Originally posted by: sadikyo

Maybe you could share a google spreadsheet but view only access, so we could see more real-time updates as you update based on input here? However you want to do it is fine - but I've found collaborative projects are easier with something like that. You could grant edit access to some but that could get messy also.

It takes some time editing the database so it is easier to tweak the values beforehand, then update the database when it is mostly ready.

Originally posted by: quest4nes

Man brock. Your montana game collecting experience is different than texas based on tgise updates. Just looked through them closer. Lemmings an r2? Ive seen that game no more than 5-10 times over tge years. Youve come across that at an r2 rate? Id place it in the r4/5 territory personally. Def is interesting seeing what people see of certain titles

Originally posted by: Stryphos
  And see I wouldn't put it as an R2 but I wouldn't give it a 5 either as I've seen it a number of times.  I'd be more apt to give it a 3/4.  Lemmings 2, on the other hand, I feel is deserving of it's 6 it's very uncommon for me to find that in the wild.

 

Originally posted by: Brock Landers

Here is the first set of updates I had come up with a month or two ago

3 Ninjas Kick Back - 7/7/8
Addams Family Values - 4/4/4
Adventures of Yogi Bear - 4/4/4
Alien vs. Predator - 5/5/5
American Tail, An: Fievel Goes West - 5/5/5
Art of Fighting - 3/3/3
Axelay - 3/3/3
Barbie Super Model - 4/4/4
Batman Returns - 3/3/3
Battle Blaze - 4/4/4
Beauty and the Beast (Disney's) - 5/5/5
Blackthorne - 4/4/4
Brandish - 5/5/5
Brawl Brothers - 4/4/4
Bust-a-Move - 4/4/4
Cannondale Cup - 7/7/7
Chester Cheetah: Wild Wild Quest - 4/4/4
Chuck Rock - 3/3/3
College Football USA '97: The Road to New Orleans - 4/4/4
Cybernator - 3/3/3
Demon's Crest - 5/5/5
Dirt Trax FX - 4/4/4
Doom - 3/3/3
Doomsday Warrior - 5/5/5
Equinox - 4/4/4
F1 Pole Position - 5/5/5
F1 ROC - 4/4/4
Fatal Fury Special - 4/4/4
FIFA Soccer '96 - 4/4/4
FIFA Soccer '97 - 6/6/6
Final Fight 2 - 3/3/3
Football Fury - 6/6/6
Ghoul Patrol - 6/6/6
Gods - 3/3/3
GunForce - 4/4/4
Head-On Soccer - 7/7/7
Hook - 3/3/3
Hyper V-Ball - 5/5/5
Indiana Jones' Greatest Adventures - 3/3/3
Jetsons: Invasion of the Planet Pirates - 6/6/6
Jim Power: The Lost Dimension in 3D - 3/3/3
Jimmy Houston's Bass Tournament USA - 5/5/5
Jurassic Park 2: The Chaos Continues - 4/4/4
Justice League Task Force - 4/4/4
Kawasaki Superbike Challenge - 7/7/7
Kendo Rage - 5/5/5
King of Monsters - 2/2/2
King of Monsters 2 - 3/3/3
Lagoon - 3/3/3
Legend - 6/6/6
Lemmings - 2/2/2
Lufia & The Fortress of Doom - 3/3/3
Madden NFL '97 - 2/2/2
Madden NFL '98 - 3/3/3
Magic Boy - 5/5/5
Mark Davis' The Fishing Master - 5/5/5
Marvel Super Heroes: War of the Gems - 5/5/5
Mary Shelley's Frankenstein - 4/4/4
Mega Man Soccer - 5/5/5
Metal Morph - 7/7/7
Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers: Fighting Edition - 4/4/4
Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers: The Movie - 4/4/4
Musya: Classic Japanese Tale of Horror - 6/6/6
Natsume Championship Wrestling - 3/3/3
NBA Live '97 - 3/3/3
Nosferatu - 5/5/5
Outlander - 3/3/3
Prince of Persia - 3/3/3
SimCity 2000 - 5/5/5
Simpsons, The: Virtual Bart - 4/4/4
Skyblazer - 4/4/4
Sparkster - 5/5/5
Spider-Man - 3/3/3
Spider-Man: Separation Anxiety - 4/4/4
Street Fighter Alpha 2 - 4/4/4
Sunset Riders - 3/3/3
Super Buster Bros. - 5/5/5
Super Soccer Champ - 4/4/4
Super Turrican - 4/4/4
Super Valis IV - 4/4/4
Tecmo Super Bowl II: Special Edition - 5/5/5
Temco Super Bowl III: Final Edition - 3/3/3
Tiny Toons Adventures: Wacky Sports Challenge - 4/4/4
Ultima VI: The False Prophet - 3/3/3
Ultima: Runes of Virtue II - 3/3/3
Untouchables, The - 5/5/5
WCW Super Brawl Wrestling - 4/4/4
Wolfchild - 3/3/3
Wolverine: Adamantium Rage - 3/3/3


