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NES Top loader Prototype?

Oct 23, 2008 at 6:15:05 PM
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Pretty neat, I was hoping from the title it would be much more different then a reg. top loader.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Collectable-Nintendo-NES-Top-Loadin...

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Oct 23, 2008 at 6:27:14 PM
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This seller is a complete douche. I asked him a question about the camera last time he listed it. You would think Link shat it himself....$1,000 paalllease!!

I have three of these with total cost under $75!!

Oct 23, 2008 at 6:30:20 PM
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Originally posted by: Muthafodder

This seller is a complete douche. I asked him a question about the camera last time he listed it. You would think Link shat it himself....$1,000 paalllease!!

I have three of these with total cost under $75!!


Are you sure you have 3 prototype nes top loader with the SNES-N64 AV-out?

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Oct 23, 2008 at 6:33:19 PM
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I think he has 3 gameboy cameras. i was confused at first too, but i checked the sellers other items.

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Oct 23, 2008 at 6:53:07 PM
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Sorry, I have three of the cameras.

Oct 23, 2008 at 6:55:48 PM
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The gold Zelda Cameras?

Oct 23, 2008 at 7:07:50 PM
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I love the idea of the top loader using that output, wish they would have stuck with that

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Oct 23, 2008 at 7:39:53 PM
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It is nothing special guys. That output was used on French consoles, so it was sold in Europe most likely. Even some toasters have that type of input in France.
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Oct 23, 2008 at 7:40:04 PM
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I was talking to someone and he pointed out it COULD BE just a simple store model...not a proto.....stil cool.

Oct 23, 2008 at 7:42:12 PM
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Originally posted by: NationalGameDepot

It is nothing special guys. That output was used on French consoles, so it was sold in Europe most likely. Even some toasters have that type of input in France.
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Nothing special in France, where they use PAL... but if that unit's NTSC...

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Oct 23, 2008 at 7:47:13 PM
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Originally posted by: NationalGameDepot

It is nothing special guys. That output was used on French consoles, so it was sold in Europe most likely. Even some toasters have that type of input in France.
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Are you sure about that?  As far as I know, PAL toploaders were only sold in Australia (standalone unit, and a set with the AUS 3-in-1 pack-in).  I've never seen one sold in a PAL-B region before, but I guess it could be possible.  Notice, though, how the sticker on the bottom reads NES-001 instead of NES-101.  I mean, it could be a modded system, that he purchased a frontloader with that serial from Nintendo, kept the receipt, modded a toploader and swapped the stickers on the bottom to make it look like a proto. 

Oct 23, 2008 at 7:50:23 PM
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I just compared the back to my toploader, and the mold is different as well, so maybe this really is a prototype.

Oct 23, 2008 at 7:51:20 PM
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Originally posted by: Kitsune Sniper

Originally posted by: NationalGameDepot

It is nothing special guys. That output was used on French consoles, so it was sold in Europe most likely. Even some toasters have that type of input in France.
~~NGD


Nothing special in France, where they use PAL... but if that unit's NTSC...


I think the Top Loader is simply multi-region, play NTSC and PAL cartridge without being modded. Am I right?

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Oct 23, 2008 at 7:57:40 PM
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I bought 4 of these from the Nintendo garage sale in the past. I never even bothered to look for this. Ohh well they are long gone now

Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59:26 PM
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The top loaders are multi region, that is why I said it was sold in France and didn't say PAL. I know for 100% fact that toasters were sold in France (there is a whole thread about it at nesworld) so I am sure they would stick to that same style of hookup in for the top loaders as well.
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Oct 23, 2008 at 8:01:10 PM
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Oct 23, 2008 at 8:21:49 PM
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The toasters were indeed like that in France, but I have never seen a toploader for sale in any PAL-B region or Europe in general, including France, and I've been monitoring their marketplaces for more than 3 years now, so I don't think toploaders were sold here. I think it's likely that this one's from a test batch and is indeed a prototype (esp. if buyatari bought 4 of these in the US).

Oct 23, 2008 at 8:28:23 PM
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I am not sure if they were sold PAL B countries or not...but I am sure you don't ask sellers what the back of the top loader looks like on most auctions either cause most people don't show that in an auction. I have my doubts this is a proto unless the guy has some proof somehow.
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Oct 23, 2008 at 9:50:20 PM
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NOw i'm ticked that they didnt use that hook-up here!! oh well I usualy use the RCA JAck out, but it would be nice to have music not in Mono.

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Oct 23, 2008 at 9:51:00 PM
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Have you guys seen the AV Famicom? It would be soooo easily to mix & match the shells and innards and come up with an NTSC AV Toploader. I'm not saying this isn't legit (it probably is, but who cares?), but this is definitely something that would be very easy to "fake," so to speak.

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Oct 23, 2008 at 9:56:39 PM
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I havent seen many Prototype machines in my life, but my question is: Do prototypes realy have labels? I would think that proto's would not have a label.

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Oct 24, 2008 at 11:08:08 AM
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Originally posted by: Dr. Morbis

Have you guys seen the AV Famicom? It would be soooo easily to mix & match the shells and innards and come up with an NTSC AV Toploader. I'm not saying this isn't legit (it probably is, but who cares?), but this is definitely something that would be very easy to "fake," so to speak.


I have an av fami.....and I can say. if he did switch it up. He had to cut a  hole in the top half.

Oct 25, 2008 at 11:59:35 PM
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I would go with the theory that it's modded from an A/V Famicom. The back piece is standing free from the rest of the plastic housing and should be easy to switch, and those copyright and serial number labels are, as Speedy_NES also pointed out, obviously identical to those sitting underneath regular US toaster models. I don't know, but I get the feeling they wouldn't place such labels on a factory made top loader prototype.

Jero32: Could you please post a pic of the back of your A/V Famicom system?


Edited: 10/26/2008 at 12:11 AM by Johan_1984

Oct 26, 2008 at 12:07:47 AM
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He also states that he has the original receipt....REALLY??

Since when does NOA sell prototypes at their headquarters.

This guy has gotten WAY too much attention in the World Wide Web...he is obviously trying to pull the wool over on whomever is interested in buying it...likely trying to make himself some Christmas shopping money through fraud rather than making an honest living.

Let's see the fucking receipt...why mention it if you aren't going to provide a picture of it in your auction since it assumingly provides sooooo much creedence!!



Edited: 10/26/2008 at 12:09 AM by Muthafodder

Oct 26, 2008 at 12:10:46 AM
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Four reasons why it's *NOT* a modded AV Famicom:

1. The top (light gray) half of an AV Famicom lacks the upward curvature (outward towards you) if you're looking top-down at the system) near the cartridge slot that the standard top-loader NES has. Also, AV Famicoms have the FF/Family Computer logo where the normal Nintendo Entertainment System text would be.

2. The cartridge slots in top-loader NES systems are about 5/16" or so wider than those in AV Famicoms. Also, on the topic of cartridge slots, AV Famicoms have two in-folding doors over the cartridge slot. Top-loader NESes only have one.

3. Note the text "AV OUT" on the back of the top-loader in auction. That would be very difficult to fake without spending some major $$ on getting a new mold made for the plastic.

4. You will also note the absence of the expansion port in the right side of the system. American top-loaders didn't have that, but AV Famicoms did.

One final note...he reduced the price: $2000 start/$3000 BIN. Still a bit high, I think. It would be neat to own one, though .

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Edited: 10/26/2008 at 12:11 AM by mb7241