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Hall Of Shame Removal Information Here.

Sep 23, 2016 at 7:32:13 PM
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Originally posted by: Jerbilly

Only because I'm sure it will happen sooner than later, will there be any rule on people starting threads to call out other members or bad transactions? I can imagine people getting bitter and then that sort of thing ensuing.


Yes. Things like that will be watched closely and feedback should take care of it. 

For example:
I sell Jerbilly a copy of madden 98 for 89.95 for ps2 because that is his favorite game. Plus, its the rare disc only version, so he is getting a steal. 

He pays right away, but I am spotty on communication, and take 2 weeks to ship. 

He would leave me a bad feedback.

If I decided to leave him a retalitory bad feedback, he could pm a mod and say "look I have evidence I paid quickly, yet Corey gave me a bad feedback" and it would be dealt with on a case per case basis. 

Now if Jerbilly sent me a threatening message 2 days after He paid, demanding that he gets the game in 8 minutes or hes going to give me a knuckle sammich, then Bad feedback I give him for being a meanie would be justified. 

Both parties get a neg and move on. 

Repeat offenders/ people with a lot of negatives will be dealt with. 

If he or I made a thread about how both of us got our painties in a twist, the threads would be dealt with and we would probably both be contacted by a mod. 

Dont forget the goal here is to have a good time, talk about game stuff/ collecting and help each each other out. The fact that NA allows us to buy and sell expensive items (with ZERO cut don't forget) is an awesome privelege , not a right. 

NA staff is going to make it as easy and safe as possible. 


Edited: 09/23/2016 at 07:40 PM by MrWunderful

Sep 23, 2016 at 7:33:59 PM
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What about situations outside of a transaction? For example, the price change on the Dino Peak sale after an offer came in.

Sep 23, 2016 at 7:39:25 PM
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Originally posted by: Duke.Togo

What about situations outside of a transaction? For example, the price change on the Dino Peak sale after an offer came in.


Until a transaction is in effect, a seller can decide to change the price to whatever they want. Some might find it douchey, but it is their right. After a price has been agreed upon is a different story. Im sure word will get around if someone does that often. 


Edited: 09/23/2016 at 07:40 PM by MrWunderful

Sep 23, 2016 at 7:42:59 PM
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Most excellent, thank you for the detailed response. Good to know you cats have this sort of thing covered.

Sep 23, 2016 at 8:56:53 PM
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Originally posted by: Duke.Togo

What about situations outside of a transaction? For example, the price change on the Dino Peak sale after an offer came in.

Case by case I guess, but for the most part, get a transaction. If there's no transaction, we likely won't be able to do anything for you. 

Sep 23, 2016 at 9:04:35 PM
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Originally posted by: mattbep

Originally posted by: Duke.Togo

What about situations outside of a transaction? For example, the price change on the Dino Peak sale after an offer came in.

Case by case I guess, but for the most part, get a transaction. If there's no transaction, we likely won't be able to do anything for you. 





This, and now more than ever don't go the gift payment route.

Sep 23, 2016 at 9:15:41 PM
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I enjoyed the hall of shame for entertainment value .... always a good read

Sep 23, 2016 at 10:12:31 PM
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Originally posted by: TWarwick07

I enjoyed the hall of shame for entertainment value .... always a good read

Not gonna lie. I enjoyed reading it too. Especially when someone pulled off some impressive detective work.

That being said, if it truly helps NA run smoother as the mods can work on other things, then it's definitely for the best.
 

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Sep 24, 2016 at 1:09:08 AM
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Originally posted by: TWarwick07

I enjoyed the hall of shame for entertainment value .... always a good read
With you on that one.

 

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Mega Man 3   6/25/18   01:13:32   Mega Man 4   6/02/18   01:23:13   Mega Man 5   6/17/18   01:01:09
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Sep 24, 2016 at 5:09:01 AM
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I suppose now that the Nolans will have to have their own TV show.

Sep 24, 2016 at 9:32:38 AM
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Is there still a list archived of the bad sellers/buyers on ebay list? I suppose I understand the reason for the change but if someone still has that list that would be fantastic. Never had a chance to save it myself.

Sep 24, 2016 at 11:34:53 AM
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Originally posted by: captmorgandrinker
 
Originally posted by: TDIRunner

So the Hall of Shame Master just gets laid off? I hope he gets some type of severance package.
We're taking him out on a boat ride later on a deserted lake.

 
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Sep 24, 2016 at 11:54:34 AM
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What if someone changes a bid in auction? Will they just get banned since it is against the rules, or get warned in a pm?

Sep 24, 2016 at 11:59:36 AM
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Originally posted by: lb1993

What if someone changes a bid in auction? Will they just get banned since it is against the rules, or get warned in a pm?

If we see an edit, we hold the bidder to their original bid (unless it's some kind of obvious typo, in which case they should get a hold of us before editing anyway).    If they don't honor their original bid, they will face the same consequences as a non-paying bidder.
 

