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Hagane found in the Wild! But the gamestore owner is being unrealistic

Mar 27, 2013 at 11:40:14 AM
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Originally posted by: DoctorDan

Wrong. Late in the SNES's lifetime, the cart production got outsourced from Japan to Mexico, where it was cheaper to produce the carts. These carts are typically identified by the prefix of "M/xxx" on the label code, and are known for having matte labels instead of satin labels, black and white manuals, and less-shiny boxes.
Hmm, you don't think it's people switching out the back pieces cuz of rental stickers? Anybody want to share a picture or a link with a Hagane not showing M/SNS-AHGE? That would be interesting.
I, as well as everyone replying here, can see pictures on forums and auction sites. For the most part when they do show the back of Hagane, it's a Mexico back.  I have seen a few with the japan back though. Just a question, as certain things raise my curiosity.



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Mar 27, 2013 at 12:05:41 PM
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Originally posted by: DoctorDan

Wrong. Late in the SNES's lifetime, the cart production got outsourced from Japan to Mexico, where it was cheaper to produce the carts. These carts are typically identified by the prefix of "M/xxx" on the label code, and are known for having matte labels instead of satin labels, black and white manuals, and less-shiny boxes.


No not wrong. You just explained that there are mexico rereleases. I know qll about majesco releases. I was explaining that the game had two obvious runs. One with blockbuster exclusive and one with not which is obviously the mexico rerelease. Not wrong

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Mar 27, 2013 at 1:01:55 PM
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Hagane was a Blockbuster exclusive - it was officially released NOWHERE ELSE in the US. That is why it's hard to find. There was no such thing as a 'non-Blockbuster Hagane'. I was explaining WHY some games had 'made in Mexico' and why others had 'made in Japan'. I'm unsure whether or not Hagane, being released in 1995 in America, even HAD a Japanese-made US production run.

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Mar 27, 2013 at 1:16:59 PM
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Originally posted by: DoctorDan

Hagane was a Blockbuster exclusive - it was officially released NOWHERE ELSE in the US. That is why it's hard to find. There was no such thing as a 'non-Blockbuster Hagane'. I was explaining WHY some games had 'made in Mexico' and why others had 'made in Japan'. I'm unsure whether or not Hagane, being released in 1995 in America, even HAD a Japanese-made US production run.

Was thinking of beast wars for n64 for the blockbuster box thing.  But im pretty positive this game had both a retail and blockbuster release. we have discussed it on here before at length because there are people who are 100 percent positive they bought it originally at a store.


There was one on ebay that had a "video superstore sticker on the manual" so blockbuster couldnt have been the only place for this. 

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Mar 27, 2013 at 1:41:55 PM
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Maybe it didn't ship well to USA stores, and sales were low in the USA. Or shipments were miss counted. Maybe Stores weren't placing as many orders for later released games, there are a bunch of differnet factors.
Maybe there is a burial ground of haganes or a storage of them.
http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/c...

QUESTFORNES comment below, is my point exactly. Thank you my good sir. I do get excited and get around my ponit sometimes. You hit it right on point

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Edited: 03/27/2013 at 01:48 PM by cbrown0806

Mar 27, 2013 at 1:44:08 PM
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Originally posted by: cbrown0806

I think I may cause a bit of a stir up with my next comment. I have a few points, some of which.. well
But is there anybody who remebers seeing ads or tv or radio ads for games only being released at blockbusters or hollywood videos? I sure don't, and if there were such ads I missed, wouldn't they be for Megaman or Mortal Kombat exclusives or million copy selling games, that the companies know would sell, if it was just an exclusive release??? Why Hagane and FStones 2, per say. I know blockbuster was HUGE back in the 90's, but proof of these ads hasn't surfaced. I mean people have display cards or ads for this and that, display cases, but nothing of Hagane? I just wish we could crossout this blockbuster exclusive stuff.
I just can't see a game being produced and only being for Rent in the BIG OLD USA. It's not like in 94 or 95 USA was just getting into gaming!!!
Maybe it didn't ship well to USA stores, and sales were low in the USA. Or shipments were miss counted. Maybe Stores weren't placing as many orders for later released games, there are a bunch of differnet factors.
Maybe there is a burial ground of haganes or a storage of them.
http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/ci_17428493


Blockbuster exclusive gets thrown around a little too much. Rental exclusive should be more of the term. There are gmaes that had the blockbuster exclusive logo on the box. This happened because late in the life cycle of a system games werent as mass produced because demand was lower. They knew they wouldnt sell well so they sold it to stores that rented games on much smaller scale then a full retail store run.

