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Game Boy Akira and Genesis Mallrats prototypes found

Aug 31, 2016 at 4:37:43 PM
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Originally posted by: Greg2600

Wow, I'd love to try out the Mallrats game! Hell, Kevin Smith probably would love to see it too!


In the short gameplay session I had with it, there's nothing at a glance to indicate that it is indeed based on the film.

That said, I'll be spending more time on figuring that out soon... as he'll be in town in a couple of weeks... not to mention Jason Lee lives in my city now.  

From what I understand, this is a rejected concept piece, meaning there might not be much polish either way... so I'd like to keep the hype train in the station just yet  

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Sep 1, 2016 at 12:42:18 AM
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Nothing to do with it you say? Was it developed by LJN? Ha ha ha!

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Sep 2, 2016 at 5:00:45 PM
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Whoa, this is awesome! What a find!

Glad your dumping it. No one wants a piece of gaming history to be lost forever!

I do offer totally free dumping services, but it appears you've got it covered! =)

Sep 2, 2016 at 5:27:25 PM
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Mallrats could be such a great game.

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Sep 5, 2016 at 12:47:07 PM
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I'd like to see some video of Mallrats definately. drx used to dump but he barely does anymore. Plus he's in the UK so he's probably not close to you.

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Sep 6, 2016 at 1:20:59 AM
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Originally posted by: MathUser2929

I'd like to see some video of Mallrats definately. drx used to dump but he barely does anymore. Plus he's in the UK so he's probably not close to you.

I thought he was in Poland.

 

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Sep 6, 2016 at 1:46:39 AM
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I dunno.

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Sep 6, 2016 at 1:52:57 PM
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frank has the best offer.

exciting finds for sure!

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Sep 13, 2016 at 2:38:35 PM
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Three quick notes

1). Further play of Mallrats confirms it has zero to do with the film. You are a guy in white, running around the mall and shooting green mutant rats. No sailboat in sight.

2). I will be doing a live Let's Play of both games at the Portland event, with the games shown up on the big screen. I believe they scheduled this for Saturday.

3). It crosses my mind that I have four copies of the Akira prototype, so perhaps making a deal to part with one, two or three of them would be prudent way to get the game out there as well. I'm at least open to inquiries on this. Inbox me if interested.

And a huge thank you to everyone who has messaged me with input and advice on these unexpected finds.

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Sep 13, 2016 at 5:23:05 PM
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In Mallrats you spend most of your time trying to get the kid off the escalator.

Sep 14, 2016 at 1:37:26 AM
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I've never seen Mallrats but given that it's a comedy, maybe the game is supposed to be a comical take on the film itself?

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Sep 14, 2016 at 10:58:37 PM
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Originally posted by: Jeckidy

I've never seen Mallrats but given that it's a comedy, maybe the game is supposed to be a comical take on the film itself?


Judging by the fact that the game logo doesn't look anything like the film logo, I'm guessing it's just a coincedence.

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Sep 14, 2016 at 11:25:16 PM
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Screw Mallrats. But an Akira GB game?? I'd buy that for a dollar!!


NOTE: I love Mallrats as much as the next loser.

Sep 19, 2016 at 2:37:24 PM
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Originally posted by: OriginalPSP

Three quick notes

1). Further play of Mallrats confirms it has zero to do with the film. You are a guy in white, running around the mall and shooting green mutant rats. No sailboat in sight.

2). I will be doing a live Let's Play of both games at the Portland event, with the games shown up on the big screen. I believe they scheduled this for Saturday.

3). It crosses my mind that I have four copies of the Akira prototype, so perhaps making a deal to part with one, two or three of them would be prudent way to get the game out there as well. I'm at least open to inquiries on this. Inbox me if interested.

And a huge thank you to everyone who has messaged me with input and advice on these unexpected finds.
Hi Patrick,

As I haven't heard confirmation from you either way about my offer to dump these games for you, or been made aware of any other plans to dump the games, I feel I should warn you about how #3 here is a bad idea that goes against your own beliefs.

I understand you to be a person who cares about the preservation of video game history, so much so that you have a page devoted to it. And that is wonderful! Good for you, we need more people like you!

As you yourself say on your website, your efforts are "used to educate current and future generations of gamers by serving as examples of where we came from." For my money, one of the best educational tools for showing where the games themselves came from is to be able to show them a game's evolution as it was in development. Having one early prototype of a game to compare to the final release often does wonders to teach us about the decisions that were made to get the product to market. Having what might be FOUR DISTINCT BUILDS of a game, like you may have with Akira, is almost unheard of in video game preservation.