Sep 24, 2016 at 12:08:05 PM
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Just wanted to add that if anyone wants to see who's in the hos (from NA dealings) or banned the lists are still in the directory.

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Oct 6, 2016 at 1:45:37 PM
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NA should do a poll and see what the people want. I'd bet the majority would vote to bring the hall of shame back. Feedback really doesn't help people or warn anyone about potential issues. Mods should have known it's part of the job and be willing to take that on as part of the responsibilities that come with being a mod. If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. Overall things stay pretty civil and smooth around here, so if they have to step up and do a little investigating for the hall of shame, so be it. Another option would be to have a designated person for the hall of shame who doesn't have to worry about any othe mod duties. That way they surely wouldn't be overworked. Does anybody actually look at feedback?

Oct 6, 2016 at 1:47:28 PM
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Originally posted by: TheToxicCollector

Feedback really doesn't help people or warn anyone about potential issues.

Does anybody actually look at feedback?

It does. And I do.
 

Oct 6, 2016 at 1:50:27 PM
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While that's true the majority would vote to bring back the HoS, who's going to run it? A Single person, been done before lasted a while but not forever. The Mods, originally this wasn't part of the job so saying it's part of the job isn't true. The amount of strain and stress on the moderators to keep up with and run the HoS is overwhelming, so it's not simply a case of what the users want, it's what can be done with the resources available on/to NintendoAge.

You say who looks at feedback? Everyone I know of when doing any buying, selling or trading. if you aren't looking at feedback, who's fault is it if you get burned? YOURS and yours alone.......

Oct 6, 2016 at 1:50:53 PM
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There is a lot of feedback out there that isn't necessarily accurate though. A lot of times if I have an unpleasant transaction I just don't leave feedback simply because of retaliatory feedback like others have mentioned.

Edit: I've never been burned here but I have had some transactions with people who have lots of positive feedback that I have been pretty unhappy with. 


Edited: 10/06/2016 at 01:52 PM by TheToxicCollector

Oct 6, 2016 at 1:55:27 PM
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As a new user with no feedback, I'm worried that people will be hesitant to make deals with me. So that is one way in which I feel the feedback system is negative to myself or other people new to the boards. But if the feedback is in place, how does it differ from the Hall of Shame? I saw someone mention that they were worried about being appropriately negative when it called for it in fear of negative feedback on themselves. Could that still not work the same way with the Hall of Shame? Someone can say negative things about your transaction through either format. I know I'm new and someone can call me out on being unaware of how this was helpful, but from what little I know, it seems redundant? We can always search through a users feedback to see if they are good to make deals with? Not criticizing, just wondering.

Oct 6, 2016 at 2:00:27 PM
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Originally posted by: Loxx O)))

As a new user with no feedback, I'm worried that people will be hesitant to make deals with me. So that is one way in which I feel the feedback system is negative to myself or other people new to the boards. But if the feedback is in place, how does it differ from the Hall of Shame? I saw someone mention that they were worried about being appropriately negative when it called for it in fear of negative feedback on themselves. Could that still not work the same way with the Hall of Shame? Someone can say negative things about your transaction through either format. I know I'm new and someone can call me out on being unaware of how this was helpful, but from what little I know, it seems redundant? We can always search through a users feedback to see if they are good to make deals with? Not criticizing, just wondering.





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Oct 6, 2016 at 2:02:38 PM
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retaliatory feedback is something that someone can message a mod over.

You have a bad transaction, you should feel obligated to leave feedback accordingly.

you say potato I say potatoe.

What's done is done... I'm sure this wasn't something was that a quick move by the mods/admins/Evil Overlord but something that was discussed at length.

Oct 6, 2016 at 2:21:39 PM
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Can we get a Hall of Heroes (Valhalla) thread instead?

Oct 6, 2016 at 2:27:40 PM
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Originally posted by: TheToxicCollector

NA should do a poll and see what the people want. I'd bet the majority would vote to bring the hall of shame back.

That's great and all, but NA isn't a democracy.   It has a single owner, and it is ultimately up to him whether something stays or goes, or is implemented in the future.

As for:
Originally posted by: TheToxicCollector

If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. 

If you don't like the way this completely free site is run, feel free to leave.

 


Edited: 10/06/2016 at 02:30 PM by captmorgandrinker

Oct 6, 2016 at 3:01:26 PM
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Originally posted by: TheToxicCollector

There is a lot of feedback out there that isn't necessarily accurate though. A lot of times if I have an unpleasant transaction I just don't leave feedback simply because of retaliatory feedback like others have mentioned.

Edit: I've never been burned here but I have had some transactions with people who have lots of positive feedback that I have been pretty unhappy with. 

I can see your point there, and I agree. The issue of inaccurate feedback/fear of retaliatory feedback is one that I hope a revamp of the feedback system will address.