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Nesruler contest presents:Pinball Ends next sunday at 10 PM central

Jul 29, 2009 at 10:20:40 PM
nes_king (63)
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^^ yeah but you didnt! lol

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Jul 29, 2009 at 10:25:59 PM
arch_8ngel (68)
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Originally posted by: nes_king

^^ yeah but you didnt! lol


Didn't I?  If 169k was "half-way through my 1st ball", then i had a helluva a first ball with approx 340k points

I wasn't kidding about the other 3 balls SUCKING really hard...like embarrassing hard

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Edited: 07/29/2009 at 10:26 PM by arch_8ngel

Jul 29, 2009 at 10:30:57 PM
nes_king (63)
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jerk. lol

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Jul 29, 2009 at 10:32:42 PM
arch_8ngel (68)
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Originally posted by: nes_king

jerk. lol


  I was trying to hold out posting, since now everybody knows the score to beat...but it was just too tempting!

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Jul 29, 2009 at 11:44:22 PM
Slash Man (13)
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It's all about Lady Luck, however, I have strategies of my own. ;-)

Jul 30, 2009 at 7:25:42 AM
nes_king (63)
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alot of luck.

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Jul 30, 2009 at 8:30:22 AM
arch_8ngel (68)
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Luck, and the ability to consistently get the ball back to the top half of the table and keep it there for a decent duration.

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Jul 30, 2009 at 2:52:08 PM
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^^ exactly.. i really like when it bounces up and down over and over again through the top 1000 point slot.

side note; i didnt know exactly what to do in the bonus area when i got my high score but after taking a look at the instructions i know i can do much better now...

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Jul 30, 2009 at 3:20:16 PM
arch_8ngel (68)
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Milking the bonus area isn't as easy or useful as you might think. If you somehow manage to drop the maiden while simultaneously juggling the ball for the next bonus, you lose the ball and have to relaunch.

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Jul 30, 2009 at 4:18:42 PM
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wow. nice score. I think yesterday I hit 100k with my first ball, but I only ended up with like 180k or so total.

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Jul 30, 2009 at 4:33:48 PM
arch_8ngel (68)
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Yeah, I was on a roll with that first ball, but my game was interrupted and when I got back to it, I was no longer in the zone.

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Jul 30, 2009 at 9:38:51 PM
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This game sucks. I got 232k with my First ball...



And then the next three just sink to the bottom >.<. Seriously? Ended with 291k



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Jul 30, 2009 at 11:03:19 PM
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Ugh. Well, I just got ~252,000. I kept getting screwed on the top screen. I matched up 3 penguins at least 4 times, and each time I'd just bounce directly out the left chute right away. If I can actually take advantage of pengin time at some point you will all be... not... pleased. With it.

e: can't be bothered to take a picture


Edited: 07/31/2009 at 12:27 AM by OSG

Jul 31, 2009 at 9:18:32 AM
arch_8ngel (68)
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Robbie, that's exactly what happened to me on my big game.

Phil...actually taking advantage of the 2x multiplier would be huge.

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Aug 1, 2009 at 1:29:00 PM
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317,780 with no penguin time

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Aug 1, 2009 at 3:39:43 PM
OSG (28)
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I think I hate this game.

Aug 1, 2009 at 3:43:25 PM
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The princess lady started yelling at me and the game just ended. Silly pinball game. Anyone here buy this game as a kid, I sure didn't. Good call on my part. I did buy 10-Yard Fight though, so I do make mistakes.

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Aug 2, 2009 at 12:36:28 PM
arch_8ngel (68)
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TN - if she was "yelling at" you because you dropped her, the game counts that as a lost ball, so if that happened on your final ball it would end the game.

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Aug 2, 2009 at 3:38:27 PM
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Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

TN - if she was "yelling at" you because you dropped her, the game counts that as a lost ball, so if that happened on your final ball it would end the game.


That is what happeded allright.  And I was sure my next ball would be a 300K one too.  Not that I have scored 100K at all at this game yet.

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Aug 2, 2009 at 9:18:33 PM
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Was bored so I figured I give this game a try, if too late, no big deal, my score doesn't compete anyway, just thought I'd post it since I done it.

Score: 103.110
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Edited: 08/02/2009 at 09:19 PM by Miss Clawful

Aug 2, 2009 at 9:24:59 PM
arch_8ngel (68)
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Whew! Megan, I saw that you had posted, and was worried you had dug up some kind of old record-breaking game of Pinball from your archives I seriously expected to see something nearing a million

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Aug 4, 2009 at 6:38:32 AM
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No, lucky you, I suck at Pinball.

I gave up after playing for an hour and a half, 17 games, I wasn't getting any better, one moment I do pretty good, the next game after really pathetically, back and forth, my scores drastically fluctuate from one game to the next.

01st try: Score 34.750
02nd try: Score 9.910
03rd try: Score 9.560
04th try: Score 28.980
05th try: Score 57.700
06th try: Score 71.590
07th try: Score 10.430
08th try: Score 103.110
09th try: Score 25.020
10th try: Score 33.040
11th try: Score 34.920
12th try: Score 41.750
13th try: Score 83.900
14th try: Score 25.730
15th try: Score 65.360
16th try: Score 79.480
17th try: Score 38.100

Now Rollerball, that one I managed to get up there in the high 2 mil, but then perhaps the point system is more too, I don't recall, but I actually enjoy that game regardless, plays a lot smoother than Nintendo's Pinball. Still, admittedly, I'm no pinball player, these are just not my kind of game.

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Aug 4, 2009 at 9:01:33 AM
arch_8ngel (68)
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Pinball is really a love-it-or-hate-it kind of game. I happen to be pretty decent at the real deal, so had a bit of a head start on figuring out how to manipulate the table (despite how crude a simulation this game actually is).

The interesting thing about the NES Pinball game is that it doesn't seem like moves are 100% repeatable. There is some kind of random element, but I can't quite figure out how it works. For example, hitting the upper left ramp on the top table, or hitting the upper right exit on the lower table...I know EXACTLY where the ball needs to be on the flipper for both shots, but they only work 50 - 60% of the time. I suppose it's possible that the other 40-50% of the time I was missing the shot by one or two pixels, but I'm skeptical that was the issue.

This is definitely a game that it would be interesting to see the decompiled source code, in order to understand how the game was actually implemented.

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Aug 4, 2009 at 1:08:40 PM
Lincoln (138)
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I think the ball control problems stem from the ball bouncing lightly rather than rolling down the flippers. It's hard to strike the ball consistently when it's altarnately moving towards the flipper or away from it.

I also hate how light the ball seems-it just floats around the table without any weight. The lower table layout is pretty brutal too with that bumper in the lane right above the flippers.

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Aug 4, 2009 at 2:15:16 PM
arch_8ngel (68)
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Game-B uses a heavier ball, supposedly, but we chose to play with default settings.

You're probably right about the minor bouncing. If it ends up being a combination of position and uncontrollable differences in incoming incidence angle of the ball, then getting consistent precision shots every time is almost impossible.

It would seem like they basically completely failed to model rolling.

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