Fire Emblem Special Edition (Y'know, that special edition that sold out in like a day?) is required for a complete 3DS Licensed set. Yes, that's right. It actually only just dawned on me today after I had read a particular comment. The Special Edition of the new Fire Emblem game is going to indeed be required in order to be able to call your 3DS set "complete".

Why is this? Well, I'll list a few games, and you tell me if you can spot the pattern.

Exertainment Mountain Bike Rally/Speed Racer (Required for a complete Snes set)
Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario World (Required for a complete Snes set)
Scribblenauts Collection (Also a combo cart) (Required for a complete Nintendo DS set)
Castlevania Double Pack (Required for a complete GBA set)
Those 47 other combo carts on the GBA http://nintendoage.com/index.cfm?...;(ALL REQUIRED FOR A COMPLETE GBA SET)

Do you see the pattern now? Good. Then you probably realize by now that because the Fire Emblem Special Edition houses a very interesting bonus (That bonus being a single cartridge that includes all 3 versions of the new fire emblem game, which is normally split among 2 physical cartridges and the eshop), it'll unfortunately be required for a complete 3DS set. Who cares? Full 3DS set collectors care, so be quiet and sit down.

This thread was made mostly as a way to vent, but also to hear the thoughts of all you 3DS collectors that happen to be going for a full set, as well as all you other 3DS collectors. I personally find this to be a rather unique set of circumstances, the likes of which I don't think we've ever seen happen before, so I'm legitimately interested in peoples opinions on this. Even though this Special Edition of Fire Emblem technically qualifies as a unique title required for a complete 3DS set, do you think that it shouldn't be required? Do you agree that it is indeed required for a full set? Or would you personally just classify it as a variant? Let me and everyone else know what you think!
 

How are you going to list a bunch of compilation cartridges that validate your assertion that this particular compilation cartridge is required for a complete set, and then follow it up by saying this is a unique circumstance that hasn't been seen before?

If it's how limited the special edition appears, I wouldn't split hairs about it. Nintendo's MO lately has been to fake supply shortages to increase demand, it's some real bullshit, but I guess it works from a business perspective since no one has called them on it yet. Most likely though, they'll make more of it after the first run to "appease customer demand" and like the Marth Amiibo, you'll wonder how it was ever considered rare.

I could be even more callous and say to not worry about it because Fire Emblem has gone to the dogs, but I won't be that guy.

I voted yes because I already pre-ordered it. Had I not, I'd say no, lol.

You answered your own question. Or rather, it's the fact that this is the first time that I have ever seen a game that's required for a complete set, be released as a special/collector's/limited edition. While we obviously don't know whether or not Nintendo will pump out some more copies of this "special edition" of Fire Emblem, I'm seriously not holding my breath. We all knew that the Amiibos were never going to stay as limited as they were, I mean why would they? The whole point was to sell them as toys to kids with the added benefits of unlocking content in their games. They never labeled them as "limited" or "collector's edition", it was silly for anyone to assume that they would stay in short supply. Something like Majora's Mask 3D Special/collector/limited ultra edition (or w/e) only got a single print run though, iirc, and that was of a game with a very strong following in a well known franchise. It's difficult to say how this will end, but I do find less disappointment in assuming the worst and sometimes receiving the best case scenario.


I don't blame you. Lol


 

Voted Who Cares because I don't go for full sets for any system. Just like to play games!

I am excited for this game and did get in a pre order for the special edition set. I feel bad for the people who had theirs cancelled because of gamestops blunder. Op, did you get a pre order in or are you venting because you didn't or that you just don't want to buy 3 different versions.

I'm not thrilled about purchasing 3 different versions. Purchasing 3 different versions wouldn't be so bad, but my primary gripe is the fact that this is the only way to get the 3rd path choice on a physical cartridge. I don't really like purchasing games digitally on the 3DS or Wii U. Which is weird, because I love purchasing everything PC software related, digitally. The transition is weak with this one.

