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What's my sealed smb3 worth? updates: more pictures

Feb 9, 2011 at 2:31:52 AM

Lincoln (138)

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I have this and am trying to figure out what a fair sale price is. thanks for input.

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it's been squished. the lower left corner is the wost. the lower portion of the back (over the upc) has also been pushed down around the edge of the books/inserts. there's some sticker residue on the front.

thoughts?

update: more pictures of the top.

left and right are as the box front faces you.

top left front. plastic intact. no wear/damage to cardboard. best corner on the box :\

top right front. plastic intact, but there is damage to the box: there is some tearing straight down that is in line with the space between the flap and the box front. looks like something was pushing down from the top without catching most of the box front.

top left rear. corner has poked through, and the box is worn white along the hinge edge. this is the only corner that appears worn rather than directly damaged.

top right rear. the plastic is torn here and it seems to line up with a "gouging" into the edge of the top flap. there is also some tearing from the hinge down the edge of the box. appears something pushed down from above in a direction that was pushing the back of the box away from the side.

last 2 show the top flap hinge. there is what looks to me like a score mark which would serve as a guide for folding the top flap when the box is constructed. i don't see anything that makes me think the top flap has ever been open.

left side seam

right side seam

h-seam. there's also a hole over the word "knock" in the middle of the pic. i'm guessing it's a vent hole? doesn't look torn.

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Edited: 02/10/2011 at 01:34 AM by Lincoln

Feb 9, 2011 at 4:38:29 AM

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$130

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Feb 9, 2011 at 12:30:21 PM

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There are so many freaking fakes flooding the market lately. I'm sorry, but your copy looks fake man.

I legit copy is worth around $150-$250 depending on condition. Yours would probably still sell for $115 if put on eBay. Even though I know it's DEFINITELY fake... There's not doubt in my mind.

Edited to add: I'd love it if you'd send this into VGA. I've always wondered if they'd rate fake seals. I'm sure they do because they are money hungry.

Edited: 02/09/2011 at 12:32 PM by Bournano

Feb 9, 2011 at 12:37:58 PM

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what looks fake about it? do you want better pictures of some part of it? i can take more. i don't have much experience handling sealed nes games but everything seem right to me.

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Feb 9, 2011 at 12:45:52 PM

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You may have more luck selling your groovy, wood grain, retro TV set.

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Feb 9, 2011 at 1:08:55 PM

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I think it should have had an H-seam.

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Feb 9, 2011 at 1:12:05 PM

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Originally posted by: Lincoln

what looks fake about it? do you want better pictures of some part of it? i can take more. i don't have much experience handling sealed nes games but everything seem right to me.

In the picture you can tell the cellophane has been stretched in several parts around the box. The horizontal seamed cellophane used on NES games doesn't stretch well at all, it tares rather than stretches.
Underneath the cellophane you can clearly see parts of the box have been whitened from possibly being open or dinged up before.
The horizontal seam on the edges look like total crap. Looks like something a guy with a sad sealing machine put together.
Stressing the most obvious indication once again, if this game had been beat up with much while sealed, it would have torn through!
No vent holes.

Feb 9, 2011 at 1:29:06 PM

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I think calling it fake based on those pics is jumping the gun a bit. It may be, but you can't really tell if that whiteness is whiteness or just glare from the pics as they are fairly blurry to me.

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Feb 9, 2011 at 1:31:19 PM

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in fact my sense is that the whiteness *is* glare and its probably legit and just beat to shit. But I really can't tell either way and I don't see how anyone could, from those pics. Bournano you must have microscopes for eyes

if you can tell from jpgs if something has ventholes or not. Rare is the jpg even capable of showing that.

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Feb 9, 2011 at 1:39:56 PM

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I'm going with inconclusive as well. Nothing about that screams "Obviously a fake", but all of the wear make it hard to confirm as real too.

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Feb 9, 2011 at 2:24:18 PM

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thanks for the input everyone. i'll try to get some better pictures tonight.

some points:

there is a hole in the back plastic, below the h-seam, which i think is probably a vent hole. it does not look like a tear. i'll get a pic of this.

some of the corners look white in the pic but it's glare or the edge of the cardboard where the box has been smooshed enough to make an edge visible. i don't recall any worn corners under the plastic. will review when i get home. the corners appear to be the result of sandwiching moreso than the box taking a hit on the corners, which would explain why the corners have not poked through.

i found this at a garage sale last year (i posted it in my finder's keepers thread at that time) with one other open complete game. i paid less for it than a nice open complete copy goes for so even if this is a reseal i wouldn't have the impression of being scammed, just unlucky i guess.