Additions:

MACS (three different releases?) - 10/na/na
MBR/SR - 9/9/9
Donkey Kong Competition - 9/?/9
Star Fox Weekend - 9/?/?
 

Originally posted by: Too Beaucoup

How are these rarity values being determined? Is there a database somewhere to see how many copies of every game were produced/sold? I see quite a few games on the list that are rated at a 1-3 and they sell on eBay for $50-$80 dollars. And they also aren't games I see out in the wild or at my local retro stores very often.

Just to pick out a few, Sunset Riders, King of Dragons and Knights of the Round are all rated 1-3, yet those all sell for $70+ on eBay and I rarely see them when I'm out and about. And according to the official chart, a 3 is still considered a common game. Granted, all 3 of those games are extremely fun games, but if they're really common games, I can't imagine they'd be $70+ just because they're fun to play.

Originally posted by: Too Beaucoup

How are these rarity values being determined? Is there a database somewhere to see how many copies of every game were produced/sold? I see quite a few games on the list that are rated at a 1-3 and they sell on eBay for $50-$80 dollars. And they also aren't games I see out in the wild or at my local retro stores very often.

Just to pick out a few, Sunset Riders, King of Dragons and Knights of the Round are all rated 1-3, yet those all sell for $70+ on eBay and I rarely see them when I'm out and about. And according to the official chart, a 3 is still considered a common game. Granted, all 3 of those games are extremely fun games, but if they're really common games, I can't imagine they'd be $70+ just because they're fun to play.

Originally posted by: quest4nes
 

the list you are looking at is the very database we are trying to make actually more accurate, and the point of the thread

Originally posted by: Too Beaucoup
 

No, I understand that. I was just curious how the values were being calculated, in the first place, when the rarity listings were first created.  

Originally posted by: guitarzombie

The NES one needs a lot of work too.. These games should NOT be '4's:


Chubby Cherub
Break Time
Indy Jones Taito
Isolated Warrior
Touchdown Fever
Untouchables
Rally Bike
George Forman
Power Punch 2
Digger T Rock
Alien 3
F15 Strike
Dragons Lair

Originally posted by: quest4nes

Man brock. Your montana game collecting experience is different than texas based on tgise updates. Just looked through them closer. Lemmings an r2? Ive seen that game no more than 5-10 times over tge years. Youve come across that at an r2 rate? Id place it in the r4/5 territory personally. Def is interesting seeing what people see of certain titles

Originally posted by: Holy_Ostrich

I'd almost say it's safe to go by publisher as (you have to figure) the likes of Seta, Gametek, Cybersoft, Raya Systems and Sofel didn't release nearly as many copies of their games as Konami, Capcom or Nintendo themselves likely did. Even though lots of their games hold next to zero value in terms of the more popular companies, I'd still say they're all minimum of 5's across the board with their releases with some obviously being rarer then that. Have you ever seen a TKO Boxing or Air Cavalry at a local gamestore? Or a Musya, Zool or Cacoma Knight for instance? I know I have not.

Taito has consistently been another developer that's got more uncommon (but sought after) games for the early Nintendo systems, and looking over a list of their released games for the SNES, besides the Darius and sports games... Sonic Blastman 2, Jetsons and Flintstones are all pricey and all fairly uncommon/rare.