Originally posted by: beardcore84

Ah, ok. That makes sense. I guess it depends on how seriously you take the badges on this website.

Originally posted by: the_wizard_666

I love all the mentions of Sachen, but it's only one example. Quick poll - what is the rarest US NES release? We'll exclude Sachen releases to keep it civil, but I'm pretty sure that only removes Huge Insect from this question anyway. Oh, and guess what, it IS NOT STADIUM EVENTS!!! That's right, humble old Myriad 6-in-1 is the absolute pinnacle of rarity on the NES as far as US releases go. And yet it sells for a fraction of the price of Stadium Events because people decide to exclude unlicensed games for one reason or another. THAT is one of the key points Dave's trying to make in the OP. I'm okay with people going for what makes them happy. I'm okay with them excluding things that they don't want or can't justify the expense of. I'm NOT okay with people saying they have a full set when they don't. Saying you have a full set, even with qualifiers, is saying that you've got everything there is to get. That is NOT the case. Saying you have a full set should mean literally that - that you have a fully complete set of everything you can get. When you add qualifiers to the mix, you're basically just saying "I have everything I want to pursue." So say that! Don't start telling people you have a full set when it's obvious to anyone that you don't. Set your collecting goals and achieve them, just don't try to bullshit your way into making it sound like a bigger deal than it truly is.
 

Originally posted by: shortstop444

It can get really technical. As an example does a CIB set mean the carts have to match the box etc.?  
The variables are endless. 

Originally posted by: DarkKobold

Life or death man. Life. Or. Death.

 

Originally posted by: DarkKobold

Myriad 6-in-1 is a sticker on top of a somewhat rare cart. I can't see it as anything other than a variant.
 

Originally posted by: the_wizard_666

 I'm NOT okay with people saying they have a full set when they don't. Saying you have a full set, even with qualifiers, is saying that you've got everything there is to get. That is NOT the case. Saying you have a full set should mean literally that - that you have a fully complete set of everything you can get. When you add qualifiers to the mix, you're basically just saying "I have everything I want to pursue." So say that! Don't start telling people you have a full set when it's obvious to anyone that you don't. Set your collecting goals and achieve them, just don't try to bullshit your way into making it sound like a bigger deal than it truly is.

Originally posted by: Tulpa
  What defines a full set? Anything that works in an NES? No one can ever have that full set.

Originally posted by: the_wizard_666
  Yes, that's what defines a full set.  And yes, it's virtually impossible.  Nobody will ever have that set, just like nobody will ever have a complete Atari set.  The entire term "full set" with regard to collecting should really never be used.  You can have everything you're actively pursuing.  You can have everything for a given subset, but you will NEVER own it all.  I mentioned it in terms of comic collecting earlier - you can have a full run of a comic, you can have every appearance of a character, but it's impossible to have all the comics, so a "full set" or "complete set" (whatever terminology is preferred) is entirely unattainable.  It doesn't mean you shouldn't try for it, or set limits for yourself, but you can't say you have everything when you truly don't.

Originally posted by: bunnyboy
  Those do not exist.  Nobody has anywhere near the actual full set of every NES cart, and nobody ever will because there are too many one off carts.  Everyone who says full set means their own limited version of full.

Originally posted by: Tulpa
  Well, there are defined sets within the full set, and that's primarily of interest to collectors to create their goals.

A "full licensed North American set" is obtainable. As is a "full licensed PAL region set (A or B or both.)" The "unlicensed set" has some debate (primarily regarding the Sachens), and you have the test carts, protos, and competition carts, but most collectors do have a definite set in mind when they collect.

A "full set" is an academic exercise, IMO, since it is impossible. For the lesser "full" sets, it becomes an argument in semantics. To list all the qualifiers is often a mouthful, so people use shorthand.

IMO, Bunnyboy put it best.
 

Originally posted by: the_wizard_666
 
That's the reason I started documenting the contents of sealed games when they'd be opened.  That way we'd know which items belonged with which games  
 

Originally posted by: shortstop444

But does that mean if the C, I, B doesn't match does that make it CIB and/or count for a "set"
Like I said it can get really technical
This question also applies to the SNES "set" where you also have to contend with the Made In Japan, Made In Mexico, Million Seller and/or Majesco variants.
Then there's the Playstation games with the Greatest Hits versions.
Just several more examples of what in the Video Game world the word "set" actually defines.

Originally posted by: Bert
 


there's also certain dust covers that go with certain dates, certain baggies and certain styrofoam blocks. With SNES there's games that did come with dust covers, games that didn't, also 2 different styles of cardboard tray. You're insane at that point.

Originally posted by: guillavoie

Haha, somebody is removing manually all fake Bert's awards right now. Back to Jive Turkey only mode.

Originally posted by: DefaultGen


For posterity: http://imgur.com/9B04vi0
 

Originally posted by: the_wizard_666
 
Hypocrite!  #AllGamesMatter

Originally posted by: Vectrex28
 
Would that mean Myriad and Caltron are white supremacists?