 

I get you on the comparison to other special editions that came with real physical stuff. I'm pretty salty about not getting that Skull Kid statuette, but I'll live. I don't see it the same way as that or the Ganondorf statuette that came with Wind Waker HD, or most recently the Xenoblade Chronicles X special edition (which hilariously enough seems to be going for less than retail right now). Those special editions came with relatively costly to keep producing physical merch, but those games are still on the shelves. I'm not sure what Fire Emblem's special edition comes with, is it just the all in one cartridge? If that's the case, I wouldn't expect it to be too limited. I can easily envision a scenario where we end up seeing it on shelves after the original run of the two separate versions, as a sort of last hurrah for the title.
  I hear you on not digging digital distribution. They're already (nearly literally) cutting corners on physical releases enough as is, and while I'm guilty of purchasing tons of games through Steam, I just can't justify it on a console. I think it's funny how you state that you're not thrilled about purchasing three different versions, but you're set on completing the 3DS library which would require you to buy Conquest and Birthright, as well as the all in one that has the DLC path, which is still three different versions. Maybe I'm misunderstanding your gripe.

As for your original question, "complete according to whose standards?" is what you have to ask yourself. I'm not the kind of guy who ever wants a complete release set for a console - I want CIBs of every game I know and love, and several that I hate for various reasons, and I'll be happy. If the day ever comes though (which it probably will, I'm not gonna lie), where I want to collect a console's entire library, I'm going to skip out on... there's no short way to describe this: compilation games that compile games already on a system for that same system. Sounds confusing, so I'll provide an example: Super Mario All Stars is fine by me, but Super Mario All Stars + World is pushing it. To each his own, though - you might feel like it's a cop out to live by your own definition of complete.
 

Eh, I'm actually not too concerned about having a complete 3DS set, though I would like to casually aim for it someday. I'm more annoyed by the fact that I need purchase a 1/3rd of this game digitally, in order to experience it fully. I don't have this same issue with the Pokemon games, simply because I don't see Black 2, White 2, Z, Crystal, Emerald etc being released as digital only (I also don't really play Pokemon much anymore, but I digress). Like I said, purchasing 3 versions of this game wouldn't be so bad, if not for the fact that the 3rd version is digital only. That's just a weird marketing choice in general, but I will get over it. Yeah, there are quite a few opinions on what constitutes as a complete set.

You are right though, if I was dead set on a complete 3DS set, it would be weird to complain about having to purchase three different versions in order to complete a set, since I'd have to do that regardless. Lol
  Interestingly enough they released the Skull Kid Statuette as a stand alone to sell on some website, the name of which escapes me. I believe that the special edition of Fire Emblem comes with a 3DS XL carrying pouch and an 80 page art book, which probably aren't too costly to produce, but it's probably doubtful that they'll keep doing so. I suppose that I could see them releasing the combo cart version of the game on its own eventually, but probably not for sometime given the lack of incentive to do so. They're probably a bit happier being able to sell 3 versions of the game to people for more than they would get for the special edition.
 

I'm still not so sure the DLC Revelation episode will actually be on the cart. I bet it'll just give you free access to download the episode when it becomes available

That castlevania double pack is ugly as sin, noone should have that in their collection.

Full set collectors made this bed, and now they get to sleep in it. It should count towards the complete set, because it's different. If people can say Stadium Events is also needed for a full NES set, despite WCTM being essentially the same game aside from a few screens, then this should be no different.

Not bagging on those who like or collect full sets, but that's the name of the game, ya know?

I don't see any reason it shouldn't be counted in a complete set. Bummer for those full set collectors but if that's what you're going for you know collecting that way isnt cheap..

I'm pretty sure it is on the cart, they say it's the only way to play revelation 3 Weeks before it drops in the eshop.

If thats true and its on the cart (not some code that downloads the game), the discussion is kind of over. It would be the only physical release of revelation so ya, it counts. It doesnt matter if it is a combo, thats irrelevant

maybe in the future nintendo will release all three in a standard release (sort of like a pokemon platinum or mario u/luigi u)

I think youre placing too much emphasis on the nintendoage game lists and what others expectations are. Its an endless debate. I can say nwc means jack diddly and someone is going to say yes it counts. Its all about how you let award icons and others dictate your world.

My 3ds list counts only 1 of the versions. Whether i get my award or credentials fulfilled is of no concern.