Your four copies might all be identical to each other, or they might represent four distinct phases of development. Without dumping all of the ROMs and comparing them you can't be sure, so if you start selling copies without doing this due diligence first, you'll probably never know. Heck, without dumping them, you'll never even know which of your four copies is the latest, most complete version of the game on record - something I believe that you, as the sole curator of this particular piece of history, bears the responsibility of finding out. If you sell your "extra" copies blindly, even if you do end up dumping and releasing the version you keep, the "best" version of this game might be scattered to the winds and lost forever. There is no way of knowing, without being able to examine the ROMs.

It's a big responsibility, I know, but given that you believe in the importance of preserving video game history, I know you'll do the right thing here. I just wanted to give you fair warning before you do something that sabotages your own beliefs!

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Edited: 09/19/2016 at 02:49 PM by TheRedEye

Sep 19, 2016 at 4:24:55 PM
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All reasons why I have not already done such a thing.  That said, I stated that I was open to inquries, if for no other reason than to have that information while I consider the long term.  

That should not be taken to mean I am acting in any way, shape or form in the short term.

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Sep 19, 2016 at 4:53:16 PM
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Originally posted by: OriginalPSP

All reasons why I have not already done such a thing.  That said, I stated that I was open to inquries, if for no other reason than to have that information while I consider the long term.  

That should not be taken to mean I am acting in any way, shape or form in the short term.

Great!

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Oct 13, 2016 at 12:16:29 AM
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Finally put my discovery of them onto YouTube.




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Oct 13, 2016 at 1:04:53 AM
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Wouldn't doing it for the community mean dumpimg and releasing them.

Oct 17, 2016 at 2:54:18 PM
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Originally posted by: Phynn

Wouldn't doing it for the community mean dumpimg and releasing them.

I must have missed something.

As I've stated, I'm open to any and all options for preserving this unique find.  As I've also stated, this is uncharted waters for me, so figuring the option that is both best for the items preservation as well as myself is something I'll take my time on figuring out.  I've had five dozen people contact me with options on that, almost all of them offering different suggestions.  I'm in no hurry, partially due to the fact that I don't have ten spare minutes per day, and partially because I'd like to do this right, not quickly.

Are you somehow under the impression that I'm not going to dump them or release them?  If so, please tell me how I might have given you such an impression.  
 

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Oct 17, 2016 at 5:52:47 PM
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Hi Patrick,

Just a reminder that I'll be at Portland Retro Gaming Expo with all of the equipment necessary to back up your games on-site. I have a permanent table in the museum portion of the show where I'll be archiving things, it should be hard to miss. If we happen to miss each other while I'm on break or in a panel, someone else on the museum staff should be able to help find me. As I know you'll be there with the games, this should be a really good opportunity to knock this out.

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Oct 17, 2016 at 6:56:32 PM
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Mallrats enthusiast checking in

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Oct 17, 2016 at 9:30:30 PM
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Originally posted by: Fleck586

Mallrats enthusiast checking in


Just a reminder that it has zero to do with the film at all.  Just so happens to have the same name.

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Edited: 10/18/2016 at 01:26 PM by OriginalPSP

Oct 20, 2016 at 3:13:04 PM
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Finally played more of Akira today as I prepare to leave for Portland.  Here are some notes and attempts at pics from the one cart I sampled.

- There is a "practice mode" that allows you to play seven different stages

- There are numerous types of stages, from a motorcycle stage to a platformer stage to what appears to be some sort of flying vehicle (sorry, I don't know the Akira movie at all).  You battle the final boss by running back and forth and shooting upwards.

- This particular cart is incomplete.  Each stage plays the same background music and defeating the final boss just takes you back to the title screen. There are few sound effects.  The other three carts may or may not be different.

 

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Oct 25, 2016 at 3:00:57 PM
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More updates:

- All four are, in fact, different builds.

- The code has been dumped privately by a local person, and I am in sole possession of the code.

- None of the builds are complete

- Audience at the Portland Retro Gaming Expo expressed interest in potentially using these partial builds to create a completed game. I'm in the very beginnings of looking that idea at the present time.

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Oct 25, 2016 at 4:40:14 PM
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Sorry you didn't find time to come to my table in the museum! It would have been nice to back these up for you, considering we were both there and so were the carts and the equipment. I hope you've got some other plans.

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