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Mar 27, 2013 at 6:54:56 PM
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I didn't read much into depth here, but would something be considered 'in the wild' being buying it at retail? I won't go into how the price was agreed upon. Either way it was a nice retail find for sure even if the label is hosed.

Mar 27, 2013 at 9:10:38 PM
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Originally posted by: captmorgandrinker

After ebay fees and whatnot, if you gave him $140 cash in that condition I think it would be fair.

If your Chrono Trigger CIB is in really good shape with both maps I think he may want to reconsider that trade.

And let him/his wife know that ebay completed items are a good value of worth, just not the inflated BINs that you see.
This.

He was an idiot for not taking the CIB Chrono Trigger as a trade (especially if it had both maps). That without a doubt is worth more then a ripped/torn label Hagane, legit label or not.

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Mar 28, 2013 at 12:19:04 AM
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Finding it in a shop or on Craigslist is not "in the wild", it's at a store or someone posted it like on ebay.

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Mar 28, 2013 at 12:43:04 AM
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Originally posted by: dra600n

Finding it in a shop or on Craigslist is not "in the wild", it's at a store or someone posted it like on ebay.

Finding it in a shop is Indeed "the wild".. Anything not already in the hands of a collector is the Wild.. Any and all Craigslist postings are the Wild as well



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Mar 28, 2013 at 3:44:40 AM
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Yeah its in the wild. We should just distinguish the two. Retail wild vs dust bin wild

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Mar 28, 2013 at 10:47:45 AM
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Originally posted by: K3VBOT

Originally posted by: dra600n

Finding it in a shop or on Craigslist is not "in the wild", it's at a store or someone posted it like on ebay.

Finding it in a shop is Indeed "the wild".. Anything not already in the hands of a collector is the Wild.. Any and all Craigslist postings are the Wild as well

 

So if I go to Gamestop or Best Buy, buy Call of Duty, I found it in the wild? Hardly.

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Mar 28, 2013 at 10:50:09 AM
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Originally posted by: dra600n

Originally posted by: K3VBOT

Originally posted by: dra600n

Finding it in a shop or on Craigslist is not "in the wild", it's at a store or someone posted it like on ebay.

Finding it in a shop is Indeed "the wild".. Anything not already in the hands of a collector is the Wild.. Any and all Craigslist postings are the Wild as well

 

So if I go to Gamestop or Best Buy, buy Call of Duty, I found it in the wild? Hardly.
If I go to Gamestop and buy NCAA 2K3 basketball on GC for cheap, it is indeed in the wild.



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Mar 28, 2013 at 10:52:29 AM
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Originally posted by: doner24

Originally posted by: dra600n

Originally posted by: K3VBOT

Originally posted by: dra600n

Finding it in a shop or on Craigslist is not "in the wild", it's at a store or someone posted it like on ebay.

Finding it in a shop is Indeed "the wild".. Anything not already in the hands of a collector is the Wild.. Any and all Craigslist postings are the Wild as well

 

So if I go to Gamestop or Best Buy, buy Call of Duty, I found it in the wild? Hardly.
If I go to Gamestop and buy NCAA 2K3 basketball on GC for cheap, it is indeed in the wild.

 

How is it in the wild? It's at a store. You're buying it from a place that originally sold it at release. It makes zero sense. That's like me going to Walmart and buying a bunch of banana's in the wild. No, I bought it from Walmart.

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Mar 28, 2013 at 10:55:07 AM
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Originally posted by: dra600n

Originally posted by: doner24

Originally posted by: dra600n

Originally posted by: K3VBOT

Originally posted by: dra600n

Finding it in a shop or on Craigslist is not "in the wild", it's at a store or someone posted it like on ebay.