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Feb 9, 2011 at 3:15:48 PM

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H-seem looks to crisp to be fake, although it's beat to hell and back. I say real and good luck selling!

Feb 9, 2011 at 6:49:11 PM

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Wow... I feel bad for the sealed gaming community.

Even serious collectors can't tell fake from real anymore... Oh well. At least my bad boys are real, and I know it... Because I bought them from Bronty. xD

This game screams fake. A local gaming store near me has a fake NES sealing machine that can do a MUCH better job than this. I'm not even joking. I'm going to fake a few and post them. See what people say...

Feb 9, 2011 at 6:59:24 PM

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Also... how did you come about this game?

Feb 9, 2011 at 7:03:25 PM

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Originally posted by: Lincoln

i found this at a garage sale last year

Originally posted by: Bournano

At least my bad boys are real, and I know it... Because I bought them from Bronty. xD

Originally posted by: Bronty

its probably legit and just beat to shit.

Feb 9, 2011 at 11:34:02 PM

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^^^I'm aware Bronty was the man claiming they were legit. My statement was supposed to be slightly humorous because of the irony.

Anyways, he bought it at a garage sale. Meaning he probably got it for a few bucks, so it's not big deal.

Feb 10, 2011 at 1:34:04 AM

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more pictures added to first post. also have make a correction from the previous post- there are 2 corners where the plastic is torn. and as an addendum, the plastic doesn't look stretched, just wrinkled because the box has deformed and is creating tension in different directions.

so i guess back to the original question, does it look legit, and what's it worth ?

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Feb 10, 2011 at 8:07:05 AM

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I'm saying probably legit, especially since the whitened corners have actually poked through the wrap. That's very common wear on sealed games, you'd only have to worry if the wear was under the shrinkwrap. Box also appears unopened.

There has to be motive to reseal a game in the first place. Game has to be high value for a high profit motive, or relatively pristine since the CIB to sealed multiplier can be quite high for a MINT game. This game is neither, and no one would waste valuable time trying to make a perfect reseal on a beat game. Might I add, a beat game that has never been opened, and those don't exactly grow on trees.

Feb 10, 2011 at 12:25:20 PM

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Originally posted by: Bournano

Wow... I feel bad for the sealed gaming community.

Even serious collectors can't tell fake from real anymore... Oh well. At least my bad boys are real, and I know it... Because I bought them from Bronty. xD

This game screams fake. A local gaming store near me has a fake NES sealing machine that can do a MUCH better job than this. I'm not even joking. I'm going to fake a few and post them. See what people say...

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Feb 10, 2011 at 12:26:35 PM

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Originally posted by: Bournano

^^^I'm aware Bronty was the man claiming they were legit. My statement was supposed to be slightly humorous because of the irony.

Anyways, he bought it at a garage sale. Meaning he probably got it for a few bucks, so it's not big deal.

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Feb 10, 2011 at 12:35:13 PM

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Bounano

I did not claim it was legit; I said it inconclusive based on the first set of pics but if I had to guess, legit.

I'm on my phone so can't see this second set of pics yet but based on the first set I still thimnk you are jumping the gun. You find it slightly humourous that I am unsure but I find it slightly humourous that you ARE sure

. At least based on the first pics.

Keep in mind. Sealed games from different eras can look a little different. Plastic changed a little over time. Vent holes changed over time. I have seen sealed smb3s that were certainly legit with side seams exactly like the ones here that you are taking issue with. You view the side seams as evidence it is fake I view it as evidence it's real. Anyhooo.... It's always fun to debate. I'd put the value in this condition at 50 bucks. 75 if you got lucky. Assuming it's legit

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Feb 10, 2011 at 12:55:24 PM

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Condition aside, I'm leaning towards legit on this one.

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Feb 10, 2011 at 7:25:07 PM

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Also, you can see the color of the original cardboard near the opening in several of the updated pics. None of the sealed games I've come across have I ever seen this, but then again... I've never run by such a beat up sealed game.

I'm still going with fake. But fake or not, it doesn't matter. All that matters is if the buyer/owner thinks it is.

Feb 10, 2011 at 7:30:21 PM

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Posted this to show you what I meant in the post above about cardboard showing.

Feb 10, 2011 at 7:32:47 PM

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Originally posted by: Bournano

Honestly, both areas look like glare to me. If you were to open the box, it looks more, to me, like the "hinge" is where you have the glare arrow pointing. It doesn't seem like the white line from opening it would appear where you are saying it has. If you follow the contours of the box, denting and all, the "white line" follows it explicitly, lending to the fact that it's glare and not where the box was opened.

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