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Statement from NESmaker regarding NESmaker publishing

May 17 at 3:51:24 PM
EnigMog (0)

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May 17 at 3:53:38 PM
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This shit drives me bonkers. Stop what you’re doing and read the TOC of photoshop. Oooooopps, you got how far? three lines?!?!?!?!? you think Adobe is concerned with oversaturation of crowdfunding? They (NESmaker at large) aren’t liable for anything an individual does with their sandbox program: stealing IP, creating a horrible game, etc. that’s on the creator, not the program. AND they are not entitled for any “spoils of…victory” either.



 



What is this post supposed to combat or clarify? In commercial America you can't take someone else's program and sell it as your own. Are they having that problem? Because a tumblr post doesn't have the same legal weight as a cease n' desist. Are they worried that they’ll be a shitton of LOZ ripoffs flooding the market? Then why did you release it to the public? Do you want compensation for folks using your program? You were compensated at the sale point- that’s it.




This marble-mouthed dumpster fire is some weird double-speak micromanagement that, instead of clearly defines the lines between program and the creative public, now sorta entangles them into 3rd party projects that could or could not suck, be insulting, be stolen IP, ruin a niche market.



 



I’m not opposed to offering creative opportunities to the nostalgic public. Hell, NESmaker could be considered a high-level program (literally sitting upon assembly), but this feels like an answer to a question no one asked. 


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Edited: 05/17/2019 at 04:40 PM by zi

May 17 at 3:56:22 PM
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"Keep it classy. While we 100% advocate for people to use NESmaker to create any type of game experience they are compelled and able to create, and we're generally big kids and personally enjoy plenty of content that may be deemed 'inappropriate', if you're hoping for any official support from us as a company in a crowdfunding campaign, remember that we have 6 year old kids using the software. Use your head on this."

NESMaker you can rip Cornball Cocksuckers from my cold, dead hands.

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May 17 at 6:15:22 PM
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Originally posted by: DefaultGen

"Keep it classy. While we 100% advocate for people to use NESmaker to create any type of game experience they are compelled and able to create, and we're generally big kids and personally enjoy plenty of content that may be deemed 'inappropriate', if you're hoping for any official support from us as a company in a crowdfunding campaign, remember that we have 6 year old kids using the software. Use your head on this."

NESMaker you can rip Cornball Cocksuckers from my cold, dead hands.
Man, I missed out on Cornball Cocksuckers -- was a ROM ever made available for download?

 

May 17 at 6:40:53 PM
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Originally posted by: WaverBoy
 
Originally posted by: DefaultGen

"Keep it classy. While we 100% advocate for people to use NESmaker to create any type of game experience they are compelled and able to create, and we're generally big kids and personally enjoy plenty of content that may be deemed 'inappropriate', if you're hoping for any official support from us as a company in a crowdfunding campaign, remember that we have 6 year old kids using the software. Use your head on this."

NESMaker you can rip Cornball Cocksuckers from my cold, dead hands.
Man, I missed out on Cornball Cocksuckers -- was a ROM ever made available for download?

 

I don't think the ROM is out there. K3VBOT reprinted it on yellow carts and had them available at least during last year's convention circuit. He might have/be making more.
 

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May 17 at 7:00:03 PM
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Originally posted by: DefaultGen
 
Originally posted by: WaverBoy
 
Originally posted by: DefaultGen

"Keep it classy. While we 100% advocate for people to use NESmaker to create any type of game experience they are compelled and able to create, and we're generally big kids and personally enjoy plenty of content that may be deemed 'inappropriate', if you're hoping for any official support from us as a company in a crowdfunding campaign, remember that we have 6 year old kids using the software. Use your head on this."

NESMaker you can rip Cornball Cocksuckers from my cold, dead hands.
Man, I missed out on Cornball Cocksuckers -- was a ROM ever made available for download?

 

I don't think the ROM is out there. K3VBOT reprinted it on yellow carts and had them available at least during last year's convention circuit. He might have/be making more.
 
Aw man, I hope he's gonna make more!  I gotta have one!

