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Feb 5, 2012 at 1:24:19 PM
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Dealing with sealed games, you sometimes gets the snide comments/remarks. So I feel for you proto guys who basically go through the same gauntlet every time the subject comes up about dumping or selling protos.

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Feb 10, 2012 at 3:05:56 PM
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A lot of people would be willing to "walk the walk" if they had the money, or pinball machine to do so. Not to many people have $1000s at hand, so they arn't able to. Why not just have a fundraiser to get the rom released, most of the people who want to play the game would donate. It worked recently for the GBC version of Resident Evil, this is a much more infamous game, and is complete unlike Resident Evil GBC so the amount would be met no matter what. Or why not make a deal with a site like www.retrousb.com... to get reproductions made, like how the site did with Airball. This is a game lots of people would love to play, and it shouldn't stay lost. I'm sure this post won't make a difference, or change anyones minds on what to do with the game. But it's worth a try.


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Feb 12, 2012 at 1:13:50 AM
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Originally posted by: MyNameIsEarl

A lot of people would be willing to "walk the walk" if they had the money, or pinball machine to do so. Not to many people have $1000s at hand, so they arn't able to. Why not just have a fundraiser to get the rom released, most of the people who want to play the game would donate. It worked recently for the GBC version of Resident Evil, this is a much more infamous game, and is complete unlike Resident Evil GBC so the amount would be met no matter what. Or why not make a deal with a site like www.retrousb.com... to get reproductions made, like how the site did with Airball. This is a game lots of people would love to play, and it shouldn't stay lost. I'm sure this post won't make a difference, or change anyones minds on what to do with the game. But it's worth a try.
 
You're new to the forums so you haven't had time to do some research on this...

I had a GBC version of Resident Evil myself and it was pretty complete. I have no idea if this is the same person who the fundraiser went to (I thought it was) but the one I had that I sold was definitely complete.

Airball from Retrousb.com came from me...

I've done a few repro runs and they don't always sell. You also aren't thinking about the time involved and money up front with boxes/manuals/etc. I don't exactly have time on my hands for all that. Did that once with War on Wheels with someone and my friend took literally 8 months to get the things done after we took pre-orders. I haven't exactly been selling through the roof with War on Wheels and Indy Heat and Ghostbusters II, so it's a bit of "been there" done that.

If someone else wants to do the repros, they are more than welcome to, but I'm not getting involved in that.

If you also read this thread you can see how I can't win either way with this. If I ask for money I'm "greedy" but if you ask someone else to give away something tfor free they won't do it...it's kind of whatever to me.

I'll gladly trade this for a Stadium Events box and manual, Medieval Madness Pinball machine, or good hard $$$.

If a group wants to do a fundraiser, so be it. I know someone is going to get it in the next 3 months or so...2-3 different people have asked about it with "serious" talks, but that's the status on it right now....

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Feb 12, 2012 at 1:20:26 PM
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Originally posted by: DreamTR

Originally posted by: MyNameIsEarl

A lot of people would be willing to "walk the walk" if they had the money, or pinball machine to do so. Not to many people have $1000s at hand, so they arn't able to. Why not just have a fundraiser to get the rom released, most of the people who want to play the game would donate. It worked recently for the GBC version of Resident Evil, this is a much more infamous game, and is complete unlike Resident Evil GBC so the amount would be met no matter what. Or why not make a deal with a site like www.retrousb.com... to get reproductions made, like how the site did with Airball. This is a game lots of people would love to play, and it shouldn't stay lost. I'm sure this post won't make a difference, or change anyones minds on what to do with the game. But it's worth a try.
 
You're new to the forums so you haven't had time to do some research on this...

I had a GBC version of Resident Evil myself and it was pretty complete. I have no idea if this is the same person who the fundraiser went to (I thought it was) but the one I had that I sold was definitely complete.

Airball from Retrousb.com came from me...

I've done a few repro runs and they don't always sell. You also aren't thinking about the time involved and money up front with boxes/manuals/etc. I don't exactly have time on my hands for all that. Did that once with War on Wheels with someone and my friend took literally 8 months to get the things done after we took pre-orders. I haven't exactly been selling through the roof with War on Wheels and Indy Heat and Ghostbusters II, so it's a bit of "been there" done that.

If someone else wants to do the repros, they are more than welcome to, but I'm not getting involved in that.

If you also read this thread you can see how I can't win either way with this. If I ask for money I'm "greedy" but if you ask someone else to give away something tfor free they won't do it...it's kind of whatever to me.

I'll gladly trade this for a Stadium Events box and manual, Medieval Madness Pinball machine, or good hard $$$.

