Originally posted by: guillavoie

Ahhh, nice, so does 2000k per extra lives sounds good?

Originally posted by: guillavoie

Also, the challenge of losing less lives put a nice twist to the contest, cause it seriously takes more skills to beat it in one 1 life vs 10 lives, while the score don't reflect that.

Originally posted by: Vectrex280996

I tried to play this a few days ago and man do I suck at this!

Originally posted by: Vectrex280996

I tried to play this a few days ago and man do I suck at this!

Originally posted by: arnpoly


I am right there with you!

After about 5 attempts, I got to the Stage 2 boss and was thoroughly thrashed.

I wasn't planning on spending a whole lot of time this week on the game but now I'm rethinking that.

Also, the jump kick move is unnecessarily difficult to pull off for some reason.  And I don't find it to be all that useful anyway.

And screw the motorcycle guys!
 

Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

The ONLY thing the jump kick is good for, IMO, is avoiding being shot by boss 2 and boss 4, avoiding the motorcycle guys, and dodging exploding grenades.

I never use to offensively, but it does put you "out of plane" for bullets and explosion effects.



"The trick" with Boss 2 (and subsequent appearances of the shotgun guy -- he reappears in Level 4 bonus rooms and has the second-to-last boss in Level 6) is to jump kick your way to him and then either punch him repeatedly (if you have brass knuckles) or kick him until he isn't stunned anymore.

If you are really careful toward the end of Level 2 you can save a combat knife to throw at him and take about half of his health. (same applies at the end of Level 3 and Level 4 -- weakening the sumo boss in level 3 is crucial, IMO)



For regular level progression -- don't underestimate the value of the armor and the power of the brass knuckles.  I punch my way through most of the game once I have the knuckles, and you are unstoppable (armor makes you immune to thrown knives and bullets)

Originally posted by: arnpoly

I also figured out that if you can keep the gun to the Level 1 boss, you can take it down extremely quick. 

Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

I usually have my gun by the Level 1 boss, but I just shoot the first wave or two of knife guys and then punch the other guys to get grenades.

You were able to actually damage the boss with the gun?

 

Originally posted by: arnpoly

Yeah, if you stand on the top row and wait for the copter to move down a little you can blast it with the gun.  Two shots does the trick!
 

Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

Ha, no kidding.

I usually just hit it with 5 grenades, or whatever it is that it takes.

There isn't much reason to be hit by the guys on that boss, since they are easy to punch-stun with the brass knuckles.

The Level 5 boss is way worse, since it randomly lobs grenades of its own which can be a pain to avoid.
It takes more grenades to kill, as well. (and no preceding level, so no chance for a gun or anything like that)

 

Originally posted by: arnpoly

Grenades in this game are awful by the way!

 

Originally posted by: Balloon_Kid

This game is wrecking me hardcore. The combat isn't the issue either, it's guys like the grenade tosser halfway through Stage 3 taking multiple lives from me because for some reason SNK had to make dying to explosives realistic. Also, what's the deal with getting knocked down with a gun in your hands and losing your powerups? I know you lose them when you die, but that shouldn't happen when you get knocked down with a gun in your hand...

I also find myself dying to bikers due to miss timed kicks. They're worth a good amount of points but the risk/reward payoff doesn't seem like it's worth it

Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

I am surprised you are having such a hard time with the jumping.

It is just like Double Dragon or Bayou Billy, and in fact I think the controls are tighter than either of those two.

If you have armor you don't need to jump at all.
Just charge him, punch him once on the way, and stay in motion to avoid the blasts.

Originally posted by: arnpoly


I disagree completely.  For me it is the exact opposite.  I can jump kick in Double Dragon and Bayou Billy nearly every time.  I can do the jump slash in TMNT 2 almost every time.  In P.O.W. it's about half the time, maybe even less.  I would guess the timing and/or buffering of key presses is a tiny bit different and I can't adjust.  Now I do better if I point my thumb at 9 o'clock and hit both buttons ... but I shouldn't have to twist my thumb every time I want to do the move.

I suppose it's this combination of factors that makes this game not that fun to play for me right now.  It's the "quirkyness" of the jump, the seemingly larger hitbox for the one-hit-kill grenades, the near-instant respawn and death to aforementioned grenades, and having to regrind Level 2 each time just to practice the boss.
 

Originally posted by: arnpoly

Alright man I'll give it a shot after work and I'll let you know how it goes!

I am probably exaggerating since I'm frustrated with this game, but I do think the hitboxes are a little wonky. The best contrast is in the item pickups. I can be standing right on top of it and not pick it up. But if one pixel of the grenade explosion touches your guy, you're toast.

Originally posted by: Caleb47

Stage 4 101,800. Man, that 3rd level perched bomb guy got 2 lives out of me. I tried to run through, got hit by a bomb, and right before I could respawn, hit by another bomb. Got pretty far stage 4 (past the laser guys) but died on a stupid bomb guy again. Use to play this one in the arcade alot too and liked it but man, those bomb guys...