Finding it in a shop is Indeed "the wild".. Anything not already in the hands of a collector is the Wild.. Any and all Craigslist postings are the Wild as well

 

So if I go to Gamestop or Best Buy, buy Call of Duty, I found it in the wild? Hardly.
If I go to Gamestop and buy NCAA 2K3 basketball on GC for cheap, it is indeed in the wild.

 

How is it in the wild? It's at a store. You're buying it from a place that originally sold it at release. It makes zero sense. That's like me going to Walmart and buying a bunch of banana's in the wild. No, I bought it from Walmart.
Essentially it is just arguing semantics. My definition of the wild is anything not bought from the internet where stuff is usually almost always available. At any point in time I can go on Amazon or ebay and buy just about any game. Not true with most game stores though.



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Mar 28, 2013 at 10:55:44 AM
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Originally posted by: dra600n

Originally posted by: doner24

Originally posted by: dra600n

Originally posted by: K3VBOT

Originally posted by: dra600n

Finding it in a shop or on Craigslist is not "in the wild", it's at a store or someone posted it like on ebay.

Finding it in a shop is Indeed "the wild".. Anything not already in the hands of a collector is the Wild.. Any and all Craigslist postings are the Wild as well

 

So if I go to Gamestop or Best Buy, buy Call of Duty, I found it in the wild? Hardly.
If I go to Gamestop and buy NCAA 2K3 basketball on GC for cheap, it is indeed in the wild.

 

How is it in the wild? It's at a store. You're buying it from a place that originally sold it at release. It makes zero sense. That's like me going to Walmart and buying a bunch of banana's in the wild. No, I bought it from Walmart.
Dude, I bought a bottle of Jack, some twizzlers, and some stay hard pills from a liquor store in the wild. It's a fucking jungle out there. I had to beat the fuck out of a coyote with a baseball bat til coins started flying out it's ass and all I got was 15 experience points.


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Mar 28, 2013 at 10:59:45 AM
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Originally posted by: doner24

Originally posted by: dra600n

Originally posted by: doner24

Originally posted by: dra600n

Originally posted by: K3VBOT

Originally posted by: dra600n

Finding it in a shop or on Craigslist is not "in the wild", it's at a store or someone posted it like on ebay.

Finding it in a shop is Indeed "the wild".. Anything not already in the hands of a collector is the Wild.. Any and all Craigslist postings are the Wild as well

 

So if I go to Gamestop or Best Buy, buy Call of Duty, I found it in the wild? Hardly.
If I go to Gamestop and buy NCAA 2K3 basketball on GC for cheap, it is indeed in the wild.

 

How is it in the wild? It's at a store. You're buying it from a place that originally sold it at release. It makes zero sense. That's like me going to Walmart and buying a bunch of banana's in the wild. No, I bought it from Walmart.
Essentially it is just arguing semantics. My definition of the wild is anything not bought from the internet where stuff is usually almost always available. At any point in time I can go on Amazon or ebay and buy just about any game. Not true with most game stores though.

 

I get what you're saying, but if in the wild means anything not online, then everything you buy is in the wild - gas, cigarettes, alcohol, food, cars, etc. Saying that finding a game in the wild should be: flea market, garage sale/tag sale/estate sale, and not a place that's sole purpose is, say in this case, video games/entertainment. It's not really semantics. If finding everything in the wild is anywhere not online, then that phrase is just pointless and meaningless.

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Mar 28, 2013 at 11:03:19 AM
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Originally posted by: dra600n

Originally posted by: doner24

Originally posted by: dra600n

Originally posted by: doner24

Originally posted by: dra600n

Originally posted by: K3VBOT

Originally posted by: dra600n

Finding it in a shop or on Craigslist is not "in the wild", it's at a store or someone posted it like on ebay.