If a group wants to do a fundraiser, so be it. I know someone is going to get it in the next 3 months or so...2-3 different people have asked about it with "serious" talks, but that's the status on it right now....
Why don't you name your price, so a fundraiser could get started. A fundraiser really seems like the way to go, so that way everyone will be able to play the game after it's over. I really think if you were to start one on assembler games or another site of that type, you'd be able to get back the money you spent on the game and then some.  



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Feb 13, 2012 at 9:17:17 PM
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Some people already have spoken about a fundraiser, so to answer your question, as I stated:

"I'll gladly trade this for a Stadium Events box and manual, Medieval Madness Pinball machine, or good hard $$$."

Meaning you already get an idea of the value I want. I'm not publicly announcing any fundraiser for this. Whoever wants to privately come up with money or what I want in trade first will get the game....

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Feb 14, 2012 at 8:23:15 AM
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I'll probably be crucified for this, but OH WELL. If I had the money for this game, I'd buy it....and I wouldn't release it.

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Feb 14, 2012 at 9:42:13 AM
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Originally posted by: War Pig

I'll probably be crucified for this, but OH WELL. If I had the money for this game, I'd buy it....and I wouldn't release it.


I love it.

Personally, I would probably do the same. Part of what makes the game special is that it is completely unreleased. Once it is dumped it loses that special something that it has now.

I can't really see any reason why people would argue with Dream on this. For one, he owns it, he can do as he pleases with it. Not to mention the fact that he has been in this game of collecting far longer than just about anyone, and I think he knows a thing or two. He's not being selfish, or greedy.

The game is a one-off. It's worth a fair amount as it sits.

If you paid $2K for something why would you want to release it and suddenly drop it's worth down to a few hundred, or less? If you were guaranteed to make your investment back, why not, but otherwise?


Edited: 02/14/2012 at 09:44 AM by T3rra

Feb 14, 2012 at 11:37:55 AM
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Originally posted by: Mindl3ss

If you paid $2K for something why would you want to release it and suddenly drop it's worth down to a few hundred, or less?


Matt and I spent $1,500 on Arcadia VI and did just that.  As to why...

Passion for the hobby?  An interest in sharing something special?  E-penis enhancement?

I have no problem with people recouping cost, but that isn't why any of us got in the game of proto collecting.  It's no place for pure profiteering, unless of course you're in the business of losing money

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Feb 14, 2012 at 12:04:08 PM
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Originally posted by: MrMark0673

Originally posted by: Mindl3ss

If you paid $2K for something why would you want to release it and suddenly drop it's worth down to a few hundred, or less?


Matt and I spent $1,500 on Arcadia VI and did just that.  As to why...

Passion for the hobby?  An interest in sharing something special?  E-penis enhancement?

I have no problem with people recouping cost, but that isn't why any of us got in the game of proto collecting.  It's no place for pure profiteering, unless of course you're in the business of losing money


And that's totally cool. If I had the money to drop on stuff like that I would do the same thing.

I have never been one for profiteering, and I'm not one for losing money. I can't really drop that much on a game, so doing so just to give it away would make absolutely no sense in my position. If I found one for $3 that is worth $1.5k I would have no problem releasing it.

The best example for me I can think of is when I was unemployed I bought Mega Man X3 for $3. They were going for $60+ (and still are) at the time. I ended up selling it for $20, just to recover the money I spent on some of the other games I picked up in the same lot. I was unemployed at the time, so I really could have used the extra $40...

My main thing is, why are people jumping on the guy for doing what he wants with his game?


Edited: 02/14/2012 at 12:04 PM by T3rra

Feb 14, 2012 at 6:58:28 PM
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My main thing is, why are people jumping on the guy for doing what he wants with his game?



The main problem is people keeping asking that. Over and over. And over...

Now moving onto something that HASN'T already been discussed in so many other topics a million times over, I can understand Dream not wanting to personally start a fundraiser for this thing. So if someone else wants to head one and be in charge of keeping all the money(in which case, they better have a reputation), hopefully they speak up since it sounds like this game will be sold eventually to an individual in the coming months, and there's no way of knowing if we'd ever see the game again after that.

This game sounds like it's gonna cost much more than that recent Resident Evil for GBC though, so I doubt any fundraiser can possibly meet any expectations.


Edited: 02/14/2012 at 07:00 PM by introless

Feb 14, 2012 at 9:10:51 PM
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If a fundraiser isn't held. The game will probably go to a private collector, and won't ever be dumped.

If a fundraiser isn't held, the game will probably be lost forever. This isn't a game that no one cares about being lost like Madden on game.com, this is a infamous proto that a lot of people have been dying to play since they first found out about it. So maybe someone could really get a fundraiser started.

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Feb 14, 2012 at 9:27:18 PM
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Originally posted by: MyNameIsEarl

If a fundraiser isn't held. The game will probably go to a private collector, and won't ever be dumped.