 

May 17 at 8:20:59 PM
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1) By purchasing a license for NESmaker, you are granted permission to do whatever you want and deal with the consequences if there are any.
2) You may not re-sell raw code or assets that are packaged with NESmaker because who would want that anyway, it is garbage.
3) You may not use graphic or sound assets that are packaged with NESmaker tutorial assets for commercial purposes. Read #2.
4) You may use NESmaker to create games for IPs that you do not explicitly own the legal rights to, in writing. Read #1.

P.S.: The makers of NESmaker may use the "NES" name and the NES cartridge likeness prior to/without nintendo's written consent because they are the good guys.


Edited: 05/17/2019 at 08:58 PM by nesrocks

May 18 at 9:40:30 AM
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Originally posted by: WaverBoy

Originally posted by: DefaultGen
 
Originally posted by: WaverBoy
 
Originally posted by: DefaultGen

"Keep it classy. While we 100% advocate for people to use NESmaker to create any type of game experience they are compelled and able to create, and we're generally big kids and personally enjoy plenty of content that may be deemed 'inappropriate', if you're hoping for any official support from us as a company in a crowdfunding campaign, remember that we have 6 year old kids using the software. Use your head on this."

NESMaker you can rip Cornball Cocksuckers from my cold, dead hands.
Man, I missed out on Cornball Cocksuckers -- was a ROM ever made available for download?

 

I don't think the ROM is out there. K3VBOT reprinted it on yellow carts and had them available at least during last year's convention circuit. He might have/be making more.
 
Aw man, I hope he's gonna make more!  I gotta have one!

 

He has them at every convention. Send him a PM. He likely has one ready to go  

May 26 at 11:06:51 PM
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Wish they would actually "publish" their Mystic Searches title that they put on hold to develop this tool. Rather than trying to have a hand in crowdfunding and distribution of other titles - I would hope that their own damn project would be somewhat of a higher priority than announcing to the world what they feel are the proper ethical guidelines to creating and publishing games with NESMaker.

May 26 at 11:35:37 PM
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  • Demonstrate that you can complete a game.  Before we advocate for or support your project, we need to have confidence that you can create something of scope and quality.  If you can not demonstrate that you can fully complete a NES project, you’re not yet ready to try to Kickstart a NES project.


Oh, the irony.

May 27 at 3:16:12 PM
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But it's not like they've stopped working on mystic searches. I see evidence of progress every now and then. The changes they do to the tool are done to make the game better. Last addition was sprite based inventory manager. It'll probably be for the better in terms of gameplay quality. But on the other hand, i missed the MS kickstarter and so i'm not in the position of having put out money and having to wait.

lastly.. this is why we've delayed our Kickstarter launch time and time again. Safer having most of the game complete and bug free before launch, especially if it's the first game going to KS.

I don't feel comfortable sitting on peoples' money for long. Stuff can happen. 


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I'm wondering if the communique was more or less in response to dungeons and doomknights? Their first game before this was also launched on KS and has not been completed yet. This game seems easier to complete, but the demo seemed a bit too undeveloped to go to market with. I'd like more demonstrations of coding that take the game in directions outside the "mystic searches" box, and some of the plumbing to be tighter than what the freely provided codebase allows in itself. It *may* come out good, but the campaign demo/video didn't convince me backing it. 

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Edited: 05/27/2019 at 03:32 PM by FrankenGraphics

May 27 at 5:20:41 PM
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Originally posted by: bootload

  • Demonstrate that you can complete a game.  Before we advocate for or support your project, we need to have confidence that you can create something of scope and quality.  If you can not demonstrate that you can fully complete a NES project, you're not yet ready to try to Kickstart a NES project.


Oh, the irony.



Hahahahaha!!

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May 28 at 8:13:22 AM
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Originally posted by: Fleck586
 
Originally posted by: bootload
 
  • Demonstrate that you can complete a game.  Before we advocate for or support your project, we need to have confidence that you can create something of scope and quality.  If you can not demonstrate that you can fully complete a NES project, you're not yet ready to try to Kickstart a NES project.


Oh, the irony.



Hahahahaha!!


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