Finding it in a shop is Indeed "the wild".. Anything not already in the hands of a collector is the Wild.. Any and all Craigslist postings are the Wild as well

 

So if I go to Gamestop or Best Buy, buy Call of Duty, I found it in the wild? Hardly.
If I go to Gamestop and buy NCAA 2K3 basketball on GC for cheap, it is indeed in the wild.

 

How is it in the wild? It's at a store. You're buying it from a place that originally sold it at release. It makes zero sense. That's like me going to Walmart and buying a bunch of banana's in the wild. No, I bought it from Walmart.
Essentially it is just arguing semantics. My definition of the wild is anything not bought from the internet where stuff is usually almost always available. At any point in time I can go on Amazon or ebay and buy just about any game. Not true with most game stores though.

 

I get what you're saying, but if in the wild means anything not online, then everything you buy is in the wild - gas, cigarettes, alcohol, food, cars, etc. Saying that finding a game in the wild should be: flea market, garage sale/tag sale/estate sale, and not a place that's sole purpose is, say in this case, video games/entertainment. It's not really semantics. If finding everything in the wild is anywhere not online, then that phrase is just pointless and meaningless.
Actually it is exactly semantics as we are arguing the definition of the word.

You say what you think wild should be and I say what my definition is. It is always used that way in my local group of collecting friends as well when talking about finds, making it easy to discern that it wasn't from ebay or a similar website, so it is certainly not pointless or meaningless.



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Mar 28, 2013 at 11:04:22 AM
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And regarding the statement about gas, alcohol and other stuff??? Who cares, I am only talking in context of games.

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Mar 28, 2013 at 11:32:36 AM
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Got it. Everything not found on the internet. I just picked up my Mega Man energy drink in the wild at Subway.

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Wow, that escalated quickly... I consider anything not bought from a collector, off eBay/Amazon, or bought new from a retail store (best buy/walmart/etc.) the Wild.

Garage Sales, Flea Markets, Craigslist, thrift stores, used game stores, friends, etc as "the Wild"

I think that got a little out of context with buying a soda and cigarets at a gas station

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But used game stores are retail. They generally use ebay and amazon for pricing. Whether you buy it off of ebay, amazon, or a used game store, you're still going to a place that's heavily influenced by those places. What's the difference of searching on ebay for weeks/months to find a game you really want, and going to a used game store and having them hold it for you when/if it gets traded in? There's hardly a difference. What's the difference of going to a used game store and Best Buy and placing a reserve on a title? Be it a newly released game, or a generation old, there's not really a difference. The difference is retail outlets like Best Buy are run by corporate and follow guidelines in all their stores, while a local mom and pop retro game shop is owned by collectors (more or less, they had to have a high interest in the hobby to start a business). So you don't consider buying from a collector as "in the wild", but a retro game shop that most likely has a collector in charge is different?

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Not all retro game shops are run by collectors. None of them around here are anyways. Though many game stores run through eBay or Amazon for pricing, not all stores ask for retail.. It depends on the store for pricing, but price isn't why I consider used game stores the Wild. I consider a retro game store part of the wild because you never really know what all they're going to have.. I can get on eBay right now and buy EVO or Earthbound all day long. You can't do that with many game stores (unless their price is super high). Best Buy is a retail store where you buy new games only. I don't see anyone walking out with a sealed copy of Mario Kart. Good luck trying to put Aero Fighters on reserve from there.

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Obviously I wasn't referring to buying Aero Fighters at Best Buy, but used game stores have current titles as well, so I can go in and reserve a copy of Call of Duty or Madden 12 either there or at Best Buy (maybe not Madden 12 now, but you get the gist). There's also plenty of games that don't show up regularly on ebay or Amazon. Go look for a Mountain Bike Rally/Speed Racer CIB, or cart only. Only 1 in the last few months sold. It's not readily available on there, so that's a moot point. You never know if a retail store is going to be in stock of popular games for months. Look at the Wii when it came out - you had a hard time finding it.

And while you might not know what rare titles a shop will have (hell, most people didn't know if they were going to be finding a Super Mario All Stars Wii when they walked into Gamestop or Best Buy for a while until it was rereleased), but you can be certain they will have a lot of the popular titles, a bunch of commons, and a plethora of sports games.

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