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Aug 27, 2013 at 7:35:09 PM
Vandy (45)
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Now I may be the only one here who feels this way and if so, that's ok, but I find it very obnoxious reading posts similar to the following:
(Fictional quotes relating to real threads)

"Hey guys, I scored a great deal witha BIN on eBay for 5 SNES games! As soon as they arrive, they will all be for sale on my For Sale thread!"

Like, why bother even doing this? At this point, you have become a reseller. Why not let some collector scoop that BIN instead? Worse still, is the following:

"Hey everyone, I just picked up a copy of Soul Blazer CIB for $50! I only needed the box and manual so the cart is now on my For Sale thread!"

And that's all well and good. But then, you go to the thread in question and the poster has listed the cart for $100!

Come on.

I understand making money, but as a collector, I appreciate when other collectors pass their savings along to the next one. For example, if I score a great deal on something and sell a portion of it, I will sell that at a great deal for the lucky collector that comes along next. I don't inflate the price 4 times.

Sure, the main argument will be "well if they can, then more power to them" or "why not make as much money as you can", but to me that's just a dick move and it cripples the "little guy" collector. This hobby is infested enough with resellers, scam artists and crooks, why perpetuate the problem? Personally, I get a lot more joy out of giving a genuine collector a GREAT deal than I do making a few extra bucks on a sale.

Again, this might just be me, but I wanted to vent a bit.

Thanks for your time.

Aug 27, 2013 at 7:39:31 PM
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You used the exact same phrase that popper into my head! "Pass along the savings". Its a great feeling btw.

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Aug 27, 2013 at 7:45:34 PM
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Originally posted by: RegularGuyGamer

You used the exact same phrase that popper into my head! "Pass along the savings". Its a great feeling btw.



Isn't it?

Just the other day I sold a copy of Mega Man X3 locally to this 18 year old who has just gotten into collecting but doesn't have a lot of money to toss around. I originally got this cart for $50. On my ad, I listed it for the going rate and encouraged offers. This guy contacts me and he's super nice, offers me something fair and we talk a little bit over the course of a few days and he agrees to buy the game from me. When he showed up to get the game, I knocked an extra $40 off the price. You should have seen the look on his face. As he walked away I even heard him say "YES" like a dork. But it was so satisfying. I mean, sure, I could have made an extra $40 from the sale, but this was so worth it and now he's going to have a story to tell his friends/other collectors.

Aug 27, 2013 at 7:48:05 PM
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I know that feeling. When I sell something, I always tell the person how much I paid for the item and I dont ask for more than I paid (other than shipping).

Aug 27, 2013 at 7:58:47 PM
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Yeah I saw earthbound and hagane at the goodwill today for $5 but I didnt buy them because I already have them and figured another collector would like to have them.

Aug 27, 2013 at 8:12:06 PM
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While I agree with you on principle, one could argue if they're the little guy too (financially I'm stuck as one) the more they can get the more they can get more goodies that on any other day is entirely out of their reach.

I fall in the middle and I'm fine admitting it. I'll try and get the lower half of the selling(paid) average off ebay both on there and even here now since prices have shot up thanks to resellers and the rest to ebay or over levels. I don't try and maximize but I have such a comedically shitty budget for old games and related merchandise I can't just buy something, be bored of it and sell it to break even or at a loss as it does me no good especially online with fees. I just can't see being nice at a steep enough loss especially online, too many resellers have stuff for auto BIN/BID that I can't be sure someone who would actually keep and use the game would get it and selling a one off stupid low isn't going to change reality and make it better for everyone else either. I won't contribute to the raising of the values, but I won't sell much under the usual lower going rate either. I'd rather someone save 10-15% and keep it than go low enough to entice flippers.

Aug 27, 2013 at 8:13:45 PM
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Originally posted by: Aphex21

Yeah I saw earthbound and hagane at the goodwill today for $5 but I didnt buy them because I already have them and figured another collector would like to have them.


I think you missed the point. I'm not suggesting you simply pass on a great deal that comes along. I'm suggesting you pass on the good fortune to others.

For example, if there was a situation where you find a rare game in the wild for $10 and you already own it, why not find a deserving collector and sell it to them for $50 instead of $400?


Edited: 08/27/2013 at 08:14 PM by Vandy

Aug 27, 2013 at 8:19:10 PM
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I know what you mean, especially when it's a Finders Keepers or Yard Sale person who mentions how their $5 bundle is going straight to ebay for a gazillion dollars. There's really no point in announcing it outside of drumming up artificial excitement (I'm listing for the high end of retail, WOOOOO!!! Better get these before they're gone).

