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Nesruler's 2011 Contest presents: Archon

Feb 25, 2011 at 10:19:05 PM

guillavoie (125)

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Originally posted by: Stan

Man, even with a near perfect game I was only able to drop my score by two points for a total of 21. I have to ask you Mog, did you play this raw? I don't mean to sound like a little bitch, but you either cheated or played a perfect game, the latter being about a one in a million chance. I only missed roughly 8 moves (one screw up death, and a couple of extra steps to take here and there), and that's still WAY above your base score without subtracting troops. I smell a Mog!

Seriously, 9 is an achievable score, and below 9 is possible. If you can't get any better than 20ish, you need to revise a few things in your strategy to score lower.

I don't doubt any minute Mog's score is legit.

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Feb 25, 2011 at 10:38:26 PM

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I'm telling you man, I've just played this game near perfect like five times in a row. Achieving that score might be possible, but it's very doubtful to me at this point. I only made two mistakes last game and was still way over his score (within 10). Conceivably, if he used a GG for the unlimited movement code, this score would be doable. I just can't believe it was done raw. I seriously made only two mistakes this last game. If 9 is possible, it has to be the perfect score, no way you can get lower. The math just wouldn't work out. Each time the computer moves counts as a turn, as well as you. With 18 troops on each side, 26 moves might be conceivable, but you'd have to have everything in your favor. The computer would have to not be able to use revive (that's easy to get out of the way), not use an elemental (also counts as a wasted turn for you), as well as some other things. Again, doesn't matter, because there it's not likely I'll get dropped from the five, but I think Mog and I have an ongoing war now. We must continue this in a separate thread when it's over! The Archon battle begins!

Edited: 02/25/2011 at 10:39 PM by Stan

Feb 25, 2011 at 10:42:53 PM

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And there's no way for me to adjust my strategy. I teleport the unicorn over, and basically wipe out the entire army with JUST that piece. I move the phoenix over occasionally for weaker troops, but every turn the unicorn has enough movement to cover at least one piece. Do it right, and you can get one piece every turn, they'll attack you roughly once every other turn, and it ends in no time. But not 26 turns, I'm telling you the man is a cheat! War!

Feb 25, 2011 at 10:47:18 PM

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Mog is 100% legit when it comes to gaming, he is a great fucking player. He just sucks at Jeopardy is all. So quit your damn crying, also Archon is a game of strategy if you attack players when they are light sided spaces the health bar favors your piece.

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Feb 25, 2011 at 10:56:38 PM

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Originally posted by: Stan

I'm telling you man, I've just played this game near perfect like five times in a row. Achieving that score might be possible, but it's very doubtful to me at this point. I only made two mistakes last game and was still way over his score (within 10). Conceivably, if he used a GG for the unlimited movement code, this score would be doable. I just can't believe it was done raw. I seriously made only two mistakes this last game. If 9 is possible, it has to be the perfect score, no way you can get lower. The math just wouldn't work out. Each time the computer moves counts as a turn, as well as you. With 18 troops on each side, 26 moves might be conceivable, but you'd have to have everything in your favor. The computer would have to not be able to use revive (that's easy to get out of the way), not use an elemental (also counts as a wasted turn for you), as well as some other things. Again, doesn't matter, because there it's not likely I'll get dropped from the five, but I think Mog and I have an ongoing war now. We must continue this in a separate thread when it's over! The Archon battle begins!

Dude, chill out a minute, and listen to this:

The perfect score for this contest is 0: It would mean entering in a battle with the computer at each turn, and winning them all. It is hard to achieve cause the computer have to attack you every time he can, so it include luck/weak-strategy factor, but it is possible.

If you can't match Mog's score, (I repeat myself here), you need to readjust your strategy. Take a deep breath, think about it twice, and I'm sure you'll come up with a better score.

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Edited: 02/25/2011 at 10:58 PM by guillavoie

Feb 25, 2011 at 11:21:18 PM

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Never, it is a war! GG using monster! Ahhhhhh!!!!! Skull, yeah, I know, if you read what I said you'd see I said I only made two mistakes the last time. I simply cannot figure out how in the world he could manage a score like that without cheating when I was still 10 moves over his base score. Just doesn't add up! He's been fooling you all this time!

Feb 26, 2011 at 12:07:13 AM

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I thought 9 was still kind of high. I wasted at least 3 turns in that game. I died once, I healed once, and I didn't account for something and had to waste a turn (not attack).

Edited: 02/26/2011 at 12:07 AM by Mog

Feb 26, 2011 at 4:58:31 AM

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Stan i think you have a hard on for this game or something. Seriously. I trust mogs score. hell i saw him run through tiny toon contest live. the mans a beast.