Gamestop's website says that it's the only way to get all 3 games on one cart:



I have also heard that there's just a code on the cart for the third game that let's you download it from the eshop weeks in advance, so who knows, haha

Edit: Amazon's product page basically says the same thing as Gamestop. So I think all 3 games are actually on one cart.

It seems like every system, no matter how many games or how few games, no matter how popular or unpopular, has at least one game that is super rare or super expensive and makes it damn near impossible to get every single game to make a full set. That is one of the many reasons why I'll never go for a full set of anything and stick to just collecting games I want to play.

What's funny is after we had our conversation in the other thread, I started to get rather mad about the special edition, despite the fact it's essentially the same as playing the eShop version (as far as the game goes.) 

Sigh.

I find it sort of interesting how that always seems to be the case. Infact, the Gameboy Color wasn't really all that bad when it came to going for a complete set, up until someone discovered that ISS '99 GBC game. That was the moment that I realized that finishing a complete boxed GBC set would be hell. I think that the Pico is a rather easy set to complete though.

 

I voted "I can't remember why I'm here" as it's kinda silly at this point to be hand wringing about 3DS rarity and full sets. For all we know, Nintendo might say "Fuck it, we're doing another run of FE:SE!" or a crate full of the games are found in a dusty corner of a warehouse a year from now.

This thread needs to be put in a time capsule and sent to the year 2040.

I'll try to remember to be back here in 24 years. You are correct though, anything could happen at this point.

 

Of course the game counts. There is no reason it wouldn't and there is no point for the thread.

As far as price, its sitting up on eBay the way Devil's Third was and now Devil's Hand is only maybe $15 above retail, a price point that will continue to come down.

Fire Emblem game comes out when, today? All these $275 sales on eBay are for pre-orders. Once the game is actually out, and copies become available that price will drop, without a doubt. And then there will be no reason to have a discussion of why it does or doesn't belong in the set. Clearly, it does.

We don't need to wait until 2040. Just wait until this time next year, or even 6 months. Once this pre-order hype dies down so will prices. It may or may not drop down to the $80 retail price, but this is nothing to be scared about it. And its a game from an in-demand franchise. Its not like some of the low-print run Wii titles that have no real appeal beyond collecting. Copies of this game will, without a doubt, make it to the secondary market. And if you are particularly worried about not being able to get a copy to make your set complete, $300 is not a lot of money.

[EDIT] Above, I wrote "today" seeing that the game came out on the 19th, but not realizing it came out on the 19th of February rather than the 19th of January.

I suppose this thread is in response to the news that several pre-orders made after November 18th are being canceled, correct? I really hope they print more of these. Maybe they'll produce another small run, but sadly I don't think they'll make several hundred thousand more of this special edition, which sucks, because the $300 price tag that this has on ebay right now is ridiculous. There is literally no sealed DS or 3DS game going for that price right now. Heck, there are only a very few number of DS and 3DS systems that are going for that price. I say don't panic yet. Go to your gamestop or bestbuy when they open on February 19th. If you strike out, come back in the morning on the 20th and 21st. After then, if you haven't gotten lucky and gotten someone else's preorder who didn't pick it up within 48 hours, then your only bet might be to bite the bullet, or wait out the storm, as I don't think that price tag will hold for too long.

As for is this required for a full set, I say yes, because technically you are getting a new game on a physical cart, and this is the only way to get it on a physical cart. It's kinda like shovel knight. That was a digital only game, so originally it wasn't needed for a full set, but once it became available in physical format, you needed it for a full set. Fire Emblem Fates Revelation is a digital only game, except for this special edition. While it doesn't have it's own cart, I think that the fact that you can still have it on a physical cart means you do need this special edition if you want a full set.

If this is true I'm glad I pre ordered mine the 17th
 

Right now there is no official word, but there are some leaked memos from gamestop that say that. Here's an article talking about it http://mynintendonews.com/2016/01...

 

There are quite a few pointless threads that get posted on NA, but life goes on.

No, I hadn't heard about this news. That's a real kick to the pants to everyone that ordered it after November 18th. The price actually doesn't concern me, even if it does keep its $300 price tag. That amount of money is nothing compared to the cost of games on many of the other Nintendo consoles. I would of course try to get it for less than the going rate though.