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Feb 19, 2013 at 10:14:16 PM
babywuchki (90)
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First attempt was literally 100 points. Best so far, 8000 .I'll practice a bit more before I officially post my score.

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Feb 19, 2013 at 10:43:19 PM
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Originally posted by: babywuchki

First attempt was literally 100 points. Best so far, 8000 .I'll practice a bit more before I officially post my score.

keep at it, this is a game of repetition, patience, and luck :-)

EDIT: once you get to the rivets stages, realize that the ghosts randomly appear on the opposite side that you are on. There are a couple of good algorithms for completion based on this.



Edited: 02/19/2013 at 10:50 PM by barrels

Feb 19, 2013 at 10:55:58 PM
Logo1285 (14)
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I've tried since posting my score and I am barely breaking 75000 lol Either dying from the height, or the massive amount of barrels.

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Feb 19, 2013 at 11:01:53 PM
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Originally posted by: LukeAF24

113,500

Sorry, ooki! I I usually can't break 100k, but I had a super luck miracle run. I gave up a lot of points timing the springs on 5-2 and luring the fireballs on 5-3.

Very nice! Too bad you couldn't maximize your points, or you would have been way ahead.

I played a few times today and did horribly, after watching Tom's video, no less! Seems like the more I know about this game the more stupid mistakes I make. Oh well, still have until Sunday.

Feb 19, 2013 at 11:29:06 PM
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Originally posted by: ookii_risu


I played a few times today and did horribly, after watching Tom's video, no less! Seems like the more I know about this game the more stupid mistakes I make. Oh well, still have until Sunday.

This! I tried to gather strategy, and now I find myself second-guessing myself.


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Feb 19, 2013 at 11:49:58 PM
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46,000




Edited: 02/20/2013 at 09:22 AM by SomewhatEvil

Feb 19, 2013 at 11:57:06 PM
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Originally posted by: ookii_risu

Very nice! Too bad you couldn't maximize your points, or you would have been way ahead.

I played a few times today and did horribly, after watching Tom's video, no less! Seems like the more I know about this game the more stupid mistakes I make. Oh well, still have until Sunday.
Sad!  My video had the opposite effect!    If it makes you feel any better, I always make every possible dumb mistake at least once before I put a good run together.  So there is hope! 

The good news is that it gets easier.  The difficulty level maxes out if you can beat Level 6.  Just work your way past there and you can cruise for quite a while.

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Feb 20, 2013 at 12:00:14 AM
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Originally posted by: JD

Everything else requires witchcraft and voodoo, and many nights of sacrifice, so I can't help with that
Did we mention rain dances? 

JD, glad you're here.  You should totally give it a go this week!

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Feb 20, 2013 at 12:11:38 AM
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Originally posted by: rdrunner


I made a highlight/tips video of this game a while back.  Hope this helps everyone.




 


Watching that video activated my 'SpergLord senses so I had to figure out just why there is this kill screen, why its on level 133, and why the bonus timer is set to 4 seconds. After some digging, I found the section of code that sets the bonus timer. The starting bonus for the first 4 levels are defined in a table as 50, 60, 70, and 80 seconds. Starting with the 5th level, the bonus is hardcoded to 80 seconds. However, 8-bit 6502 math comes into play and causes the glitch when it is trying to figure out if it should look in the table or use the hardcoded 80 second value. When you get to Level 133, the math doesn't work out, and it wrongly thinks it should look in the table instead of using the hardcoded 80 second value. When it tries to pull out the starting bonus timer from the 133rd entry of the 4 entry table, it uses whatever happens to be there, which in this case is a 4.

If anybody is interested in the gory technical details I can post them in the Brewery.
 

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Feb 20, 2013 at 12:17:06 AM
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Damn it all to hell. I was playing on an emulator and didn't realize my phone (AKA camera) was downstairs. I somehow made it to Loop 7 with 144,200 points. I've never made it past Loop 5 prior to this. Took a screenshot of my entire screen, which has my username on it (just typed on the screen, since I didn't have my camera, decided to just slap it on there), but since it isn't an actual photo of the screen, I don't think it will count. Balls. In any case, I will post the pic here for posterity's sake.