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Aug 27, 2013 at 8:22:33 PM
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Originally posted by: Indigo_Streetlight

I know what you mean, especially when it's a Finders Keepers or Yard Sale person who mentions how their $5 bundle is going straight to ebay for a gazillion dollars. There's really no point in announcing it outside of drumming up artificial excitement (I'm listing for the high end of retail, WOOOOO!!! Better get these before they're gone).



That is pretty much exactly what I mean by one of the examples.

Aug 27, 2013 at 8:27:11 PM
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Ok, while I do agree with you OP, look at it this way.

I spend the majority of my weekends and free time looking for games, if you check out my FK you will see the godly stuff I find, and it has allowed me to build up a huge collection in less than a year.

In building that collection I have spend at least $1.5k of my hard earned money, plus countless hours of my time which I value more than money, and need to make some of that back so I will sell/trade stuff and sometimes I put stuff in my FK then in my FO/FT/FS right away(I try to give good prices on most stuff though.

So while I do agree with not charging outrageous prices on stuff that you have extra I do agree with selling it for near it's value since that is actively what people pay for it.

Just my $.02.

Aug 27, 2013 at 8:28:17 PM
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Originally posted by: Aphex21

Yeah I saw earthbound and hagane at the goodwill today for $5 but I didnt buy them because I already have them and figured another collector would like to have them.
First you're lying.
Second, if you're not lying go back and buy that Hagane and I'll pay you for it since I need one!!!


YOU NEVER PASS ON SHIT LIKE THAT!!! WORSE CASE YOU CAN SELL/TRADE IT ON HERE FOR LESS TO COLLECTORS!!!



Aug 27, 2013 at 8:32:07 PM
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I have no problem with someone reselling something at fair value to get some profit. That's how you grow your collection on a budget.

But some things do bother me.

1) The "Interest Check" threads, or selling something before you get it. I think this should be against the rules on NA personally. I don't want to hear about you selling an Earthbound card that is going to be here next week. Let it arrive in hand, take some pictures and document the condition before cluttering the forums.

2) "Finders Keepers" when it is really "Reseller Flips". So you found a lot of 100 games for $50, awesome. Don't tell me it's going to all be for sale and that you're fielding offers. And then some of these people get offended when they get "lowballed" on their items. If you tell other collectors that you got stuff for cheap and then mark it up at eBay prices, what else do you expect?

I have no problems with you making a profit, just don't rub it in my face of fellow colletors. Leave the price out of it if it's a great find.

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Aug 27, 2013 at 8:33:07 PM
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Originally posted by: Vandy

Originally posted by: Aphex21

Yeah I saw earthbound and hagane at the goodwill today for $5 but I didnt buy them because I already have them and figured another collector would like to have them.


I think you missed the point. I'm not suggesting you simply pass on a great deal that comes along. I'm suggesting you pass on the good fortune to others.

For example, if there was a situation where you find a rare game in the wild for $10 and you already own it, why not find a deserving collector and sell it to them for $50 instead of $400?
I don't think anybody is obiligated to run a charity with how difficult it is to find some of these games; however there is the matter of doing business in a quiet, professional, and serious way. If the market value is $400, why not sell for $350? That's still cutting the other party a break. Heck, even American Pickers would pay $200 for an equivilent item with the claim that it's going to a good home and they're only making a fractional profit. We can see with these examples that it's not just a matter of good fortune being passed along, but how much good fortune an individual thinks they should be getting

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Would celebrate her birthday
“I’ve come a long way,” said the Captain,
“From Lost Christabel this night.
Accompanied by my dog familiar,
To blast your rafters with my surprise.
Granddaughter, It’s a foreign mirror
Taken from the jungle by crime!”


~ Blue Oyster Cult - Magna of Illusion


Edited: 08/27/2013 at 08:33 PM by Indigo_Streetlight

Aug 27, 2013 at 8:38:05 PM
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Oh, another one of these threads!

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Aug 27, 2013 at 8:43:05 PM
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LOL@ Finders Keepers as Resllers Flip!

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Edited: 08/27/2013 at 08:47 PM by ZombieGuyGeezus

Aug 27, 2013 at 8:45:31 PM
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Originally posted by: Indigo_Streetlight

I don't think anybody is obiligated to run a charity with how difficult it is to find some of these games; however there is the matter of doing business in a quiet, professional, and serious way. If the market value is $400, why not sell for $350? That's still cutting the other party a break. Heck, even American Pickers would pay $200 for an equivilent item with the claim that it's going to a good home and they're only making a fractional profit. We can see with these examples that it's not just a matter of good fortune being passed along, but how much good fortune an individual thinks they should be getting
This right here is something I can completely agree with. It would be up to you how much of a deal you want to cut another collector on an item. If you purchase something for $10 and the going sale price is $100, it's your call whether you want to sell it to a collector for $20 or $80. But to inflate it to $120 is just ridiculous. That's all I'm really getting at.