If a fundraiser isn't held, the game will probably be lost forever. This isn't a game that no one cares about being lost like Madden on game.com, this is a infamous proto that a lot of people have been dying to play since they first found out about it. So maybe someone could really get a fundraiser started.
If you want it done so badly, then stop asking others to do it and walk the walk yourself.



Feb 14, 2012 at 9:33:55 PM
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I think the price for those asking is around $7-12k that is what a MM will cost you. that is very condition dependent though and I'm sure the OP doesn't want a beater MM.

if someone starts a fundraiser to release this game, I will NOT be donating. Sorry.

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Feb 14, 2012 at 10:22:01 PM
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Originally posted by: LucasWeatherby

Originally posted by: MyNameIsEarl

If a fundraiser isn't held. The game will probably go to a private collector, and won't ever be dumped.

If a fundraiser isn't held, the game will probably be lost forever. This isn't a game that no one cares about being lost like Madden on game.com, this is a infamous proto that a lot of people have been dying to play since they first found out about it. So maybe someone could really get a fundraiser started.
If you want it done so badly, then stop asking others to do it and walk the walk yourself.

 

I never asked anyone to start a fundraiser, and have just been suggesting it, not telling anyone to start one. I'm a new member, and can be trusted, but doubt everyone would see me as trustworthy yet. Even if people do, I wouldn't want the responseability having to deal with peoples money.  


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Edited: 02/14/2012 at 10:25 PM by MyNameIsEarl

Feb 14, 2012 at 10:29:16 PM
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haha yeah it probably would be hard to get NA's trust with such a responsibility your first week. sorry if i sounded rude. this topic has just been going on for a while.

Feb 15, 2012 at 6:24:26 PM
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Well, for a fundraiser.. if 100 people donated 70-100 dollars a piece, then that is 7 - 10k. Which should cover it. Then you could keep a list of everyone who donated (over a certain amount - we'll say 85 for now) and they could receive a limited run copy of the game (they'll still need to pay for the repro) and the one available to the general public will be different. You could number the limited run, have a special case/box and include a special manual or even a thank you letter from Socks n' Bill ala the 'Letter from the Champ' available for MTIPP at NESCITY.

And I would be willing to handle the money if I were to be trusted - but that is also relative because if the fundraiser doesn't meet the needed amount then all of it would need to be refunded :/

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Feb 15, 2012 at 6:25:18 PM
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Double post!

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Originally posted by: Guntz

I must say though, it's almost movie-like that a repro collector gives his green horns a try at soldering a repro cartridge.
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Edited: 02/15/2012 at 06:25 PM by goldendark007

Feb 15, 2012 at 11:39:48 PM
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Originally posted by: goldendark007

 if 100 people donated 70-100 dollars a piece


this is the problem    I doubt you could find more than 20 who would donate that much.

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Feb 15, 2012 at 11:57:00 PM
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i do like the idea and where you are taking it. now allow me to make further suggestions.

Instead of collecting the money upfront, make a topic for keeping track of the donaters. when that reaches the proposed number, then everyone can paypal gift a trustworthy member. then that trustworthy member front the money, get the repros made, and then we pay for the repros cost additionally. it might take a year to get the number high enough but its the most approachable solution.

Feb 16, 2012 at 12:25:59 AM
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I'll take a beater Medieval or a beater Stadium Events box/manual =P

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Feb 16, 2012 at 12:32:47 AM
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hahaha got it. will cash in hand suffice?

Feb 16, 2012 at 12:34:47 AM
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Originally posted by: DreamTR

I'll gladly trade this for a Stadium Events box and manual, Medieval Madness Pinball machine, or good hard $$$.
 

found it. answered my own question. you did go on to mention someone was in serious talks of buying within 3 months though. i dont think thats enough time for a fundriaser though./


Edited: 02/16/2012 at 12:35 AM by LucasWeatherby

Feb 16, 2012 at 12:37:58 AM
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Hyopthetically if one was to start a fundraising project what would be the easiest way to do it?
Through Kickstarter? Or a well known forum? Or another medium?
With something like kickstarter people could pledge for the game's release and
have higher pledge options for ROMs / cart copies / CB Copies / CIB copies (providing someone trusted takes the time to design a manual)


Edited: 02/16/2012 at 12:40 AM by Davotron

Feb 16, 2012 at 9:53:49 AM
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Originally posted by: Davotron

Hyopthetically if one was to start a fundraising project what would be the easiest way to do it?
Through Kickstarter? Or a well known forum? Or another medium?
With something like kickstarter people could pledge for the game's release and
have higher pledge options for ROMs / cart copies / CB Copies / CIB copies (providing someone trusted takes the time to design a manual)

I really would advise against a site like Kickstarter (or anything with major publicity) if you're raising funds for a project that is technically illegal.


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Feb 16, 2012 at 10:28:01 AM
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What about starting one on assembler games, like they did with Resident Evil GBC.

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