide open" is a real fact of "wrestling"

Even though your link took me to a site about roller skating.. I know what blading is. It may have been used in the past, and im sure its still present in small underground scenes, but today major organizations such as WWE and TNA are sanctioned by local entertainment organizations. Even if they werent.. the law would still have to step in. You cant be gushing blood.. its unsanitary, expecially if your grappling a coworker while your drenched in your own blood. This is why real sport fights are stopped when the bleeding gets intense.. even if the athelete wants to continue, the officials have to stop the fight, because its just not safe for all parties involved. Wrestlers claim all sorts of things off stage.. Ive seen one claim wrestling is completely real, and punch a reporter in the face, and say "does this look real to you?" They just do that to make themselves look big, and boost their ego, even though its not true. Also do you think anyone would approve having a live blade on stage during a live and televised event? Also, I have met many wrestling fans that claim the bladdeing thing, but I have met none who will bring me video evidence of this act being done in any major organization. I can however return them with reels and reels of footage of guys with water thin red liquids dripping off of their bodies. I could dvr every televised event for the next month, and show you every fight with blood, and then you could compare it to any boxing or mma match, and see the major diffrence in consistancy.

alright well we can agree to disagree its no biggy anyways who do you thinks going to win the forest vs evans fight or rampage vs silva? I'm thinking forest and rampage are going to come out on top.

I dont think Evans speed is gonna be a facotr, Forrests chin is granit, and he will take anything that slips through.. I see him just grinding it out and winning via decision, or getting a mid fight tko.



Rampage vs silva is hard to call. Last two goes.. Silva completely anighlated rampage. It was two very very brutal KOs. I love both these fighters very much so I hate to make a call. Id say if this fight took place before rampage fought forrest, rampage might take it.. but now im not so sure.. he went crazy after the forrest fight, im not sure where his head is, he has serious mental issues coming off that loss, and also knowing hes been destroyed by silva twice.. Im going with silva on this one I guess.

I figured Rampage mainly because he seemed to of transfered to the cage better then silva has even though he did originate in a cage fighting background. silva has to more to lose I think rampage gets beat by silva well he did already lose twice before but if silva loses to rampage who would he be set to fight next? if rampage lost he would most likely be put back in with the iceman or rashad

I think it would suck if silva lost though, alot of the ufc fans dont know alot about him, even though he fought in some of the early ufcs, the TUF fans have no idea who he is. If he losses again he might get put on the back burner like cro cop. I hope if rampage losses he doesnt go insane again.. its still not clear if it was from over exerting his body, or he just went crazy because he lost. Rampage is awesome I would be very happy if he pulls it off. "have you ever had your ass kicked by a blackman? its hurts"