Originally posted by: RegularGuyGamer

I dont think the OP is saying this is his life creed, but rather that sometimes he (and others) treat people as he (or they) would want to be treated.

^ This.



Edited: 08/27/2013 at 08:46 PM by Vandy

Aug 27, 2013 at 8:50:24 PM
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The problem with your idea is what makes another person a "collector". You can list your great find for an equally great deal in your FS thread, but how do you know what that buyer is going to do with it? If he is just going to turn around and throw it on ebay for market value then whats the point in you selling it low. How long do they have to hold onto it before it's no longer flipping?

That idea is great, and works with cutting deals to friends you have made. It's pretty pointless to just list items in a FS thread for way under value, even if your motive is good people will just jump on it to resell themselves.

Aug 27, 2013 at 8:55:00 PM
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Originally posted by: B.A.

The problem with your idea is what makes another person a "collector". You can list your great find for an equally great deal in your FS thread, but how do you know what that buyer is going to do with it? If he is just going to turn around and throw it on ebay for market value then whats the point in you selling it low. How long do they have to hold onto it before it's no longer flipping?

That idea is great, and works with cutting deals to friends you have made. It's pretty pointless to just list items in a FS thread for way under value, even if your motive is good people will just jump on it to resell themselves.


I agree. I certainly don't have a solution aside from getting to know the person you're selling it to or accepting the fact that some day they may turn around and sell it. I think for me one big issue is what Jonebone posted above:
People posting "Finders Keepers" threads where it is really "Reseller Flips". It's just nonsense.

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind about this subject, just offering my opinions and welcoming others to do the same.

Aug 27, 2013 at 9:00:49 PM
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Originally posted by: jonebone

I have no problem with someone reselling something at fair value to get some profit. That's how you grow your collection on a budget.

But some things do bother me.

1) The "Interest Check" threads, or selling something before you get it. I think this should be against the rules on NA personally. I don't want to hear about you selling an Earthbound card that is going to be here next week. Let it arrive in hand, take some pictures and document the condition before cluttering the forums.

2) "Finders Keepers" when it is really "Reseller Flips". So you found a lot of 100 games for $50, awesome. Don't tell me it's going to all be for sale and that you're fielding offers. And then some of these people get offended when they get "lowballed" on their items. If you tell other collectors that you got stuff for cheap and then mark it up at eBay prices, what else do you expect?

I have no problems with you making a profit, just don't rub it in my face of fellow colletors. Leave the price out of it if it's a great find.
Lol At #2. I think I may be guilty of doing that a few times, but most of the time I let NA get first dibs then onto CL or to a friend if I get extra stuff, but I honestly don't like reselling uless I need the money for more games lmao. I just yesterday let 8 SNES and N64s with hookups go for like $20 each because I had just been sitting on them, and I still have better conditioned ones as spares for myself lmao.



Aug 27, 2013 at 9:04:27 PM
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Originally posted by: Vandy

Originally posted by: RegularGuyGamer

You used the exact same phrase that popper into my head! "Pass along the savings". Its a great feeling btw.
Isn't it?

Just the other day I sold a copy of Mega Man X3 locally to this 18 year old who has just gotten into collecting but doesn't have a lot of money to toss around. I originally got this cart for $50. On my ad, I listed it for the going rate and encouraged offers. This guy contacts me and he's super nice, offers me something fair and we talk a little bit over the course of a few days and he agrees to buy the game from me. When he showed up to get the game, I knocked an extra $40 off the price. You should have seen the look on his face. As he walked away I even heard him say "YES" like a dork. But it was so satisfying. I mean, sure, I could have made an extra $40 from the sale, but this was so worth it and now he's going to have a story to tell his friends/other collectors.
Awesome act of kindness!  There should be more people like you in this hobby....or to most people...this business.



Aug 27, 2013 at 9:17:25 PM
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umm game collecting is expensive people resell to fun there collection nothing wrong with that

Aug 27, 2013 at 9:22:50 PM
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I don't have a problem with people reselling stuff, but they should just post it in their forsale thread.. The kindof threads you are talking about are just abusing the forum to get advertising to people who don't normally check the for sale threads and because it will be less busy.. It's your basic "cut in line" mentality imho.

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All resellers are dirty, stinky apes!

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Aug 27, 2013 at 10:07:26 PM
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I've noticed that "collectors" jack up the price worse than "resellers" - whenever I go to a video game convention, about 80% of the sellers want 20% above ebay prices, 15% of the sellers are right at ebay prices, and 5% are below ebay prices. I've looked at a lot of the for sale threads on here and almost all the prices are just ridiculous, why would I buy something on here for MORE than I would pay on ebay?!

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Aug 27, 2013 at 10:08:20 PM
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Originally posted by: fdisk

umm game collecting is expensive people resell to fun there collection nothing wrong with that





OP's story was about him reselling a game..

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