Originally posted by: buyatari2
Originally posted by: Br81zad
Originally posted by: buttheadrulesagain
Originally posted by: Br81zad
Dude, Chinaman is not the prefered nomenclature. Asian American, please.
Also, to play devil's advocate, how can you definitively say that the darwinian stance is even more wrong? Might this be a latent population control device to prevent overcrowding? It's no secret that modern medicine has lead to sustained population booms, I sincerely doubt that our progress as a species will be stymied because a small minority elect not to procreate.
"A latent population control device you say? Surely you're joking" - probably what you're thinking
But it's not an unheard of phenomenon in nature for this sort of change to occur. Take the grasshopper for instance. When the population density of grasshoppers grows too high, a chemical in their brain is released triggering physical changes that turn them into locusts. Dont believe me? Read this.
http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/a-brain-chemical-changes-...
My point is, maybe we have evolved to the point where the need for every human to procreate is not so vital to our survival anymore. It could be part of our evolution.
Our brain is much more complex than a grasshoppers, I know this. But couldn't something along these lines be a possibility?
Biological Evolution doesn't work that way. All that matters for evolution is that the trait selected for gives an advantage for reproduction, so the gene(s) related to that trait will have more copies in the next generation.
So I guess the real question is what causes certain individuals to be attracted to the same sex? Is it a trait? An abnormality in the brain itself? It's not a choice, I think that much has been discovered.
And as you called it, maladaptive. Is it far fetched to see maladaptive traits perpetuate given that we have moved past fighting for survival? I'm genuinely curious. I'm a mechanical engineer with zero bio background, lol
I'm not so sure it is one thing across the board. We really haven't been able to nail down many behavior in humans to a single cause no matter how much we have tried.
It is possible that in one case a man was born leaning this way and still possible that a woman somewhere else was screwed over one too many times by men, hates men now.
I have 2 topics to discuss.
#1 - More babies doesn't equal better survival. It's more complicated than that. It is to the advantage of a virus to reproduce more slowly. If it kills it's host too quickly by "making babies too fast", the virus itself dies out faster. If it becomes apparent that the host is affected too quickly because the virus "made babies too fast," other victims will avoid the host and the virus dies out. Weaker virii proliferate better than strong ones. The reason we don't have as many terrible plagues isn't completely from modern medicine. These strains wipe themselves out by being too effective. When these weaknesses are observed in humans it is immediately thrown out as "maladaptive."
#2 - The physiology of people: When looking at sexuality, people tend to completely seperate men and women. This is the wrong thing to do. A man and a woman are obviously different, but inherent who they "are" from their parents. Women have offspring and can have multiple offspring. If a person's sexuality causes them to seek sex more than others, they can make up for any people with a lack of sex drive. (This just lead me to realize that celebacy is even more unnatural than homosexuality and therefore should be legislated against
) Now, let's look at a family unit that has 3 children. Let's say there are 2 brothers and 1 sister. Now, let's say they inherited a trait that causes all of them to love dick. As long as the woman has 3 or more children because of her increased love of dick, the trait of loving d...the trait of being attracted sexually to males is still helping the species proliferate. This is why being gay doesn't lead to a dead end. The same that makes you "gay" might make your opposite sex sibling or relative have enough babies to more than make up for you.