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The difference between the Powerpak and the Everdrive Pros and cons of each?

Jul 7, 2014 at 1:07:06 AM
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What are the differences between the 2 Carts?  Any advantages that one has over another?  I don't really know anything at all about mapers, or eproms or anything (one day I will try to read up on it) so can you explain it in laymans terms?

I know bunnyboy makes the Powerpaks, so maybe he can chime in.

I also know the storage media is different (SD vs CF) Are there any advantages to one or the other? 

I want to get into emulation a bit (mostly to play little samson and some famicom/FDS games) and don't know if there is an advantage that one has over the other.

They are both pretty pricey, and I want to make sure I buy the better one for me.

I did a search, and nothing came up except for a thread about what games work in the powerpak and everdrive.

Powerpak

Everdrive

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Edited: 07/07/2014 at 12:58 PM by MrWunderful

Jul 7, 2014 at 1:44:49 AM
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Well, first off, they definitely aren't emulator carts.

Honestly, the threads you posted should be all you're concerned about. As long as the games work that you want to play, it doesn't really matter how they work, right?

There are no benefits between SD vs CF, other than SD cards are much easier to find at typical retail stores.

Emulator = not playing on real hardware.
Flash carts = playing on real hardware.

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Jul 7, 2014 at 10:20:23 AM
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k han hit it on the nose. Personally I have an everdrive, because the powerpak wasnt available during the time I was looking for one.

If you're simply looking to play games, either does the job superbly and you're wallet will thank you for it... especially when it comes to titles like the panasian games, duck tales 2, etc... you get my drift lol

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Jul 7, 2014 at 10:37:18 AM
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I recently bought an Everdrive N8, and part of the reason was because Krikzz is actively working on it. There's an OS update every 3-4 months where new functions, mappers and save states are added. I'm not familiar with the Powerpak so I can't say for sure what the differences are, but the Everdrive is boss.

Jul 7, 2014 at 10:46:50 AM
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There is one major difference. The Everdrive automatically saves where the power pak does but you have to manually create a file for each game. Once the new power pak is released I'm sure that will be addressed but for now that's the main difference.

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Jul 7, 2014 at 10:50:06 AM
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I bought an Everdrive N8 maybe 2 months ago. Just had to format the SD card, download and drag over the setup files (mappers and whatever), then put all my games on. Super easy. I've had a few games that did not start up, but maybe it was a bad ROM. After saving a game you can just turn off the system. No reset holding.

I cannot speak for the PowerPak as I have not tried it. But if you find that it will work for you, go for it. I feel bad for having bought an Everdrive, I feel less cool every time I start up my NES.

Jul 7, 2014 at 1:01:30 PM
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Originally posted by: KHAN Games

Well, first off, they definitely aren't emulator carts.

Honestly, the threads you posted should be all you're concerned about. As long as the games work that you want to play, it doesn't really matter how they work, right?

There are no benefits between SD vs CF, other than SD cards are much easier to find at typical retail stores.

Emulator = not playing on real hardware.
Flash carts = playing on real hardware.


Thats what I meant, "flash carts"

Ok.  It seems they are more or less similar.  Maybe I will wait to hear more about this other powerpak, although I cannot imagine it will be out anytime in the near future due to the HDMI NES.

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Jul 16, 2014 at 11:33:48 AM
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Is there mapper support yet that will cover all games to work on the powerpak? Also is there some kind of list that says which games will not work on the powerpak? And lastly what improvements did version 1.34 have over 1.20? Did it make more games playable? Or did it just improve FDS and NSF support?

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Jul 16, 2014 at 3:41:01 PM
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Jul 16, 2014 at 10:51:00 PM
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Originally posted by: Gundam_Pilot_

Is there mapper support yet that will cover all games to work on the powerpak? Also is there some kind of list that says which games will not work on the powerpak? And lastly what improvements did version 1.34 have over 1.20? Did it make more games playable? Or did it just improve FDS and NSF support?


There is a huge thread somewhere with all the compatibilities/incompatibilites and all the different mappers available for the powerpak.

Jul 16, 2014 at 11:31:11 PM
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Originally posted by: NESHomebrew

Originally posted by: Gundam_Pilot_

Is there mapper support yet that will cover all games to work on the powerpak? Also is there some kind of list that says which games will not work on the powerpak? And lastly what improvements did version 1.34 have over 1.20? Did it make more games playable? Or did it just improve FDS and NSF support?


There is a huge thread somewhere with all the compatibilities/incompatibilites and all the different mappers available for the powerpak.

http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/...


As far as I know all licenced USA games can be played one way or another with official mappers or by using thefox's save state mappers. I've tested all USA games myself,  I had some issues with 1 or 2 Koei games and a handful of unlicenced games, mostly AVE.


Jul 16, 2014 at 11:51:14 PM
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Is there a link of all the NES games to download the Roms that we know officially work??

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Jul 17, 2014 at 8:47:29 AM
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^ I believe posting stuff like that is a no-no here. Maybe someone will shoot you a PM?

EDIT: Oh, and to chime in. I have a powerpak and it works great for the NES. Never really had any issues with it aside from minor ones (it was really goofy trying to alphabetize originally, I eventually had to clear the card and alphabetize it by hand. It seemed like any further switching of ROMs would completely throw it off.

My SNES Powerpak drives me nuts though. It doesn't start up about half of the time (might be dirty) and I would say 50-60% of the games I try to load don't work for one reason or another. Not sure if I just found a really bad place for ROMs, but I honestly thought more would work since I had the DSP1 chip installed and didn't really mind the incompatablity list. Oh, and I still can't get it to save properly. It might be because I got the SNES one early on and it's had some fixes that aren't installed, but I'm not the kind of guy that has free time to play with these files all day.

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Originally posted by: MrWunderful
 
Originally posted by: KHAN Games

Well, first off, they definitely aren't emulator carts.

Honestly, the threads you posted should be all you're concerned about. As long as the games work that you want to play, it doesn't really matter how they work, right?

There are no benefits between SD vs CF, other than SD cards are much easier to find at typical retail stores.

Emulator = not playing on real hardware.
Flash carts = playing on real hardware.


Thats what I meant, "flash carts"

Ok.  It seems they are more or less similar.  Maybe I will wait to hear more about this other powerpak, although I cannot imagine it will be out anytime in the near future due to the HDMI NES.


No. You were right before. It's a cartridge emulator. Commercial devkits have called their reprogram able carts "cartridge emulators" for a long time. The Bung stuff, for example. The V64 has an "emulation adapter" that allows the CIC and EEPROM of an attached game to pass through while they simulate the MaskROM. The V64jr calls itself a "cartridge emulator" right on the label.

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I purchased the Everdrive N8 mainly because of my experience with other Krikzz products. I've been 100% satisfied with all of my Everdrive products (totaling 7 now), so I didn't see much of a reason to look at other brands. That doesn't mean the Powerpack is inferior, but the N8 does everything I will ever want it to.

Also, several people have said that you don't need to hit reset for game saves on the N8. This is true UNLESS you are playing FDS games in which you must still hit reset to keep your game save before you turn the NES off.

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