Edited: 02/20/2013 at 12:19 AM by khog143

Feb 20, 2013 at 12:21:18 AM
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Originally posted by: khog143

Damn it all to hell. I was playing on an emulator and didn't realize my phone (AKA camera) was downstairs. I somehow made it to Loop 7 with 144,200 points. I've never made it past Loop 5 prior to this. Took a screenshot of my entire screen, which has my username on it (just typed on the screen, since I didn't have my camera, decided to just slap it on there), but since it isn't an actual photo of the screen, I don't think it will count. Balls. In any case, I will post the pic here for posterity's sake.

 



DAMN O_O

Even if that doesn't count, damn. Nice score, man - just replicate it! Not that hard

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Feb 20, 2013 at 12:22:20 AM
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Originally posted by: khog143

Damn it all to hell. I was playing on an emulator and didn't realize my phone (AKA camera) was downstairs. I somehow made it to Loop 7 with 144,200 points. I've never made it past Loop 5 prior to this. Took a screenshot of my entire screen, which has my username on it (just typed on the screen, since I didn't have my camera, decided to just slap it on there), but since it isn't an actual photo of the screen, I don't think it will count. Balls. In any case, I will post the pic here for posterity's sake.
 

It wouldn't count anyway, because you used all your lives. This is a one-life contest.

Feb 20, 2013 at 12:27:11 AM
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Originally posted by: ookii_risu

Originally posted by: khog143

Damn it all to hell. I was playing on an emulator and didn't realize my phone (AKA camera) was downstairs. I somehow made it to Loop 7 with 144,200 points. I've never made it past Loop 5 prior to this. Took a screenshot of my entire screen, which has my username on it (just typed on the screen, since I didn't have my camera, decided to just slap it on there), but since it isn't an actual photo of the screen, I don't think it will count. Balls. In any case, I will post the pic here for posterity's sake.
 

It wouldn't count anyway, because you used all your lives. This is a one-life contest.

Yeah, I didn't die until that level.  I just got rocked by the barrels, and when I realized I had no camera, I just kinda quit on myself.  I just took a screenshot after death.  I'm gonna try again tomorrow, but I doubt it will happen again.


Feb 20, 2013 at 12:29:16 AM
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Originally posted by: Ravage42

Originally posted by: rdrunner


I made a highlight/tips video of this game a while back.  Hope this helps everyone.




 


Watching that video activated my 'SpergLord senses so I had to figure out just why there is this kill screen, why its on level 133, and why the bonus timer is set to 4 seconds. After some digging, I found the section of code that sets the bonus timer. The starting bonus for the first 4 levels are defined in a table as 50, 60, 70, and 80 seconds. Starting with the 5th level, the bonus is hardcoded to 80 seconds. However, 8-bit 6502 math comes into play and causes the glitch when it is trying to figure out if it should look in the table or use the hardcoded 80 second value. When you get to Level 133, the math doesn't work out, and it wrongly thinks it should look in the table instead of using the hardcoded 80 second value. When it tries to pull out the starting bonus timer from the 133rd entry of the 4 entry table, it uses whatever happens to be there, which in this case is a 4.

If anybody is interested in the gory technical details I can post them in the Brewery.
 

that explanation was so good i didnt understand it but i get what you were saying   

Well put good sir!!



Edited: 02/20/2013 at 12:29 AM by TWarwick07

Feb 20, 2013 at 5:46:21 AM
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Not great, but a bit better than before:


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Feb 20, 2013 at 6:20:37 AM
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97,900


Not my best score but the springs on loop 5 give me hell.

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Feb 20, 2013 at 6:33:32 AM
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18,400


First participation in the contest. Hopefully will improve later this week.


Feb 20, 2013 at 6:36:56 AM
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Baby steps, my friends, baby steps...  (ignore the high score)


I can definitely thank Tom for his tips on the barrel stage. Unfortunately, I ended up bypassing all of the second hammers in each stage, but it made life a lot easier.

