Originally posted by: Splain

I don't vote if I'm not familiar and I don't have time to get familiar, but I kinda tried with DT. Obviously I don't "get" metal, but this guy makes me second-guess what I thought I knew about metal bands.

This is an honest question, I don't mean any disrespect if the answer is no, but does every metal group/song have an element of being "ironically" hard? For example, it's tough to verbally explain what goes on in a lot of metal music videos in a way that sounds like they're serious about being so "metal," and it feels like the kind of thing you have to not think too hard about, and just let it be 90's cool.

For example, the juular music video looks like an N64 game. I'm not poking fun, it's obvious they weren't trying to make everything look true to life in that video. If that song/video was made to make some serious, real statement about religion/hell/whatever it's about, then it's just plain not something I'm into, like watching people get REALLY into fandoms and stuff. (Like when people ask me "really?" when I tell them I collect old Game Boy games unironically  ) But if it comes from a room full of guys saying "haha, let's make it super over the top! We'll have this guy named Juular riding a polygonal hell-train and the one guy is all calm but then Juular jumps up and screams!" etc., then I can see how people can just sort of jump into music like this and just feel like a crazy teenager for a little bit.

Also, it's sort of a common running joke that really hard metal guys are actually teddy bears inside. It's common enough that it starts to make sense that people just listen to it for fun, a tiny bit ironically, and not to actually sink themselves into the death and satanic stuff etc, actually thinking that the music videos are cool. It's kinda funny to think that bands who are constantly depicting themselves as hard and serious are still following all the steps; dutifully filming music videos, printing CDs, making agreements with iTunes etc. It's all just a little bit forced, right?

Again, no disrespect if I'm way off. I definitely listen to loads of embarrassing garbage unironically. It might be that it's just not for me.

Originally posted by: Splain

I don't vote if I'm not familiar and I don't have time to get familiar, but I kinda tried with DT. Obviously I don't "get" metal, but this guy makes me second-guess what I thought I knew about metal bands.

This is an honest question, I don't mean any disrespect if the answer is no, but does every metal group/song have an element of being "ironically" hard? For example, it's tough to verbally explain what goes on in a lot of metal music videos in a way that sounds like they're serious about being so "metal," and it feels like the kind of thing you have to not think too hard about, and just let it be 90's cool.

For example, the juular music video looks like an N64 game. I'm not poking fun, it's obvious they weren't trying to make everything look true to life in that video. If that song/video was made to make some serious, real statement about religion/hell/whatever it's about, then it's just plain not something I'm into, like watching people get REALLY into fandoms and stuff. (Like when people ask me "really?" when I tell them I collect old Game Boy games unironically  ) But if it comes from a room full of guys saying "haha, let's make it super over the top! We'll have this guy named Juular riding a polygonal hell-train and the one guy is all calm but then Juular jumps up and screams!" etc., then I can see how people can just sort of jump into music like this and just feel like a crazy teenager for a little bit.

Also, it's sort of a common running joke that really hard metal guys are actually teddy bears inside. It's common enough that it starts to make sense that people just listen to it for fun, a tiny bit ironically, and not to actually sink themselves into the death and satanic stuff etc, actually thinking that the music videos are cool. It's kinda funny to think that bands who are constantly depicting themselves as hard and serious are still following all the steps; dutifully filming music videos, printing CDs, making agreements with iTunes etc. It's all just a little bit forced, right?

Again, no disrespect if I'm way off. I definitely listen to loads of embarrassing garbage unironically. It might be that it's just not for me.

Originally posted by: themisfit138






To answer your question, even Kerry King of Slayer said you should look at their music as if it were a horror movie. Metal is entertainment have fun.