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Feb 26, 2011 at 11:14:10 AM

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Hahahaha, don't worry guys, I'm just messing mainly. I honestly can't figure it out though. There HAS to be something else with the way the turns work. I'll have to read the manual later to see if the colors matter to turns as well. For example, one time I played and generally played the same as the game before, but the turns were WAY over what they were the last game. There has to be something else to the mechanics. And, just so we all know, it's not possible to get a score of 0. Each side has 18 troops. To get a 0, you'd have to move NO MORE than 9 times and the computer would have to move the other 9 into your troops. It's just not possible. Lower might be, maybe, but there has got to be something about the way the turns work that is not immediately obvious.

Feb 26, 2011 at 11:15:01 AM

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Oh, good name thing by the way Mog, that's what I want to see!

Feb 26, 2011 at 12:29:41 PM

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I doubt 0 is possible in a real game. It might be possible with savestates/tool assist, but that's about it. You'd have to be real lucky to get it with out cheating.

1 is very possible. I might be able to get 2, but I think Ill shoot for 5. The trick is to keep calm and not throw your controller

Feb 26, 2011 at 4:13:00 PM

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Hahahah. If you can get that score I'll be highly impressed, and I'd like to know your strategy. I can't think of any way of decreasing my score, so there has to be something special you're doing, some way of milking the mechanics without cheating. I thought maybe the time spell had something to do with turns, but it only adjusts the colors on the board. Nothing in the manual indicates anything about how the turns are calculated, either. I suspect maybe flying troops somehow have something to do with it, but since you don't know the turns until the very end it's difficult to tell. I'll give it a another go tonight, just curious if I can get a bit closer. If not, you've definitely figured out some sort of special strategy that's escaping me or got very, very lucky in terms of enemy troop movement, enemy spells, and battle scene obstacle placement.

Feb 27, 2011 at 11:13:29 AM

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Well, looks like Mogitogi and I are going to be the highest scores for this beast. Unless, of course, Canada man comes up with a higher (lower) score than mine. I can't wait to see how you guys did it, I'm pretty sure there's some sort of technique you're using that's escaping me. Some sort of skewed way of using the game mechanics.

Feb 27, 2011 at 3:36:17 PM

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lol most dont post till the end so lookout stan haha. but seriously im just going to post a participation score soon haha

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Feb 27, 2011 at 3:39:23 PM

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My score level is very difficult to achieve, unless you found the trick that I believe Mog must have discovered and I'm not aware of. It's tough to get below 40.

Feb 27, 2011 at 4:36:42 PM

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1009

Screw this game. My golem dude wrecked them up but all i had left at the end was a sword dude. He did pretty good going down with a fight though. He killed that damn dragon who pwned me and a couple others before dying.

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Feb 27, 2011 at 6:29:42 PM

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This is all for me on this one.

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Feb 27, 2011 at 7:31:20 PM

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I died here, which added at least 2, maybe 3 moves.

Here is a screen cap from a video I recorded that ended in 7 with no deaths. I fucked up so bad here and now I am so pissed >_< This one should have been a god damn 5. There was one troll guy left, I moved the phoenix to attack AND I PUT HIM ON THE SQUARE NEXT TO HIM!!!!!!! Then of course he just moves to and empty square and didn't attack.

Feb 27, 2011 at 9:02:08 PM

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This just cost me half of my Sunday, but here we go (Stan might do a heart attack):

3

Now, I hope this will stand to the end.
In any case, a big thanks to Mog for pushing me to the limit. That's hardcore competition.

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Feb 27, 2011 at 9:07:25 PM

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Wow awesome! I have to know what you guys are doing because I swear there's no way to fine tune my strategy any further. And what the hell I see you brought a valkyrie way over there? What the shit?! I swear I must have the too many turns calculated at the end variant.

Feb 27, 2011 at 9:08:02 PM

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And yeah, a couple of times before I did the wrong square movement thing. Very annoying. Ruins a whole game.

Feb 27, 2011 at 9:12:40 PM

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Wow, very impressive, guill. I just couldn't get into this game this week.

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Feb 27, 2011 at 10:27:01 PM

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EDIT

See lower post for updated results

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Edited: 02/27/2011 at 10:48 PM by bimmy_lee

Feb 27, 2011 at 10:31:13 PM

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Damnit i got a score of 1007 and have been trying to post it for over an hour... Looks like nA was down or something. My phone and comp could not get on . Can i post my pic and get my deserved top 5 finish?

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Feb 27, 2011 at 10:32:44 PM

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Im on my phone now thats why i havenf posted it already

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