I think what I'm missing with the springs is that you have to look at the second one as the first one is passing overhead, right? Because I started moving when the spring was the furthest away and it still hit me



*Score updated




Edited: 02/22/2013 at 01:52 AM by ookii_risu

Feb 20, 2013 at 8:24:51 AM
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Originally posted by: ookii_risu

Baby steps, my friends, baby steps...  (ignore the high score)

114,200

Arrrgg, yyyooouuu! Nice score! Looks like I'll be after you again tonight!

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Edited: 02/20/2013 at 08:34 AM by SwiftFrost

Feb 20, 2013 at 8:45:18 AM
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Tonya, to answer your question: You have to be ahead of the spring and look at it as soon as you take the first step on to the ladder.

If there is a gap between the spring and Donkey Kongs toe you are good. If its touching you need to turn back

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Edited: 02/20/2013 at 08:50 AM by Elijah

Feb 20, 2013 at 8:48:38 AM
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Originally posted by: rdrunner

Originally posted by: JD

Everything else requires witchcraft and voodoo, and many nights of sacrifice, so I can't help with that
Did we mention rain dances? 

JD, glad you're here.  You should totally give it a go this week!





Thanks Tom!, I am hoping the excitement of the contest this week propels me to my first Kill Screen. Time will tell!

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Feb 20, 2013 at 8:59:03 AM
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Getting the hang of it.  Glad I had a chance to finally sit down with this game properly.  You get like this sixth-sense after playing it for awhile, a feel for the barrels and stuff as they move along, what ladder to ascend, etc.  I got too cocky on the end of loop 4, had it and should have waiting for the fire thing to go up further before moving.  Still, happy with this first score.

83,100

Feb 20, 2013 at 9:01:39 AM
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I think what I'm missing with the springs is that you have to look at the second one as the first one is passing overhead, right? Because I started moving when the spring was the furthest away and it still hit me.
It's easy.  First two loops, you get to the top of the stair, move left slightly.  Next one that comes, move as soon as it bounces in front of you, you'll make it up the ladder just in time.  After that, when the thing goes faster, start the same process.  However, now you have to do it slightly different.  When it bounces up to you, start to walk, but instead of going up the ladder, go forward to the point where it's highest at its arc.  Turn right.  Wait for the next one, and as soon as it is bouncing over you, move for the ladder, you'll make it every time.  Ironically, the first level is always the hardest, the rest of the game is pretty cake.

Edit: I also know this works in later loops.  When I first started to play to get higher scores and would die early on, I just kept going to get a feel for the later loops.  It all comes down to stupid mistakes for me, otherwise I have all the rhythm and patterns down pretty good.  I still was able to use the hammer on upper loops on both levels, you just have to anticipate when the straight and diagonal barrel are going to fall on the first level.  I don't even mess with the hammers on the last level unless I know I can kill one of the flame guys, otherwise I use a straightforward left right pattern to get to the top, adjusting as needed and making sure to collect all extra items unless circumstances make it impossible.




Edited: 02/20/2013 at 09:03 AM by Stan

Feb 20, 2013 at 9:10:02 AM
Stan (81)
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Originally posted by: khog143

Damn it all to hell. I was playing on an emulator and didn't realize my phone (AKA camera) was downstairs. I somehow made it to Loop 7 with 144,200 points.
Are you just running for points?  Because you could likely get that by loop 5 or 6 by getting points in other areas.  I guess later it makes more sense to run for the max time, but just in case I die I point crush wherever I can.

Feb 20, 2013 at 12:32:33 PM
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Originally posted by: ookii_risu

Baby steps, my friends, baby steps...  (ignore the high score)

114,200

I can definitely thank Tom for his tips on the barrel stage. Unfortunately, I ended up bypassing all of the second hammers in each stage, but it made life a lot easier.

I think what I'm missing with the springs is that you have to look at the second one as the first one is passing overhead, right? Because I started moving when the spring was the furthest away and it still hit me



 



Nicely done!!!!!

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